Apr 28, 2026 City Council Regular

[1. CALL TO ORDER 5:30 P.M. Executive Board Room]

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORRY FOR THE DELAYS. WE'LL GO AND START THIS MEETING. ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. STRONG. CARNAHAN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BURKE HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

PETE HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM CHANG HERE. AND MAYOR MEDRANO PRESENT. ALL PRESENT. GREAT. AT THIS TIME, WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND INVITE PASTOR NADER HANNA FROM KING OF THE CHURCH TO DO THE INVOCATION. IF EVERYONE CAN, PLEASE STAND. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY AS THE SOVEREIGN LORD OF ALL NATIONS AND THE GIVER OF EVERY GOOD GIFT. YOU ARE THE SOURCE OF WISDOM, JUSTICE, AND PEACE, AND WE HUMBLY ACKNOWLEDGE OUR NEED FOR YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY OF CYPRUS, FOR ITS HISTORY, ITS PEOPLE, AND ITS FUTURE. AS THIS COMMUNITY MARKS 70 YEARS, WE GIVE YOU PRAISE FOR THE FAITHFULNESS ACROSS GENERATIONS, FOR THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE BUILT THIS CITY, AND FOR THE LEADERS WHO HAVE SERVED IT WITH DILIGENCE AND CARE. LORD, WE LIFT UP THE CITY COUNCIL, EVERY MEMBER AND ALL WHO SERVE ALONGSIDE THEM. GRANT THEM WISDOM THAT IS PURE AND PEACEABLE, CLARITY IN JUDGMENT AND UNITY AND PURPOSE. STRENGTHEN THEM TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY AND TO SEEK THE GOOD OF ALL WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS CITY. WE PRAY, ESPECIALLY IN THIS SEASON OF TRANSITION. WE ASK YOU TO YOUR BLESSINGS UPON THE NEW CITY MANAGER AND ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEADERS ESTABLISHED THEIR STEPS. GRANT THEM DISCERNMENT AND SURROUND THEM WITH WITH WISE COUNSEL AS THEY HELP GUIDE THE CITY FORWARD. WE ALSO LIFT UP THE WELL-BEING OF THIS COMMUNITY. YOU SEE, EVERY HOME, EVERY FAMILY, EVERY HIDDEN BURDEN. WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH ANXIETY, LONELINESS, OR DISCOURAGEMENT THAT THEY WOULD FIND HOPE, SUPPORT, AND HEALING. BLESS AND STRENGTHEN ALL WHO LABOR TO CARE FOR THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH OF OTHERS AND LEAD THIS CITY. BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRULY SEEN AND KNOWN AND HELPED. WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND SO MANY WAYS ON THE COMMISSIONS IN CIVIC ROLES AND THOSE AND THROUGH ACTS OF VOLUNTEERISM, STIR IN MANY HEARTS A WILLINGNESS TO GIVE, TO SERVE, AND TO INVEST IN THE FLOURISHING OF THE CITY. BUILD IN US A SPIRIT OF SHARED RESPONSIBILITY AND GENUINE NEIGHBORLY CARE. WE PRAY FOR THE EVERY GENERATION IN CYPRUS, ITS CHILDREN AND YOUTH, THAT THEY WOULD GROW IN WISDOM AND CHARACTER. IT'S FAMILIES THAT THEY WOULD BE STRENGTHENED AND ITS SENIORS THAT THEY WOULD BE HONORED, SUPPORTED AND CHERISHED. LORD, AS DECISIONS ARE MADE TONIGHT, WE ASK THAT THEY WOULD BE GUIDED BY TRUTH, FAIRNESS, AND FORESIGHT. HELP THESE LEADERS TO GOVERN IN WAYS THAT PROMOTE JUSTICE, PROTECT THE VULNERABLE, AND FOSTER PEACE AND WELL-BEING FOR ALL. AND ABOVE ALL, WE ASK THAT YOUR PRESENCE WOULD REST UPON THIS PLACE, THAT YOUR GRACE WOULD LEAD, YOUR PEACE WOULD GUARD. AND THAT YOU WILL BE DONE IN THIS CITY AS IT AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. WE OFFER THESE PRAYERS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE NATION. ONE NATION UNDER GOD. AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. MICROPHONE. NEXT ON THE AGENDA

[ REPORT OF CLOSED SESSION The City Attorney will announce reportable actions(s).]

THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED A PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL BRIEFING FROM STAFF. QUESTIONS

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IN ONE CASE, THAT BRIEFING WAS PROVIDED IN WRITING. NO REPORTABLE ACTION WAS TAKEN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ON THE AGENDA ARE PRESENTATIONS. WE'RE GOING

[ PRESENTATIONS: Recognition of the 50th Anniversary of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Professional Municipal Clerks Week May 3-9, 2026 National Police Week May 11-17, 2026 Veterans Recognition presented to John Harris ]

AND THEN I HAVE SOME LETTERS THAT I'LL GET TO THE CITY CLERK TO DELIVER TO EACH OF YOU, WHICH GOES INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY QUICKLY. THE FIRST ONE BEGINS ON MONDAY, MAY 18TH FROM 6 TO 7:00 IN OUR CHURCH BUILDING, JUST A FEW BLOCKS DOWN ON ON THE CITY OF LAWRENCE, THERE'LL BE A BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION OF BRONZE SCULPTURES FROM ARTIST ANGELA JOHNSON, WELL KNOWN IN UTAH, AND IT'S ENTITLED THE LIFE OF CHRIST. THERE'LL BE A SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY TO BE SOME OF THE FIRST THAT WILL SEE THAT IN A SMALL GROUP FROM 6 TO 7 ON MAY 18TH, AND THEN ON SATURDAY, MAY 23RD, THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA LDS CHOIR WILL PRESENT. YOU MIGHT KNOW THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PRESENT ON EASTER SUNDAY AT FOREST LAWN. THAT'S THAT SAME GROUP. THEY'RE SOME OF THE BEST SINGERS IN OUR CHURCH. AND THE WHOLE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA REGION WILL PERFORM MOSTLY A MUSICAL CONCERT WITH SOME PATRIOTIC SONGS, BUT SOME SPIRITUAL MESSAGES AS WELL. AND THERE'S A SPECIAL RECEPTION OF THAT AT 630, JUST A HALF HOUR BEFORE FOR COMMUNITY LEADERS AS A VIP RECEPTION FOR THAT. AND ON SUNDAY, THE DAY AFTER THAT, ON MAY 24TH AT 630, THERE WILL BE A CHANCE TO MEET A WELL-KNOWN SPEAKER IN OUR CHURCH, A WORLDWIDE CHURCH. BRAD WILCOX, A PROFESSOR AT BYU, AN AUTHOR OF MANY BOOKS AND WAS A LEADER OF THE WORLDWIDE ORGANIZATION FOR TEENAGERS FOR A WHILE. AND HE'LL BE SPEAKING A VERY ENTERTAINING, VERY TALENTED, ENTERTAINING SPEAKER. SO THOSE THAT COME CAN MEET HIM IN A VERY INTIMATE GATHERING PRIOR TO HIS SPEECH AT 7:00 ON ON MAY 23RD, ON THE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY EVENTS, FOR THOSE LEADERS THAT CHOOSE TO COME, THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PUBLIC PRESENTATION OF TO INTRODUCE YOU. WE EXPECT TO HAVE AT LEAST 500 PEOPLE THAT ARE PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT, BUT THAT'S MINIMUM ON THAT. AND WE HOPE THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN AND WE APPRECIATE THAT RECOGNITION. I HAVE LETTERS THAT FOR EACH OF THE THE, THE MAYOR AND THE AND THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, TO GOES OVER THE DETAILS OF WHAT I JUST WAS TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. CAN EVERYONE PLEASE COME DOWN? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AND WE'LL GET. OKAY.

AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF YOU COULD STAY IN THE. WELL, WE'LL JUST CONTINUE WITH THE REMAINING PRESENTATIONS FOR THIS EVENING. OKAY. SO THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK, WHICH IS CELEBRATED MAY 3RD THROUGH MAY 9TH. I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THIS SPECIAL WEEK WHERE WE CAN CELEBRATE

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SO. SO HOW COME THE CITY CLERK GETS THE BIGGEST. YES, YES. THE NEXT PRESENTATION WILL BE FOR NATIONAL POLICE WEEK. IT'S RECOGNIZED ON MAY 11TH THROUGH MAY 17TH. AND WE HAVE CHIEF LOUDERBACK HERE THIS EVENING TO ACCEPT A CERTIFICATE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. IT'S COMING.

AND THEN LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL RECOGNITION THIS EVENING TO RECOGNIZE OUR VETERAN WHO IS JOHN HARRIS. HE LIVES IN CYPRUS AND HE'S HERE WITH HIS WIFE, JANINE, AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL FAMILY AND FRIENDS. AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME JOINING ONLINE. SO PLEASE, MR. HARRIS, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD.

OH, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? OH, CERTAINLY. WELL, OKAY. THE CERTIFICATE STATES CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER FIVE HARRIS IN IS A CALIFORNIA NATIVE WITH OVER 44 YEARS OF CONTINUOUS ARMY SERVICE AND A CYPRUS RESIDENT SINCE 1983, ENLISTED IN THE US ARMY RESERVE AT AGE 17 AS A HELICOPTER CREW CHIEF AND ENTERED THE WARRANT OFFICER FLIGHT TRAINING PROGRAM.

IN 1972, HE BECAME THE LAST RESERVIST TO VOLUNTARILY BE MOBILIZED AND DEPLOYED FOR COMBAT DUTY IN VIETNAM. HE DEPARTED MARCH 28TH, 1973. AMONG THE LAST 500 U.S. COMBAT TROOPS, HE BECAME AN INSTRUCTOR PILOT FOR BOTH THE ONE HUEY AND A H. ONE COBRA. HE ALSO SERVED AS AN AVIATION SAFETY OFFICER AND TACTICAL OPERATIONS OFFICER. HE FLEW FIREFIGHTING AND SEARCH AND RESCUE HELICOPTERS FOR SANTA BARBARA, ORANGE COUNTY AND KERN COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENTS. AWARDS INCLUDE TWO LEGION OF MERIT, BRONZE STAR, SIX AIR MEDALS, ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL, ARMY ACHIEVEMENT MEDAL, MASTER, ARMY AVIATOR BADGE, PARACHUTIST BADGE, JAMAICAN DEFENSE FORCE AVIATOR WINGS. IN 2021, HE RECEIVED HIS F A A'S WRIGHT BROTHERS MASTER PILOT AWARD FOR OVER 50 YEARS OF SAFE FLYING.

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[ ORAL COMMUNICATIONS This portion of the meeting is set aside for public comments regarding any matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council. Comments on non-agenda items will be heard at this time. Comments related to a specific agenda item will be heard following the staff report for that item and prior to the City Council action, unless the speaker prefers to make the comment during the general public comment period. The City Council cannot discuss or take action on matters not on the agenda for this meeting, but Council members may provide brief responses. Please complete a Speaker’s Card to address the City Council in-person. Please follow the instructions at the end of the agenda and wait for the Mayor or City Clerk to call on you to address the City Council virtually. Speakers providing in-person comments will be called first. Time allotted for public comment (subject to change by the presiding officer). General Public Comment (not on agenda): 3 minutes Consent Calendar (any or all items): 3 minutes Agenda Items (not on consent calendar): 3 minutes per item]

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AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO ALSO SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT JEFF DRAPER'S STAFF. WE'RE GOING TO ANNOUNCE TONIGHT THAT TEAM JAPAN, THE OLYMPIC GIRLS SOFTBALL TEAM IS COMING TO CYPRESS IN JULY. TEAM MEXICO'S OLYMPIC SOFTBALL TEAM IS COMING TO CYPRESS AND GOING TO PLAY AN ALL STAR TEAM OF YOUNG WOMEN FROM ORANGE COUNTY. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SIXTH, SEVENTH AND 8TH OF JULY. GAMES ARE GOING TO START AT 6:00. IT'S GOING TO BE STREAMED BACK TO JAPAN, AND WE'RE HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE STREAMED LOCALLY, AND GAME READY ENTERPRISES IS GOING TO BE PUTTING IT ON LOU SIMON. AND I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REACH OUT TO HIM FOR A FEW THINGS, BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET A FEW PEOPLE HERE. I KNOW THAT KATY IS INTERESTED IN COVERING IT. AND EXCUSE ME, ON THE 5TH OF JULY, THE JAPANESE TEAM WILL BE HERE PRACTICING AND IT'S A GOOD TIME TO GET AUTOGRAPHS, PHOTOS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THE CITY CAN BUILD ON BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY TALKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR, TRYING TO HAVE SIX TEAMS. THERE'S THREE FIELDS. IF WE CAN GET THEM, HAVE A TOURNAMENT AND MAYBE IT'LL GROW INTO SOMETHING FOR CYPRESS, YOU KNOW? AND ANOTHER PERSON I'D LIKE TO MENTION I FORGOT WAS ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER HERE, OFFICER HEALY, I UNDERSTAND HE RETIRED.

HE LEFT AS A DESK SERGEANT. WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING. AND WE LIVE IN A GREAT CITY OF CYPRESS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET THE FOLKS AT HOME ALSO KNOW THAT THESE GAMES ARE GOING TO BE GOING ON AND ON. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FUN. LOOKS LIKE I'M OUT OF TIME. SO THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS. NEXT IS PEARL BOLGER TALKING ON GENERAL ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, FOLLOWED BY MARILYN REAMES. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PEARL BOLGER, RESIDENT OF CYPRESS. I'M SPEAKING ON THE EIR THAT IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE COINCIDING RECENT SOCIAL MEDIA AND LOCAL NEWS PUBLICATION. INFORMATION RELATED TO CHANGING THE BUSINESS PARK ZONING TO INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. THE TIMING OF THIS IS INTERESTING AND CONCERNING. AS A RESIDENT FOR 2426 YEARS, I HAVE SEEN THE SUCCESS OF CYPRESS CONNECTED TO THE VISION OF INDIVIDUALS IN CITY LEADERSHIP AND STAFF OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS WHO HAVE RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR A BUSINESS PARK TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL STABILITY TO THIS CITY. NOW, IT APPEARS THAT A SMALL GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WANT TO CHANGE THE BUSINESS PARK BECAUSE THEY WANT HOMES IN A DIFFERENT AREA THAN WHAT THE CYPRESS VOTERS APPROVED. SHOULDN'T CRITICAL DECISIONS LIKE THAT BE MADE ANALYZING CRITICAL FACTS AND INFORMATION OVER TIME WITH THE RESIDENTS INPUT? ADDITIONALLY, BEFORE ANY CHANGES OCCUR TO THE HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS PARK, THE IMPACTS TO THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS SHOULD BE EVALUATED. JUST BECAUSE THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS IN BUSINESS FRIENDLY DOESN'T MEAN THE CITY OF CYPRESS, WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO ATTRACT GREAT BUSINESSES, CAN'T DO THE SAME FOR THE YAMAHA AND TRAVELER SITE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT IS MARILYN REEMS, FOLLOWED BY ONLINE COMMENTS. GOOD EVENING. I'M MARILYN REEMS, CYPRESS RESIDENT. WELCOME ABOARD, MISS DELONG. IT'S SO EXCITING TO SEE YOU UP THERE. IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU TOO, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF VERY

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THE OTHER VERY BRIEF COMMENT IS ON ITEM 12 AWARD CONTRACT FOR CITY HALL EXECUTIVE BALLROOM IMPROVEMENTS. AND I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF IT. I BELIEVE DEEPLY THAT YOU GUYS THAT I MEAN, IT'S DARK AND DANK IN THERE. IT'S LIKE BEING IN A CAVE. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN INSIDE THERE, IT'S PRETTY DEPRESSING. AND ALTHOUGH I DON'T SPEND MUCH TIME IN THERE, I'M ASSUMING THAT A LOT OF THE CITY STAFF THAT SPEND A THIRD OF THEIR WAKING HOURS HERE AT WORK DESERVE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BE. THAT WHEN THERE ARE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND SPECIAL MEETINGS BEING HELD, IT'S TIME THAT THAT ROOM GOT STRAIGHTENED UP. SO I'M ALL IN IN FAVOR OF IT, AND I'M PLEASED TO SEE. I KNOW THIS WAS A LOWER BID THAN WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER. I WAS THERE AT THAT FIRST MEETING WHEN THEY FIRST TALKED ABOUT OPTIONS, AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE COME DOWN FROM SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH END OPTIONS. AND I JUST I I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF IT. I THINK YOU GUYS DESERVE THAT. AND FUTURE COUNCILS DESERVE A NICE PLACE TO BE. THAT'S NOT ASKING TOO MUCH. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY INPUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY OTHER. THANK YOU. I'M KELLY KELLY KAY ON ITEM NUMBER 15. KELLY KAY, PRESIDENT OF CYPRESS. WELL OVER TWO DECADES GOING ON THREE ACTUALLY. AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ITEM. IT'S THE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER 15, THE DRAFT OF NEW FISCAL POLICIES.

AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT I HAVE. READING THROUGH IT, I REALIZED, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT A FINANCIAL EXPERT BY ANY MEANS. I WAS JUST READING IT AND I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF CONCERNS. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO RESTRUCTURE THE WAY THAT OUR CITY KIND OF ORGANIZES ITS FINANCES. EVEN. SO, AGAIN, SO THE GENERAL FUND HAS WHAT, A LITTLE UPWARDS OF 41 MILLION. AND THEN BASICALLY ALMOST $25 MILLION IS CONSIDERED SURPLUS.

AND 25% OF THAT WOULD BE REALLOCATED TO EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. AND IT SAID UP TO 15% WOULD GO TO SELF INSURANCE, WHICH IS I THINK WORKER'S COMP IS WHAT IT SAYS. AND THEN THE THREE LATTER CATEGORIES ARE INFRASTRUCTURE, CITY CAPITAL REPLACEMENT AND TECH DEVELOPMENT. AND THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS BECAUSE AS A RESIDENT OF CYPRESS, I FEEL LIKE OUR PRIORITY SHOULD BE REALLY COMMITTED TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAINTAINING OUR OUR RESERVES AND HELPING OUR CITY PROGRESS DIGITALLY IN THIS NEW AGE AND STUFF. SO AND MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT, I MEAN, I'M, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A REALLY SOLID BENEFITS STRUCTURE IN PLACE. I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE EXPENDITURES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF OUR MONEY, A LOT OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO SUPPORTING OUR EMPLOYEES AND RIGHTLY SO. SO MY QUESTION IS, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT INVESTING MORE IN OUR

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[ CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1-14 All matters listed on the Consent Calendar are to be approved with one motion unless a Council Member requests separate action on a specific item. Council Members voting no or abstaining on a Consent Calendar item may do so without removing the item from the Consent Calendar.]

SO ALL MATTERS LISTED ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE TO BE APPROVED WITH ONE MOTION, UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS SEPARATE ACTION ON A SPECIFIC ITEM. COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTING NO OR ABSTAINING ON A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM MAY DO SO WITHOUT REMOVING THE ITEM FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. SO AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS I WANT TO PULL AN ITEM. OKAY, I SEE ONE SPEAKER. DOCTOR CHANG, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT ITEM NINE, AND I WANTED TO THANK THE STAFF. FOR TAKING THIS ON. I THERE'S SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO THE LIGHTING AT OUR NEWER PARKS LIKE ACP AND LEXINGTON VERSUS OUR OLDER PARKS, RIGHT? WHEN IT GETS DARK AT OUR OLDER PARKS, YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK FOR THAT. AND I WOULDN'T MIND PULLING ITEM NUMBER 12. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE, I ACTUALLY VOTED NO ON ORIGINALLY, AND I WOULDN'T MIND SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE. ITEM NUMBER 12 FOR DOCTOR CHANG'S REQUEST WILL BE PULLED. NEXT. SPEAKER WHO I SEE ON THE QUEUE IS COUNCILMEMBER BURKE.

THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATES, AND I THINK THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE FOR YOU, MR. DRAPER. SO I KNOW ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS IS RESEARCH OPTIONS OR FOR THE RECREATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION TO RESEARCH OPTIONS FOR A SPRING CULTURAL FESTIVAL BY NOVEMBER 1ST. AND I DIDN'T IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME INITIALLY, BUT IF THE FESTIVAL IS HOPEFULLY GOING TO OCCUR NEXT SPRING, JUST RESEARCHING OPTIONS BY NOVEMBER 1ST, I WORRY THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE LATE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS AMPLE TIME TO PLAN THE EVENT. CAN YOU SHED ANY LIGHT ON MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING OR THE TIMELINE FOR THAT? YEAH. SO THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS AT ONE OF THEIR FUTURE MEETINGS, SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS FOR A FESTIVAL OF SOME SORT. WITH THAT, WE WILL THEN BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. AND AT THAT TIME WE WILL WE WILL GET YOUR INPUT ON THAT AND, AND RECOMMEND OBVIOUSLY, WHATEVER FESTIVAL IT MAY BE. SO IT WILL COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEN OUR STAFF WILL WILL PLAN FROM THERE. OKAY.

AND DO YOU THINK THAT WILL COME BACK? DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHEN THAT MIGHT COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL? THE COMMISSION WILL MOST LIKELY BE DISCUSSING THAT IN JUNE. SO JUNE, JULY, IT MAY COME BACK IN AUGUST WHEN WE WHEN WE RECONVENE FROM THE SUMMER BREAK. OKAY. WELL, THAT MAKES ME OR FEEL LESS WORRIED FOR YOUR SAKE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AT THIS TIME, THE ONLY ITEM PULLED IS NUMBER 12, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AS IF DOING THE MOTION, PLEASE INCLUDE THE CORRECTED RECOMMENDATION. SURE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH 14, EXCEPT FOR ITEM 12 WITH THE CORRECTION TO ITEM NUMBER ONE. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THAT? NO, I THINK WE HAVE IT NOW FOR THE RECORD. OKAY, THAT'S MY MOTION. I WILL SECOND THAT.

THERE'S A MOTION AND HAS BEEN SECONDED. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

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SO WE WOULDN'T TRANSFER ANYTHING THERE FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN THE OTHER REMAINING BALANCE, WHICH IS ABOUT 12.4 MILLION FOR THE GIVEN FISCAL YEAR, WOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO INFRASTRUCTURE RESERVE. AND THESE ARE JUST PERCENTAGES AND PLACEHOLDERS THAT I PUT TOGETHER. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL AND FORMAL ACTION BEFORE THOSE MOVES WERE ACTUALLY MADE AND TRANSFERRED. BUT THE POLICY JUST KIND OF STATES THE REMAINING BALANCE. AND SO GIVEN THAT YEAR WILL FLUCTUATE WITH WHAT GOES TO WHICH FUND. AND THEN IT WOULD END WITH A 16.6 MILLION REMAINING IN THE GENERAL FUND, THE MAJORITY OF THAT BEING COMMITTED. AND THEN THE OTHER PORTION BEING THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR ANY UNFORESEEN APPROPRIATIONS IN THE GIVEN YEAR. AND ALL THOSE MOVES AND TRANSFERS WE'VE MADE, BASICALLY JUST KEEP OUR BALANCES AT 174 MILLION CITY WIDE. WE'RE JUST MOVING THE BUCKETS THAT THEY'RE IN. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. DOCTOR CHANG, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. Q I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, STEPHANIE, THAT WAS THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL, ACTUALLY. HOW DID YOU COME ACROSS HOW DID YOU DECIDE ON THOSE NUMBERS, LIKE THE 25% LIMIT FOR GENERAL FUND RESERVES AND 25% FOR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUNDS? SO FOR THE COMMITTED FUND BALANCE ITSELF, THE GFOA RECOMMENDS A 17% FUND BALANCE, AND WE ALREADY EXCEEDING THAT WITH 25%. SO THAT'S HOW I CAME UP WITH STAYING WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE YOU'RE ABOVE THE BEST PRACTICE, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE. THE 25% TO THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS WAS LOOKING AT THE NEXT BIGGEST LIABILITY THAT THE CITY HAS, WHICH ARE YOUR EMPLOYEE, YOUR PENSION LIABILITY AND YOUR OPEB LIABILITY. WE'VE CURRENTLY BEEN AGGRESSIVELY WORKING THAT DOWN. SO OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, THAT MAY GO AWAY WHERE WE'RE NOT TRANSFERRING INTO THOSE FUNDS AS WELL. BUT THAT JUST SEEMED LIKE THE NEXT BIGGEST BUCKET TO TACKLE ASIDE FROM THE OTHER ONES. BUT THOSE ARE JUST SIMPLY EXAMPLE OF PERCENTAGES THAT I PUT FOR RECOMMENDATION. COUNCIL HAS THE DISCRETION TO CHANGE THOSE AT ANY POINT IN TIME, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE BRINGING A DRAFT TO YOU PRIOR TO A FINAL. OKAY. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE EVER DID REACH THAT UNFUNDED PENSION LIABILITY? WOULD WE WOULD WE WOULD WE WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT WE CHANGE THE 25% TO THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND? WELL, THE POLICY IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN THAT IT'S UP TO 25%. AND IT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT THE LIABILITIES THEMSELVES AND SAYS LIKE, ONCE THOSE ARE TAKEN CARE OF, THEN WE WOULDN'T TRANSFER THE 25%. SO YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO CHANGE THE POLICY. IT'S JUST EACH YEAR WHEN THAT ACTION IS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU, IT WOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING GOING TO THOSE FUNDS, AND IT WOULD BASICALLY HAVE IT ALL GOING TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE RESERVE FUND, THE CAP WILL REPLACEMENT AND THE IT FUND AT THAT POINT. OKAY. SO THE ACTUAL PERCENTAGES MIGHT CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR, CORRECT? OKAY. CORRECT. IT HAS THE PARAMETERS THAT IT LOOKS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LIKE EXAMINE AND LOOK AT YOUR LIABILITIES FOR THAT GIVEN YEAR SO THAT WE'RE NOT OVERFUNDING CERTAIN AREAS. OKAY, I SAW THAT WE HAVE 10,000. THERE'S A $10,000 LIMIT FOR BUILDINGS IMPROVEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THAT WAS SET IN THE CITY'S CHARTER. IS THAT ENOUGH MONEY? SHOULD IT BE

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KNOWING THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ON IS GOING TO COST MORE THAN THE REVENUE COMING IN OVERALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER BURKE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. DOCTOR CHANG TOOK SOME OF MY QUESTIONS SO I DON'T HAVE AS MANY.

REGARDING THE THE UNFUNDED LIABILITIES WE HAVE. I THINK THERE'S THE TWO MAIN ONES IN THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TRANSFERRING TO. THERE'S THE PENSION LIABILITY.

AND THEN THE SECOND IS THE RETIREE HEALTH CARE, CORRECT? OPEB. OPEB. THAT'S RIGHT. OTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. AND SO I BELIEVE WE'RE ON TRACK TO FULLY FUND THOSE LIABILITIES RELATIVELY SOON. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO BY 2030, THE CITY HAS A PLAN TO FULLY FUND ITS PENSION LIABILITY. BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 7 MILLION IN OPEB LIABILITY. THAT IS THE NEXT THING TO TACKLE. ONCE WE FINISH THE PENSION. AND THE PENSION TRUST THAT THE CITY IS USING CAN ALSO BE USED FOR OPEB LIABILITY. SO AS THOSE EVENTS INVESTMENTS EXCEED EXPECTATIONS AS WELL, THOSE CAN GO TOWARDS THAT OPEB LIABILITY. OKAY, GREAT. SO WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO DO ANYTHING SEPARATE TO ADDRESS THE OPEB LIABILITY. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN BEYOND THOSE TWO, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL SIGNIFICANT UNFUNDED LIABILITIES THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT THING TO DEVOTE FUNDS TO, OR IS THAT ESSENTIALLY IT? THOSE ARE THE TWO BIGGEST THAT THE CITY HAS. THERE'S OUR TWO OTHER LIABILITIES THAT I SAID RIGHT NOW ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED, WHICH IS YOUR GENERAL LIABILITY. AND WORKERS COMP. THOSE TWO DO FLUCTUATE EACH YEAR DEPENDING UPON YOUR CLAIMS. IN A GIVEN YEAR. THEY DO. THEY GO ALSO GO THROUGH AN ACTUARIAL REPORT. AND THOSE LIABILITIES ARE REASSESSED EACH YEAR. SO THOSE COULD FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT IN A GIVEN YEAR. BUT CURRENTLY THE CITY HAS THOSE TWO FUNDED. OKAY.

WELL I THINK THAT'LL PUT US IN A GREAT POSITION RELATIVE TO MOST OTHER AGENCIES ONCE WE HIT THOSE MARKS. SO THAT'S ENCOURAGING. AND THEN YOU ALSO MENTIONED THE 25% SORT OF GOES TO UNASSIGNED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS OR GIVE FLEXIBILITY TO ADDRESS THINGS THAT COME UP DURING THE YEAR. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF WE PASS A BUDGET OR WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT THEN AN UNEXPECTED ISSUE COMES UP OR RESIDENTS HAVE A GREAT IDEA WE WANT TO PURSUE, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME LIKE THAT. 25% SHOULD GIVE US SOME ROOM TO TO ADDRESS THAT WITHOUT FALLING INTO A BUDGET DEFICIT. EXACTLY. IT WOULD GIVE YOU THAT FLEXIBILITY TO ADDRESS THAT WITHOUT GETTING INTO YOUR COMMITTED PART. THAT'S MAINLY GOING TO BE SET ASIDE FOR RAINY DAY FUND. SO SOMETHING DRASTIC HAPPENS WHERE WE LOSE REVENUE COMING IN. THAT'S WHERE THAT COMMITTED IS USED, SAVED FOR VERSUS THIS 25% IS FOR THOSE AN EXTRA EVENT OR A PROJECT THAT POPS UP AND COUNCIL WANTS TO ADD THAT INTO THE BUDGET. OKAY, WELL, I'M GLAD WE HAVE THAT ABILITY. AND THEN LASTLY, I KNOW WE'RE ALSO THE BOARD THAT MAKES DECISIONS FOR THE PARKS DISTRICT. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE POLICIES, ARE THESE BEING APPLIED TO THE CITY ONLY OR TO THE PARKS DISTRICT AS WELL? THE POLICY BEFORE YOU ONLY INCLUDES THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE RESERVE FUND. IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND IT TO INCLUDE THE DISTRICT, I CAN ALSO INCLUDE THAT INTO THE POLICY AS WELL. OKAY. I THINK, WELL, THAT'D BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO PRESS YOU TO DO

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YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE MORE OF A QUESTION ON TIMING. OKAY. SO WHEN DO YOU THINK THIS WILL COME BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL? BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP ON THE 13TH, AND THAT'S A DAY AFTER OUR COUNCIL MEETING. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, THAT WE NOT HAVE THIS APPROVAL BEFORE US UNTIL WE'VE HAD THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY FOREVER, ANY CHANGES THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE TO IT. IS THAT DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THIS IS PLANNED TO COME BEFORE YOU THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY. SO YOU WILL HAVE ALREADY HAD THE WORKSHOP. THAT'S IT. THAT WOULD ANSWER MY QUESTION. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS. THERE IS NO OTHER SPEAKERS ON THE QUEUE AT THIS TIME. I'LL CLOSE DISCUSSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO. OR IS THERE IS THERE A MOTION OR ANYTHING ON. JUST. JUST DIRECT US TO. OKAY, OKAY. CORRECTION. SO UNLESS I HEAR OTHERWISE, WE'LL GO FORWARD AND GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ACCORDINGLY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA NUMBER 16. SO, MR. MAYOR, TYPICALLY A REPORT LIKE THIS YOU'D HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. OH SO IT'S CORRECTION. OKAY. OKAY. SO THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECEIVE ITEM NUMBER 15. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE I SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM NUMBER 16 APPROVE AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY OF ORANGE FOR A MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL SERVICES AND RECEIVE THE ANNUAL SOLID WASTE FRANCHISE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX RATE ADJUSTMENT. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

PLEASE PROCEED. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, TONIGHT THERE ARE TWO ITEMS BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY'S WISE AGREEMENT AND THE ANNUAL SOLID WASTE RATE ADJUSTMENT. TOGETHER, THESE TWO ITEMS EXPLAIN THIS YEAR'S RATE INCREASE THAT YOU ARE SEEING. TO START OFF, THE KEY TAKEAWAY IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE INCREASE THAT YOU SEE TONIGHT IS DRIVEN BY COUNTY LANDFILL COSTS. THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT TREATS THE LANDFILL COSTS AS A DIRECT PASS THROUGH, SO ANY INCREASE THAT WE SEE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL ARE DIRECTLY PASSED ALONG TO THE RATEPAYERS. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS INCREASE IS NOT BEING DRIVEN BY THE CITY NOR THE FRANCHISE HAULER, AND THAT THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO CYPRUS. THIS IS A COUNTYWIDE ISSUE AFFECTING ALL ORANGE COUNTY CITIES. FOR SOME BACKGROUND, THE COUNTY OWNS AND OPERATES THREE ACTIVE LANDFILLS IN ORANGE COUNTY CITIES RELY ON THESE LANDFILLS FOR DISPOSAL CAPACITY. FOR OVER A DECADE, CITIES OPERATED UNDER THE PRIOR WASTE DISPOSAL AGREEMENT, WHICH EXPIRED LAST YEAR, MAKING A NEW LONG TERM AGREEMENT NECESSARY. UNDER THE NEW AGREEMENT, LANDFILL RATE INCREASES WILL BE PHASED IN OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD, WITH RATES JUMPING FROM ROUGHLY $44 PER TON TO $81 PER TON OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. STARTING IN YEAR FOUR, RATES WILL BE ADJUSTED ANNUALLY BASED ON CPI.

THE COUNTY HAS STATED THAT THESE INCREASES ARE NECESSARY TO CONTINUE PROVIDING THEIR SERVICES AND TO ADDRESS RISING OPERATIONAL COSTS, FUTURE EXPANSIONS AND THE PLANNED CLOSURE OF THE BREA OLINDA SITE. SO HOW DOES THIS TIE INTO THE ANNUAL RATE ADJUSTMENT? SO PER THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, ANNUAL RATE ADJUSTMENTS ARE ALLOWED ON A FORMULA BASIS THAT IS SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT IN THE AGREEMENT. TWO MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE RATE ADJUSTMENTS ARE ONE, THE COLLECTION AND WASTE SERVICES, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY VALLEY VISTA'S OPERATIONS AND OVERHEAD, AND TWO, THE LANDFILL DISPOSAL FEES, WHICH AGAIN, THESE ARE TREATED AS A STRAIGHT PASS THROUGH COST. HISTORICALLY, THESE ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN RELATIVELY MODEST, AVERAGING JUST OVER 4.5% OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. BUT THIS YEAR THE LANDFILL FEE INCREASED IS THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF THE ADJUSTMENT. AND THIS GRAPH, YOU CAN SEE THE MODEST INCREASE IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS AND THE LARGE JUMP THIS CURRENT YEAR, DUE TO THE NEW WISE AGREEMENT FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER ASSUMING THREE CARTS SERVICE, THE INCREASE IS ABOUT $5.80 PER MONTH, AND OF THAT INCREASE, ROUGHLY $5.33 IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE COUNTY LANDFILL COST. THE BALANCE OF $0.47 IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ANNUAL CPI ADJUSTMENT, SO GIVEN THESE INCREASES, A FAIR QUESTION IS WHY APPROVE THE AGREEMENT? AND THE KEY REASON

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THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS. AND THEN I KNOW WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM VALLEY VISTA HERE WITH US AND MAY WANT TO HAVE HIM ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS IF HE'S AMENABLE AT AT A CERTAIN POINT, THE FIRST THING IS JUST I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT THE CAUSE OF THE INCREASE, AND I THINK THAT DIRECTOR MENCHACA MADE CLEAR THAT THE BULK OF THE $5.80 INCREASE IS DUE TO THE INCREASE IN THE COUNTY LANDFILL RATE, $5.33 OF THAT. AND THAT'S THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE COUNTY LANDFILL RATE GOES UP, IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL. HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO ALSO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT DIFFERENT CITIES ARE AFFECTED BY THIS DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF THE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT THAT EACH CITY HAS WITH THEIR OWN WASTE PROVIDER. AND ONE THING I THINK THAT'LL COME OUT SOONER OR LATER IS THAT THE $5.33 INCREASE THAT WE'RE FACING HERE IS MORE THAN IT IS IN A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE SAME AGREEMENT. A FEW CITIES HAVE ALREADY HAD THEIR MEETINGS WITH THIS ITEM. I BELIEVE LA PALMA RATES WENT UP $2.49 PER MONTH. ALISO VIEJO $3.34 PER MONTH. SO IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, I THINK MANY WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME SIZE INCREASE AS WE DO HERE. I DID SEE I THINK HUNTINGTON BEACH HAS A HIGHER INCREASE THAN WE DO, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT THAT THE PRIOR COUNCIL MADE IN 2021. PREVIOUSLY, THE COUNTY LANDFILL RATES ONLY ACCOUNTED FOR 20% OF THE OF YOUR TRASH BILL. BUT IN 2021, THE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS INCREASED THAT TO 37%, MEANING THAT MORE OF THE INCREASE IN THE COUNTY LANDFILL RATE GETS PASSED ON TO RESIDENTS THAN IT WOULD HAVE PRIOR TO THAT 2021 AMENDMENT. AND I JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE

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OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MR. LONG. NICE TO SEE YOU. I HAVEN'T HAD THE PLEASURE YET, BUT GLAD YOU'RE HERE. I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS WITH YOUR STAFF AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS. OBVIOUSLY THE THE TWO ITEMS PER YEAR IS RESTRICTIVE FOR SURE. I MEAN, I HEARD THE SPEAKER EARLIER AND I CAN'T ARGUE THAT POINT. I MEAN, IT IT WOULD APPEAR TO BE A LITTLE RESTRICTIVE. SO I WOULD SAY WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE MORE GENEROUS AND PROBABLY MORE THOUGHTFUL, YOU KNOW, ALIGNING BETTER WITH WHAT THE RESIDENTS REALLY NEED AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SAW IN THE PAST. AS SOMEONE POINTED OUT EARLIER, THERE REALLY ISN'T A LOT OF CALLS FOR BULKY ITEM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T PROVIDE THE SERVICE. AND AS YOU POINTED OUT, COUNCIL MEMBER BURKE, WE DO WANT TO PROVIDE STELLAR SERVICE FOR THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE REALLY DO ENJOY SERVICING CYPRUS. IT'S A GREAT CONTRACT. WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HERE, AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN GOOD TO DEAL WITH YOUR STAFF AND YOUR COUNCIL NEVER HAD ANY COMPLAINTS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO SPITBALL SOME THINGS, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND COME UP WITH A REAL PLAN? I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S TIME, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE VERY WILLING TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING MUCH BETTER FOR YOUR RESIDENTS. WELL THANK YOU. YEAH, OF COURSE, I APPRECIATE THAT A LOT. AND I, YOU KNOW, SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT YOU FEEL LIKE MAKES SENSE, I THINK WE'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT THAT IS. THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT I KNOW I HAD IN MIND, BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME IS JUST THAT WE DEVELOP SOMETHING AND THAT IT COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL KIND OF IN THE RELATIVELY NEAR FUTURE THAT WE CAN CODIFY IN THE IN A AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT SO THAT WE ALL JUST KNOW WHERE WE STAND MOVING FORWARD. SURE. I WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO BE APPROVED BEFORE THE NEW RATES GO INTO EFFECT. OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO GIVE THE PEOPLE SOMETHING FOR, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SEE RATES GO UP, THEY ALSO SEE BENEFITS TO THAT. I WILL MENTION, I MEAN, YOU DIDN'T ASK, BUT I, I DO BELIEVE THE DEAL THAT THE WISE AGREEMENT IS A VERY GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY IN THE LONG HAUL. I MEAN, IT'S A SHORT TERM KIND OF OUCH. BUT IN THE LONG TERM, IT'S GOING TO REALLY PROVE TO BE A GOOD, WISE DECISION. OC ORANGE COUNTY WASTE RECYCLING HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF MANAGING THE LANDFILL SYSTEMS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND THIS LITTLE BUMP IN THE ROAD, I'M SURE MR. KATULIS COULD COULD EXPLAIN IT WAY BETTER THAN I EVER COULD. BUT I KNOW IN THE LONG TERM, WHEN WE SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OTHER COUNTIES, LA COUNTY, ESPECIALLY LANDFILL RATES ARE REALLY GOING THROUGH THE ROOF. SO IF YOU CAN NAIL IT DOWN HERE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING TONIGHT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BETTER OFF FOR YEARS TO COME.

BUT TO THROW OUT AN IDEA, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE AN IDEA AS WELL. I THINK SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF WE GO TO LIKE FOUR CALLS PER YEAR, AND EVERY CALL IS UP TO 10 OR 12 ITEMS. I THINK THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS SOMETHING. THEY COULD, THEY COULD. I MEAN, THEY COULD DO IT HOWEVER THEY WANT, BUT THEY COULD HONESTLY HAVE SOMETHING EVERY QUARTER TO CALL

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I MEAN, I JUST WANT THEM TO COME AND DO THEIR JOB AND, AND MOVE ON AND MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO. PUBLIC WORKS MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER IDEAS. YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME IDEAS, BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD START. AND OF COURSE, WE DO THE SWEEP, THE ANNUAL SWEEP. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BORN OUT OF COVID BECAUSE WE CAN NO LONGER DO THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE ROUNDUPS DURING THE COVID TIMES, BECAUSE SOME OF THE RULES BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S TRYING TO BE VERY POPULAR. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD PROBABLY STAY IN EFFECT AS WELL. SO NOW YOU WOULD HAVE FOUR CALLS PER YEAR PLUS A SWEEP. CALL IT WHAT YOU WILL, A SPRING CLEANUP, FALL CLEANUP, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TERM IT. AND I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY AGREEABLE AND BENEFICIAL TO THE RESIDENTS, BUT HAPPY TO HEAR ANY IDEAS? OH, WELL, YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT ENHANCEMENT SOUNDS GREAT. AND LIKE, LIKE SOME OF THE, LIKE ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SAID IN MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, SOME YEARS, MANY YEARS, IN FACT, I'VE NEVER USED THIS AT ALL. AND THEN SOME YEARS IT'S SOMEONE'S MOVING OR YOU GOT A NEW SET OF FURNITURE AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED FIVE OF THEM.

AND BEING ABLE TO, TO ADDRESS THAT WOULD WOULD BE A BIG, A BIG IMPROVEMENT. AND SO LIKE YOU'RE SAYING MORE CALLS PER YEAR OR UPPING THE ITEMS OR SOME COMBINATION WILL BE GREAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER ELEMENT THAT YOU KIND OF ALLUDED TO ALREADY IS YOU DO THE, I GUESS WE CALL IT THE ANNUAL CURBSIDE PICKUP DAY. AND WE'RE DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. I JUST KNOW IT'S NOT IN THE ACTUAL CONTRACT AND YOU'RE SORT OF DOING, WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU TO CONTINUE DOING THAT. BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO BE GREAT, TO JUST HAVE THAT IN THE CONTRACT, SINCE YOU'RE DOING IT ANYWAY, AND THAT WAY OUR RESIDENTS CAN COUNT ON IT EVERY YEAR. SO THAT WAS MY OTHER, OTHER MAIN SUGGESTION. TOTALLY FINE. HAPPY TO DO IT. I MEAN, YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON OUR BETTER NATURE, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, IT SHOULD BE CODIFIED. SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT IN THE CONTRACT, HAPPY TO DO THAT.

OKAY. WELL THANK YOU THEN. YEAH, WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN BACK HERE, CAN BE BACK HERE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH, WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT TO LOOK AT. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING OPEN, OPEN MINDED. AND LIKE I SAID AT THE OUTSET, THE I KNOW THE COUNTY LANDFILL RACE WAS NOT IN YOUR CONTROL, BUT YOU ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, WHEN THEY SEE INCREASES, THEY'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME ENHANCED SERVICES ALONG WITH THAT. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. YES, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER PETE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT YOU CAN STAY DOWN THERE IN CASE IT COMES BACK TO YOU. FIRST, I WANT TO CLARIFY. YOU KNOW, NICK, YOU YOU LOOK TRY TO LOOK IT UP VERY QUICKLY. CYPRUS IS CURRENTLY NUMBER NINE. OKAY. IN THE LIST FOR THE 2025 FOR THE COMPARING WITH THE OTHER 34 CITIES IN SIMILAR SIZED CITIES. I THINK WE'RE IN THE TOP THREE.

SO WE'VE DONE A REALLY NICE JOB. AND THANK YOU FOR FOR CONTINUING TO SERVE THAT. THE ONE THING THOUGH, THAT WE ARE DOING, AND I, I THINK, NICK, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING. THIS IS WE HAD SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO A REVIEW OF THE CONTRACT, RIGHT. IT'S A GOOD TIME. WE'VE COMPLETED TEN YEARS. WE'RE GOING TO DO A REVIEW. AND I KNOW THAT'S IN PROCESS AS PART OF THAT. WHEN I'VE BEEN TALKING TO NICK, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE OR CHANGE. SO THAT'S BACK TO PROBABLY SOME OF THE UPDATES. I THINK YOU'VE BEEN TALKING DIRECTLY WITH SOME OF YOUR COUNTERPARTS ABOUT AS WELL. THE ONE THING THAT THE TRASH CONTRACTS WITH ANY CITY IS THE LARGEST CONTRACT THAT'S OUT THERE. AND MOST CITIES HAVE AN EVERGREEN CONTRACT, AND WE CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT WITH VALLEY VISTA. BUT WE LOOK AT OUR SURROUNDING CITIES AND THEY'VE GIVEN A, AN ENDLESS FOR IT'S BEEN 30 YEARS PLUS IN SOME CASES, AND THEY JUST EXTENDED EVERY YEAR. SO I APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT VALLEY VISTA HAS PROVIDED TO US. I THINK THIS WILL BE A BIT OF A SHIFT, BUT I THINK, NICK, YOU HAD SOME GOOD IDEAS THAT I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY KIND OF COMBINE IT WITH THE REVIEW OF THE CONTRACT AND KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. SO BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PETE DOCTER CHANG, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANTED TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIVING IN MULTI-UNIT HOUSING. I THINK THERE THERE ARE TWO BULKY ITEM PICKUP PER YEAR ALSO APPLIES TO THE WHOLE HOUSING UNITS. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. YES. TWO PER TWO PER UNIT OR I'M SORRY, IT'S TWO PER COMPLEX. TWO PER COMPLEX. OKAY. SO SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOU

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SO THIS TIME WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE DISCUSSION AND PROCEED WITH ENTERTAINING A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT. DOES ANYONE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER 16 AS IS. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. SORRY, WHO WAS THE SECOND? THANK YOU. AND THAT

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NICK AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND WE HAVE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH STEPHANIE ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUDGET AND THE CIP FOR FUTURE YEARS. AND YES, THE ANSWER SHORT ANSWER IS YES. IF CITY COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BOARDROOM PROJECT, WE CAN STILL UNDERTAKE. AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THE DESIGN OF TWO PARKS IN ONE FISCAL YEAR AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT CONSTRUCTION OF ONE PARK THAT FISCAL YEAR AND THE NEXT PARK THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, YOU WILL HAVE ONE PARK THAT WILL BE UP FOR DESIGN SHORTLY, BOTH PUBLIC OUTREACH AND THEN THE DESIGN PORTION OF IT. SO THERE THERE'S NOTHING THAT WILL PRECLUDE YOU FROM CONTINUING THAT, THAT PLAN GOING FORWARD. OKAY, THAT SOUNDS TERRIFIC. I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE HOURS USED FOR THE SCHEDULED WIKI, BOARDROOM, BOARDROOM USE. AND MOST OF THE TIME IT'S LESS THAN TEN HOURS PER WEEK FOR THAT BOARDROOM. I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD USE THIS SPACE MORE, POSSIBLY AS JUST MORE LIKE A MEETING ROOM. I HEARD THAT IT'S THE LARGEST ROOM THAT WE HAVE IN THE ENTIRE BUILDING, AND IF IT'S MORE OF A CONVERSION FROM A BOARDROOM TO A CONFERENCE ROOM, DO YOU THINK THIS IS A SPACE THAT YOU COULD USE MORE? YES. OKAY. TERRIFIC. AND OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD. RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SMALL. I THINK IT IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIT 9 OR 10 PEOPLE COMFORTABLY, BUT HOPEFULLY WE COULD GET MORE SPACE FOR THAT. ALSO, IS THERE ANY OPTIONS FOR TAKING OUT GOING WITH THE CHEAPER ROUTES? BESIDES, I SAW THAT THE ROOF LOWERING THE ROOF WOULD BE $30,000 EXTRA, WHICH WHICH DOESN'T SOUND TOO BAD TO ME. AND I MEAN, I'M SORRY, THE HAVING A RAISED ROOF FOR $30,000 SOUNDS OKAY TO ME. ARE THERE ANY OTHER OPTIONS FOR REDUCING THAT COST? SO WE DID INCLUDE A DEDUCT ITEM IN THE BID FOR THE RAISED CEILING. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS WAS A COMPETITIVE BID PROJECT PER THE PUBLIC CONTRACTS CODE, ONCE YOU OPEN THE BIDS, YOU CANNOT MATERIALLY MODIFY THE SCOPE OF WORK. IF COUNCIL DOES WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TO REVISE THE SCOPE, WE WOULD REJECT ALL BIDS AND REBID THE REVISED SCOPE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK

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ITEMS FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. OKAY, THERE IS NONE. NEXT ITEM IS COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS FROM

[ COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS FROM CITY-AFFILIATED BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND REMARKS]

THERE WAS SOMETHING FUN FOR EVERYBODY. I DID WANT TO THANK OUR CITY STAFF FOR CREATING SUCH A FUN AND ENGAGING EVENT. I ALSO REALLY ADMIRE HOW WELL YOU STAYED ON A GREAT BUDGET. I DID REVIEW THE BUDGET SPENDING FOR THAT. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE DOING YOUR FACEBOOK MARKETING TO GET THAT KIND OF TURNOUT ON SUCH AN INEXPENSIVE AD CAMPAIGN. GREAT JOB. CONGRATS. ON APRIL 7TH, I MET WITH CONNOR MEDINA, WHO'S OUR LOCAL CAL CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE. I SPOKE ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD A LITTLE BIT MORE MOMENTUM WITH OTHER ORANGE COUNTY CITIES AND HOPEFULLY ESCALATE THE NEED FOR LEGISLATION BANNING CHILD MARRIAGE TO GO TO THE SACRAMENTO LEGISLATURE. AT THIS POINT, I WANT TO THANK MY

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WHAT A. WHAT A GREAT RESOURCE SHE IS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO SHE JUST HAS IT DOWN. I LOVE IT. ATTENDED THE KING ELEMENTARY OPEN HOUSE, SO I GOT A BRIEF TOUR. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING, AS WELL AS PARTICIPATED WITH THE WOMEN'S CLUB TO PRESENT THEM WITH $500 CHECK FOR ARTS AND CULTURE. THEN I ATTENDED A WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE, THE FOURTH ANNUAL, WHERE THEY PULL LEADERS ALL OVER ORANGE COUNTY TO TALK ABOUT CAREER NETWORKING, THINGS LIKE THAT. APRIL 22ND WAS EARTH DAY, SO WE HAD TWO THINGS THAT DAY. ONE WAS AS PART OF THE CALIFORNIA CLEAN ACTIVITY, THE WOMEN'S CLUB PARTNERED WITH SOME SCHOOLS, AND THEY SPECIFICALLY PARTNERED WITH LEXINGTON JUNIOR HIGH AND TO DO SOME RECYCLING.

SO THEY WERE TURNING IN ALL THEIR RECYCLING AND EVERYTHING THEY DID THAT DAY. AND WE PROBABLY HAD 20 KIDS THAT WERE WERE THERE DOING THIS. IT WAS IT WAS GREAT. AND I GOT A BRIEF TOUR, HADN'T BEEN TO LEXINGTON FOR A WHILE, AND THEY'RE DOING SOME GREAT THINGS THERE. ALSO ATTENDED AN EVENING EVENT WITH ECOS. THEY REALLY HAD A WONDERFUL CELEBRATION FOR EARTH DAY AND THEY RECENTLY RELEASED. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, RECENTLY, RELEASED A NEW ADVERTISEMENT FOR THEIR PRODUCTS. THEY DO EARTH FRIENDLY PRODUCTS, AND THEY HAVE A FACE THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY RECOGNIZE IF YOU EVER SEEN THE MY GREEK WEDDING. SO IT WAS PRETTY WELL DONE. AND AND A GREAT EVENT. I ATTENDED THE THE FRANK BOWERMAN LANDFILL WITH WITH OUR MAYOR LAST WEEK. THAT WAS ENLIGHTENING. AND NICK, THANK YOU FOR SETTING THAT UP.

THAT WAS THAT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING. AND I LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT TRASH. WE WENT TO THE SENIOR CENTER VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO JESSE FOR WINNING THE LATINO AWARD. THAT'S WELL DESERVED FOR HER. I ATTENDED A NIGHT AT THE TRACK BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB EVENT, AND FOR SOME OF THOSE THAT MAY GO BY THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB BUILDING OVER HERE, YOU'VE SEEN SOME WORK. FIRST OF ALL, YOU'VE SEEN IT CLOSED OFF BECAUSE OF HVAC AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON. NOW THEY'RE UPDATING IT TO BE A LEARNING CENTER. AND SO THEY'RE BRINGING IN MODULES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO TEACH TEENS ABOUT HOME IMPROVEMENT, NURSING, BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING. I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY WELL DONE AND REALLY SEE THEM STEPPING UP TO MATCH WITH WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE ANAHEIM UNION'S DOING AS WELL. WENT TO OXFORD ACADEMY YESTERDAY TO PRESENT TWO SCHOLARSHIPS, $1,500 EACH, SCHOLARSHIPS TO TWO SENIORS, AND THEN THIS MORNING ATTENDED THE CYPRESS HIGH SCHOOL CAPSTONE SENIOR SHOWCASE. AND THEY INVITE BUSINESS PEOPLE, ANYBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY, TO COME IN AND LISTEN TO THE SENIORS, GIVE THEIR STORY ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED. SO IT'S BEEN A GREAT, GREAT MONTH. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PETE NEXT, COUNCILMEMBER BURKE. THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEW EVENTS TO REPORT, BUT FIRST, I'M GOING TO I WANT TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED AT THE PRIOR MEETING, AND I'M GOING TO QUIZ MR. WEINER IN A MOMENT, BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE. BUT AT THE LAST MEETING IN MARCH, I HAD PROPOSED AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE TO PROVIDE CLARITY TO THE RECREATION COMMISSIONERS REGARDING SOME GOALS THE COUNCIL HAD SET, AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE DID NOT GET CREATED DUE TO. I THINK YOU'LL NEVER SEE THIS AGAIN. A TWO YES.

ONE. NO. TWO ABSTENTION VOTE, BUT I WAS. I LEFT THAT SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTED AND A LITTLE A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK BY THE KIND OF CONTROVERSY OVER THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. IN MY EXPERIENCE, HAVING AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEES IS A THING COUNCILS OFTEN DO. I THINK WE'VE HAD AT LEAST TEN HERE DURING MY TIME IN CYPRUS. AND SO I JUST I WANTED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THINGS. AND SO AFTER THE MEETING, I SUBSEQUENTLY SPOKE WITH OUR ATTORNEY, MR. WEINER. HE'S WORKED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT A LONG TIME, AND I'M GLAD I DID. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR TO ALLOW HIM TO SHARE SOME OF THE INFORMATION HE SHARED WITH ME. AND SO, MR. WEINER, CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR US, IS IT PERMISSIBLE FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER OR TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COMMISSIONERS ABOUT POLICY GOALS SET BY THE COUNCIL? ABSOLUTELY. THE EXPERIENCE THAT I SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS THAT IT IS NOT AT ALL ATYPICAL FOR A CITY TO APPOINT A LIAISON OF AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL TO, TO, TO INTER INTERACT WITH BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES, TO

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THEY PROVIDE FEEDBACK, THEY MAY PROVIDE SUGGESTIONS. THEY'RE NON-VOTING MEMBERS. ULTIMATELY, THE ACTIONS OF BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES GET FULLY REPORTED BACK TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL FOR EITHER RATIFICATION OR APPROVAL OR RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL ACTION. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND SO IF IF MAYOR PRO TEM CHANG WANTED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CULTURAL FESTIVAL IDEA HE HAD, OR I WANTED TO SHARE BACKGROUND INFO ABOUT PLAYGROUND ENHANCEMENTS, DO WE EVEN NEED TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO DO THAT? YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. MY ONLY CONCERN IS SHOULDN'T BE MORE THAN TWO OF YOU GOT BROWN ACT ISSUES HERE. AND YOU KNOW, AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, YOU COULD COME TO THOSE COMMITTEES IN LIAISON WITH THEM. SO YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WISH I HAD KNOWN THAT A YEAR AGO, BUT THANKS FOR MAKING THOSE CLARIFICATIONS. YEAH, I MAY I MAY REACH OUT TO SHED SOME LIGHT AND ENCOURAGE ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME. IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION TO SHARE. AND THANKS AGAIN. IN TERMS OF, I WENT TO A LOT OF THE SAME EVENTS AS MY COLLEAGUES. EGG HUNT WAS FANTASTIC. VERY WELL DONE. LOVE THE SAINT IRENAEUS PACE, GRADUATION AND ECHO. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE'S SENTIMENTS ABOUT OFFICER MARQUEZ, MAYOR MEDRANO AND I ATTENDED A AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING WITH THE ANAHEIM UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS. WE DID BRING UP THE SUBJECT OF MENTAL HEALTH AND TALKED ABOUT MIA'S CORNER AND JUST TRYING TO CREATE A SORT OF AN ONGOING DIALOG BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND THE COUNCIL AND ALSO THE THE DISTRICT IS ALREADY DOING A LOT OF A LOT OF THINGS TO ADDRESS STUDENT MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS. BUT I THINK ONE THING I TOOK AWAY IS THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB OF PARTNERING WITH THEM AND COMMUNICATING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND MAYBE FILLING IN, WORKING TO PARTNER AND FILL IN GAPS IF THERE ARE THINGS THEY'D LIKE TO DO BUT CAN'T. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE. AND AGAIN, THANKS TO COUNCIL MEMBER STRONG CARNAHAN FOR FOR BEING A LEADER ON THAT ISSUE FROM THE DAIS HERE, I ALSO ATTENDED THE. SO THERE'S THAT PROPERTY, TIERRA WALK. IT'S CALLED. THERE'S THE POST OFFICE NEXT TO HOME DEPOT, AND IT USED TO BE SORT OF A LEASED OUT FARM, AND NOW IT'S A.

20. HOW MANY UNITS? IT'S MANY. 20 OR 30. 20 UNITS WITH I THINK FIVE AFFORDABLE. AND IT'S IT CAME TOGETHER REALLY NICELY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, YOU KNOW, ON LINCOLN AVENUE, IT'S AMAZING.

THEY HAVE THESE LIKE SOUNDPROOF WINDOWS. AND WHEN YOU'RE IN THOSE ROOMS, WHEN YOU'RE IN THOSE ROOMS, I COULDN'T HEAR A THING. AND I KNOW WE MENTIONED IT AT THE TIME, BUT THERE'S OFTEN TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN YOU LOOK UP THE PRICE AND IT'S $700,000 AND YOU SAY, THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE. BUT HERE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE UNITS THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE, YOU KNOW, 2 OR $300,000 RANGE. AND SO IF IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO, YOU KNOW, MAY BE LOOKING TO MOVE TO CYPRUS, I BELIEVE THAT MAY 30TH IS THE APPLICATION DEADLINE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE UNITS. I ALSO ATTENDED THE SENIOR CENTER VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO JESSIE HINES AND EXCELLENT SPEECH BY MAYOR PRO TEM CHANG. AND THEN I HAD A FEW OCFA MEETINGS, BUDGET MEETINGS, BOARD MEETINGS, AND THEN GOT THE HELMET ON THE DAIS.

SO IT'S INTERESTING. I'M ON THE OCFA BUDGET BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE, AND THEY HAVE JUST WHAT WE WERE

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AND THEN I WAS PRIVILEGED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FIRE OPS TRAINING RECENTLY. AND THAT'S BASICALLY THEY TAKE US ON ATHLETIC COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYBE SOME MEDIA MEMBERS, AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO PUT ON THE UNIFORM OF AN ORANGE COUNTY FIREFIGHTER AND GO THROUGH SOME OF WHAT THEY EXPERIENCE IN A GIVEN DAY. YOU DO THE, YOU KNOW, RAPPELLING OUT THE SIDE OF A BUILDING. YOU USE THE JAWS OF LIFE TO DO A VEHICLE EXTRACTION. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, LET'S JUST BE REAL. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY JAWS OF LIFE? THERE'S THESE TOOLS AND ONE OF THEM IS SPREADERS. ONE OF THEM'S CUTTERS, AND YOU'LL GO UP TO A VEHICLE, PUT THE SPREADER IN A WINDOW, YOU KNOW, PUSH A BUTTON. IT'S A HEAVY TOOL, AND THEN IT'LL JUST SPREAD THE CAR APART SO THAT IT CREATES AN OPENING SO THAT WHOEVER'S INSIDE THE CAR CAN GET OUT SAFELY. THEY HAVE THE CUTTERS. AND SO IT WAS JUST A FANTASTIC EXPERIENCE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN TELL I HAD A LOT OF FUN DOING IT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE THE BEST TAKEAWAY I HAD WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING ALL THESE DIFFICULT THINGS. OUR FIREFIGHTERS, THEY'RE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, WE PUT OUT A LIVE FIRE. IT'S HOT. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. YOU'RE WEARING HOWEVER MANY POUNDS OF GEAR, OXYGEN ON YOUR BACK. YOU'RE DOING THESE VEHICLE EXTRACTIONS. BUT AMIDST ALL THAT, I WAS AMAZED AT HOW THEY REALLY PRIORITIZED HOW THEY TREATED THE PEOPLE THEY WERE WORKING WITH. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT JUST TEACHING ME HOW TO USE THE JAWS OF LIFE, THEY'RE SAYING, YOU GOT TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE APPROACHING THIS PERSON, THEY'RE IN A TERRIFYING SITUATION. AND THEY DID SUCH A GOOD JOB OF TELLING US HOW THEY KEEP PEOPLE CALM. YOU COULD SEE HOW WELL TRAINED THEY ARE TO, YOU KNOW, HOOK SOMEONE UP TO A HARNESS. IMAGINE HOW SCARED THEY ARE TRYING TO CLIMB OUT OF A BURNING BUILDING. AND SO IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST PHYSICAL SKILL. THERE'S A LOT OF EMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING THAT GOES INTO THE JOB. AND SO I REALLY, I GAINED A GREAT APPRECIATION FOR THAT. AND SO THANK YOU TO OUR LOCAL 3631 AND THE ORANGE COUNTY FIRE AUTHORITY STAFF FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THAT. IF ANY OF YOU EVER GET THE CHANCE IN THE FUTURE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO OFFICIALLY, YOU KNOW, CONGRATULATE OUR NEW CITY MANAGER ON ALMOST A MONTH HERE. FIRST FIRST MEETING WENT OFF WITHOUT A HITCH SO FAR, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT'S IN STORE FOR THE LAST 15 MINUTES. BUT BUT APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. YEAH. BUT YEAH, WELCOME TO CYPRUS. AND I'VE HEARD GREAT THINGS FROM, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN ABLE TO INTERACT WITH YOU SO FAR. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DIVING IN HEAD FIRST. I KNOW THERE WAS KIND OF A LOT OF BIG THINGS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING. SO YOU GOT A TRIAL BY FIRE. THANK YOU. DOCTOR CHANG, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. I WENT TO THE ORANGE COUNTY MOSQUITO AND VECTOR CONTROL. THEY HAD A CHECK RECEPTION CEREMONY. US REPRESENTATIVE DEREK TRAN SECURED $500,000 IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE OC NVC. I WAS THE GUEST SPEAKER FOR THE PSYCHOLOGY CLUB PSI BETA AT CYPRESS COLLEGE. THE MAYOR AND I HAD A QUESTION AND ANSWER AT THE CITIZENS ACADEMY. THEY SEEM TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD GROUP. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST THIS PARTICULAR COHORT OR IF IT'S JASON MACHADO DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB LEADING THEM AND KEEPING THEM AWAKE. I WENT TO THE BRIDGES AT KRAMER PLACE, AND WE ARE EXITING FEWER FOLKS IN ORANGE COUNTY. IT'S HARDER TO FIND HOUSING. THERE'S FEWER FEWER VOUCHERS. THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY FOR PERMANENT HOUSING NOW IS 639 DAYS. SO ALMOST TWO YEARS TO GET PERMANENT HOUSING AT BRIDGES.

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MOSQUITO NUMBERS ARE ABOVE OUR FIVE YEAR AVERAGE AND INVASIVE ITEMS ARE HIGH FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR AND THEY'RE NOT USUALLY ACTIVE THIS THIS EARLY IN THE YEAR. SO WE'VE GOT MORE MOSQUITOES AND MORE VARIETIES OF MOSQUITOES THAT ARE ACTIVE, ACTIVE, UNUSUALLY EARLY. I'M ALSO PART OF THE LAB, THE EXECUTIVE BOARD FOR THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD DOING REALLY WELL. THEY HAVE $93 MILLION IN REVENUE, $84 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE $8 MILLION IN SURPLUS THIS YEAR. AND PART OF THIS REASON IS WHY IS BECAUSE IRVINE LEFT THE THE SYSTEM. AND SO OUR EXPENDITURES ACTUALLY DECREASE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE THREE IRVINE LIBRARY LIBRARIES. BUT THEY ALSO LEFT US $28 MILLION FOR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. SO THANK YOU, IRVINE. AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY HALF OF WHAT IRVINE PAYS FOR LIBRARIES GOES TO THE COUNTY SYSTEM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NO BIG IMPROVEMENTS SCHEDULED FOR CYPRUS. CYPRUS LIBRARY. BUT YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH A RENOVATION NOT TOO LONG AGO. SOMETHING SOMETHING I FOUND INTERESTING IS THAT THE VENDING MACHINE THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, IT'S GOING TO BE A VENDING MACHINE FOR BOOKS. I THINK. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PLACE IT ANYWHERE. THE FIRST ONE IS GOING UP IN TUSTIN SPORTS PARK, SO IT'S BACK ON TRACK. I WENT TO THE SENIOR CENTER VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION EVENT. SO CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO YOU FOR WINNING THE GRACE CHINA OUTSTANDING SENIOR RECOGNITION RECOGNITION AWARD. I WENT TO THE YOUTH CENTER, NIGHT OF STARS WITH THE MAYOR AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE STUDENTS NOMINATED FOR THAT AWARD. I SAT WITH TWO STUDENTS FROM CYPRESS HIGH SCHOOL. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH WHERE THEY'RE AT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SPEAKING FOR THEIR AGE. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM. IT LOOKS LIKE I MIGHT BE ON THEIR PANEL FOR LATER THIS WEEK AT CYPRESS HIGH SCHOOL. SO GOOD LUCK TO THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR CHANG. FOR ME. I ATTENDED THE WASTEWATER 101 CITIZEN'S ACADEMY GRADUATION AT OC SANITATION HEADQUARTERS ON MARCH 25TH. I ATTENDED THE OC TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY FORUM ON APRIL 1ST, HOSTED BY JANET NGUYEN WITH THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. I ATTENDED THE SPRING EGG HUNT ON APRIL 4TH, ALONG WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ATTENDED THE CERRITOS MAYORAL TRANSITION ON APRIL 8TH ALONG WITH W H. S ALUM COUNCIL MEMBER STRONG, WHICH IS THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL THAT THE MAYOR OF CERRITOS ATTENDED ON APRIL 14TH ATTENDED THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NETWORKING BREAKFAST AND ALSO THEN ATTENDED THE PACE GRADUATIONS AT MULTIPLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ARNOLD MORRIS, SANTA YNEZ, KING GRACE CHRISTIAN ATTENDED THE JFK SCHOLARSHIP FOUNDATION DINNER AT KNOTTS ON APRIL 11TH. ON. ON APRIL 19TH ATTENDED THE CYPRESS ART LEAGUE SPRING ART SHOW AND WAS VERY HUMBLED BY THE AMOUNT OF ART AND THE CALIBER OF ART THAT WAS PRESENTED. ALONG WITH OTHERS HERE IN THIS ROOM.

ATTENDED THE CITY COUNCIL AD HOC ANAHEIM UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT MEETING ON THE 20TH.

ON ALSO APRIL 20TH ATTENDED THE ORANGE COUNTY WOMEN'S BUSINESS CHAMBER INSTALLATION LUNCHEON IN THE GARDEN GROVE COMMUNITY CENTER ON APRIL 22ND. SPOKE AT THE CYPRESS CITIZENS ACADEMY AND. GREAT JOB, JASON ON DOING THAT. ON APRIL 23RD, ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER STRONG ATTENDED THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS SENT US ON A TOUR AND GUIDED US THROUGH THE MAJOR ITEMS COMING UP IN PREPARATION FOR THE BUDGET MEETING ON APRIL 24TH, WENT TO CYPRESS HIGH SCHOOL AND DID PHYSICS AND A BOAT AND THE POOL THERE

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IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S OUT OF SIGHT, AND I WOULD, I'M GUESSING 99% OF THE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT GOES ON THERE, AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE FROM THE SMELL BECAUSE I COULDN'T SMELL ANYTHING. YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE BECAUSE THE SEAGULLS ARE UP ARE LITERALLY DEALT WITH IN A VERY SMART AND STRATEGIC WAY. SO ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ON THERE, IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. THEN ALSO WITH MAYOR PRO TEM CHANG ATTENDED A NIGHT AMONG THE STARS, THE YOUTH CENTER THAT WAS HOSTED BY LASALLE CYPRESS AND SEAL BEACH ROTARY, AND WAS ALSO EQUALLY IMPRESSED BY THE CALIBER OF. OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ATTENDED CAPSTONE THIS MORNING AT CHS AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE THAT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE COMMISSION APPRECIATION RECEPTION, BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE EVERYTHING THE COMMISSIONERS DO. AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO APPLIED FOR UPCOMING POSITIONS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, AND WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY CINCO DE MAYO ON MAY 5TH, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN ALSO HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY ON MAY 10TH FOR ALL THE MOTHERS OUT THERE. SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE. AND THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. COUNCIL MEMBER

[ COUNCIL MEMBER ITEMS FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION]

THIS ONE SHOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG. I'M HOPING AT SOME POINT TO GET A PRESENTATION ON THE STATE OF THE BASEBALL SOFTBALL FIELDS AT OAK KNOLL PARK. I'VE GOTTEN QUITE A FEW COMPLAINTS FROM THE OTHER PARENTS ABOUT THE STATE OF THE FIELD, MOSTLY ABOUT THE NEED FOR LEVELING AND DRAINAGE ISSUES AFTER ANY KIND OF RAIN. I'VE HAD ONE PARENT SAY THAT THE ORGANIZATION IS JUST JUST NEEDS TO GET SOME GRANT MONEY TO LEVEL THE FIELDS. ANOTHER PARENT SAY THEIR ORGANIZATION IS TRYING TO RAISE $200 FOR FROM EACH PARENT. THE VAST MAJORITY OF PARENTS THINKS THAT IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, AND THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN LEVELING THE FIELDS. AND IT'S VERY HARD TO FOLLOW BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S MULTIPLE GROUPS INVOLVED AND THERE'S A JOINT FUND TOGETHER. SO I'M HOPING TO GET A PRESENTATION ON THIS, HOPEFULLY A LIST OF OPTIONS OF HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. ONE OF THEM BEING THAT THE CITY WOULD ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS AND LEVEL THE FIELDS. AND WE MIGHT NEED A MEETING WITH ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED. I KNOW DIRECTOR DRAPER AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT DRAINAGE AND THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING ADDING DRAINAGE TO THE PARKS, BUT AND IT MIGHT BE IT MIGHT BE A HAZARD, IT MIGHT BE DANGEROUS. SO BUT I DO WANT IT IN THE PRESENTATION. IT'S JUST AN OPTION. AND, AND JUST, JUST TO DOCUMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT. THERE'S NO REAL TIMELINE FOR THIS. NO RUSH. BUT I ASSUME THAT THIS WOULD HAVE THIS. ANY KIND OF CHANGES THAT WE DO TO OAK PARK WOULD HOPEFULLY HAPPEN BETWEEN BASEBALL SEASONS. OR IT MIGHT BE WHEN WE WHEN WE FINALLY WHEN WE FINALLY REINVENT REVAMP OAK PARK, THAT MIGHT BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THAT. SO DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, THEY'LL NEED TO BE A SECOND AND PARLIAMENTARIAN. PLEASE STEP IN A SECOND OF THIS. AND THEN ALSO BEFORE THAT, I ALSO WANT TO SEE IF THE REQUEST WAS CLEAR ENOUGH, CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND ALSO THE CITY STAFF.

SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT ON A FUTURE AGENDA, OR ARE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR STAFF IN DUE COURSE TO BRING BACK A REPORT? IF YOU WANT IT ON THE AGENDA, IT'LL NEED A SECOND. OKAY. NO, NO, I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THIS, SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT ON A PLATE, SO IN DUE COURSE IS FINE. OKAY, SO I THINK WE'RE ALL RIGHT, MAYOR. OKAY, OKAY. CITY MANAGER FINE. WITH THE USE OF CITY RESOURCES TO ADDRESS MAYOR PRO TEM REQUEST. SURE. I ACTUALLY HAVE NO IDEA AT THIS TIME WHEN OAK KNOLL IS UP FOR REVIEW AND AND POTENTIAL REHABILITATION. SO I'LL TALK WITH STAFF. AND IF WE NEED FURTHER CLARIFICATION, WE CAN PERHAPS DISCUSS THAT DURING OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN DISCUSSION IN ANOTHER COUPLE OF

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I THINK THIS USED TO BE BEFORE OUR CITY AFFILIATED BOARD AND COMMITTEE COUNCIL MEMBER REMARKS. HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT MOVING THAT AHEAD. THIS THIS ITEM COUNCIL MEMBER ITEMS FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEMBER REMARKS. OKAY. OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO ASK THAT. OKAY. BEFORE WE DO THAT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO DISCUSS? COUNCIL MEMBER NO, THAT'S IT. SO SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY PROPOSAL. MY PROPOSAL. OKAY. TO REQUEST. SO SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS CHANGING THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA WILL TAKE A RESOLUTION. WE'LL TAKE A RESOLUTION. RIGHT. SO IT'S IT'S IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS, BUT IT HAS TO BE ON THE AGENDA BEFORE WE DO THAT. OR DO WE DISCUSS IT NOW? NO, AND I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. YOU'LL NEED A SECOND. WE'LL BRING IT BACK AND SAY, DOES THE COUNCIL WANT TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA? IF THE COUNCIL GIVES US DIRECTION, WE'LL PREPARE A STAFF REPORT AND THE NECESSARY IMPLEMENTING LEGISLATION. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND PEOPLE PROBABLY ARE WONDERING, WHY AM I BEING SUCH A STICKLER ON THIS? AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE A, IT'S A RESOLUTION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A MINOR THING, IT'S ACTUALLY A MAJOR THING IN MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS CHANGING THE AGENDA DOES REQUIRE FURTHER DISCUSSION. SECOND, WHEN WE'RE AT THIS POINT IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WE CAN'T DISCUSS IN DEEP DETAIL ANY ITEM THAT HASN'T BEEN PRIOR PUT OUT THERE ON THE AGENDA. OTHERWISE, WE'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT OR A GOOD ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS, AND PROBABLY A TON OF OTHER THINGS ARE IN VIOLATION BY DOING THAT. WE SHOULDN'T DO IT. WE SHOULDN'T DO IT. SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO LIMIT THE RESPONSE AND HAVE TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT DOCTOR CHANG IS, IS SO IS YOUR REQUEST. YOU JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT OR WITHDRAW MY REQUEST. OKAY. THERE'S OTHER OTHER I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDER OR SUGGESTIONS THAT I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT ALTOGETHER. SO AT ANOTHER TIME, I'LL BRING IT UP AGAIN LATER. RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT TO BE DISMISSIVE OF YOUR REQUEST AT THE SAME TIME. SO IF YOU THINK THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP OR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU YOU ARE FEELING HEARD. SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? I'LL WAIT. I MEAN, WE WE'VE JUST STARTED THIS ORDER, THIS NEW ORDER RECENTLY. I'LL WAIT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROPER TIME TO PASS WHEN WE'VE ALL GOT A CHANCE TO GET USED TO IT AND SEE IF IF WE WANT TO MAKE ANY KIND OF CHANGES TO TO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE. OH, WAIT. OKAY. BECAUSE I COULD SAY, IS THERE A SECOND? AND DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ALSO TALK ABOUT ORDER OF THE AGENDA? AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE USE PUNS HERE, BUT DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO OR. I'LL GO AHEAD JUST BRING UP THAT I, I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN COMMENTS COME UP TOO. SO, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER, AFTER WE TRY THIS FOR A WHILE, I DON'T MIND TALKING ABOUT IT ALL AT ONCE, BUT I'LL SAVE IT FOR LATER. I DON'T MIND SAVING IT FOR LATER. SURE. OKAY. SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OTHERWISE? OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER BURKE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, MAYOR PRO TEM CHANG, IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER THAT SWITCH. I FEEL LIKE THAT'D BE PRETTY MINOR. AND I'M WILLING TO HEAR YOU OUT.

BUT IF YOU'D RATHER PONDER LARGER CHANGES THAN I DEFER TO YOU. SO YOU HAVE A SECOND FOR THE MINOR SWITCH IF YOU WANT IT, BUT IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S FINE. NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR. OKAY.

[ CITY MANAGER REMARKS]

COUNCIL MEMBER PETE. RIGHT NEXT TO COUNCIL MEMBER BURKE. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE RECOGNIZED THIS EARLIER IN OUR DISCUSSION WITH STEPHANIE. WE WILL NOT HAVE OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP ON THE 12TH. THAT WAS WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR BUDGET CALENDAR. BUT SINCE THEN, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS HAVE CHANGED TO TUESDAY, WHICH IS PUSHING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP TO WEDNESDAY. THAT WILL BE WEDNESDAY, MAY 13TH AT 5 P.M. WE WILL HAVE A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE THAT, SO WE WILL OFFICIALLY ADJOURN AT THAT POINT TO THAT THAT NEXT WORKSHOP. BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNEW, SINCE THE CALENDAR SAYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAN WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN THIS TIME. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY. I'M HAPPY NOT TO ATTEND THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. VERY WELL. AT THIS TIME. WE WILL ADJOURN. THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE AN ADJOURN REGULAR MEETING TO BE HELD ON

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