[1. CALL TO ORDER 5:30 P.M. Executive Board Room]
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          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED. MADAM CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL? COUNCILMEMBER PETE HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO PRESENT. AND MAYOR BURKE HERE. ALL PRESENT. THANK YOU. FIRST UP, I'D LIKE TO INVITE FATHER ASCHEN FROM SAINT IRENAEUS CHURCH FORWARD FOR INVOCATION THIS EVENING. LET US PUT OURSELVES UNDER THE PRESENCE OF GOD. GRACIOUS GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TO BE SEEKING YOUR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM AS WE DISCUSS THE IMPORTANT MATTERS OF OUR CITY. YOU ARE THE SOURCE OF ALL KNOWLEDGE. SO WE ASK YOU DIRECT OUR THOUGHTS AND OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS. HELP US TO LISTEN ATTENTIVELY TO ONE ANOTHER WITH OPEN HEARTS AND MINDS. WITH ALL THAT IS DONE HERE, BE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE ASK THIS. AMEN. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE HAND OVER YOUR HEART. 
          LET'S BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MR. CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE A REPORT OF CLOSED 
          [ REPORT OF CLOSED SESSION / WORKSHOP A report will be given by the City Attorney or City Manager.]
SESSION? CERTAINLY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND ALL THOSE PRESENT. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THIS SINGLE ITEM LISTED ON THE CLOSED SESSION PORTION OF THE AGENDA, NAMELY CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL. ONE ITEM OF EXISTING LITIGATION THE MATTER OF FRANCIS MARQUEZ VERSUS CITY OF CYPRUS AND ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUAL DEFENDANTS. CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED AN UPDATE AND NO FURTHER REPORTABLE ACTION 
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WAS TAKEN. THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THIS EVENING WITH A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS. AND FIRST UP, WE HAVE A VETERANS RECOGNITION PRESENTATION RECOGNIZING BRANT GONZALES. AND I'M HONORED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MR. GONZALES WITH YOU. 
          BRANT GONZALEZ IS A PROUD UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS VETERAN WHO HAS SPENT HIS LIFE IN SERVICE TO BOTH COUNTRY AND COMMUNITY. BRANT ENLISTED IN 1997 AND HONORABLY COMPLETED THREE OVERSEAS TOURS, INCLUDING COMBAT DEPLOYMENT TO IRAQ IN 2003, FOR WHICH HE RECEIVED THE COMBAT ACTION RIBBON, AS WELL AS THE NAVY AND MARINE CORPS ACHIEVEMENT MEDAL. BRANT THEN RETURNED HOME WITH A DEEP COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE SERVING, AND BECAME A MARINE CORPS RECRUITER BEFORE HE WAS HONORABLY DISCHARGED WITH A RANK OF SERGEANT IN 2005. IN 2006, BRANT JOINED THE LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHERE HE CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE MILITARY LIAISON OFFICER, ADVOCATING FOR VETERANS AND WORKING TO SUPPORT AND UPLIFT THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED. BRANT IS A DEVOTED HUSBAND AND LOVING FATHER WHOSE LIFE'S WORK ON THE BATTLEFIELD, IN HIS COMMUNITY AND WITHIN HIS OWN FAMILY, STANDS AS A TESTAMENT TO A LIFE OF COURAGE, COMMITMENT AND SELFLESS SERVICE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN HONORING BRANT GONZALES. 
          NOW, BRANT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAY A FEW WORDS OR NOT. AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU FORWARD INTO THE WELL FOR SOME PHOTOS. OH, YOU CAN STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK. FIRST OFF. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE BOTH MY COUNTRY AND COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR MY LOVING WIFE, MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS, MY FELLOW VETERANS, AND, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF CYPRESS FOR SUPPORTING THOSE WHO WORN AND WHO WEAR. NOW THE UNIFORM. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL JOIN YOU IN FRONT FOR A PHOTO. 
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WE'RE GOING TO HANG ON TO THIS. AND THIS IS GOING TO CITY HALL BEFORE WE GIVE IT TO YOU. AND. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OH, THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP, WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE APPRECIATION THIS EVENING. LAW ENFORCEMENT RECORDS AND SUPPORT PERSONNEL APPRECIATION WEEK IS ACTUALLY THIS WEEK. AND I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD NISHA BHAGAT, SUPPORT SERVICES SUPERVISOR, WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION. AND THEN. AND THEN. CHIEF, ARE YOU GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS? THANK YOU MAYOR. SO WITH THE PROCLAMATION TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO WORK BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, THE FACE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT RESPOND TO 911 CALLS IN THE BLACK AND WHITES, AND THEY GO OUT THERE AND THEY HANDLE BUSINESS EVERY SINGLE DAY. BUT REALLY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAYS RUNNING BECAUSE OF THE PERSONNEL BEHIND THE SCENES. AND THAT'S WHO'S BEING REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT. AND JUST GIVING THEM ONE WEEK OF HONOR TO ME IS IS GREAT. BUT REALLY THEY NEED TO BE HONORED EVERY DAY BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM, WE REALLY COULDN'T DO OUR JOB AND AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING WE DO TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY. SO I KNOW AND I SAY THIS NOT JUST FOR MYSELF, BUT FROM THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU TO OUR SUPPORT PERSONNEL WHO EVERY DAY COME TO WORK AND DO THE JOB BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE CONTINUE TO LIVE IN A SAFE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU, NISHA. AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND FOR PHOTOS? YEAH. I KNOW. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          [ ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS  (Three minutes per speaker. The City Council may adjust the time allotted per speaker.) The public may address the City Council on agenda items prior to any action taken. Although Council Members may provide brief responses, the City Council may not engage in a discussion with members of the public during the meeting. Please complete a Speaker's Card to address the City Council in-person. Please follow the instructions at the end of the agenda and wait for the Mayor/City Clerk to call on you to address the City Council virtually. Speakers providing in-person comments will be called first. Members of the public are encouraged to communicate with the City Council via email at citycouncil@cypressca.org or by calling 714-229-6699.]
THAT BRINGS US TO ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS. THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS PRIOR TO ANY ACTION TAKEN, ALTHOUGH COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY PROVIDE BRIEF RESPONSES, THE COUNCIL MAY NOT ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DURING THE MEETINGS. PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER'S CARD AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM THERE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN PERSON, OR FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA AND WAIT FOR THE MAYOR OR CITY CLERK TO CALL ON YOU TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL VIRTUALLY IN PERSON. 
          SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED ON FIRST, AND I HAVE A FEW CARDS. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WE ARE STILL USING THE PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY WHERE ITS COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS OR DURING THIS PERIOD AND GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS ARE IN THE FOLLOWING PERIOD. WE WON'T BE CHANGING OUR STRUCTURE TO WHAT WE PASSED UNTIL DECEMBER 8TH. I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE FIRST UP, I HAVE BROOKE NAVARETTE, WHO HAS TWO CARDS FOR AGENDA ITEMS, BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, THOSE WILL BE DURING THIS FIRST PERIOD. SO AND THEN. YES, HERE. SO PLEASE COME FORWARD. AND THEN I HAVE JOHN PETE NEXT. THIS IS FOR THE CLERK. TO HAND IT TO. THEY MIGHT. 
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THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A MATRIX OF WHEN ALL THE AGENDAS WERE SENT OUT. AND THEN THE SECOND DOCUMENT IS A LISTING OF ALL CITY MEETINGS, NONPROFIT MEETINGS. AND THIS WAS NOT DONE JUST BY ME. IT WAS THE HELP OF MANY RESIDENTS, QUITE A FEW OF THEM. SO IT'S NOT MY SOLE PROPRIETARY DOCUMENT THAT I CREATED BY MYSELF. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12. THE BASE WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1942 AS A NAVAL AIR RESERVE BASE, LOS ALAMITOS. THE VERY FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS HELD ON JULY 24TH, 1956. THIS WAS THE VERY FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THE CITY WAS NAMED DERRY CITY. THE VERY FIRST ORDINANCE PASSED WAS NUMBER ONE, ESTABLISHING THE COUNCIL MEETING, FOLLOWED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER SIX CONFIRMING THE DAY. FOR 89 YEARS OUR CITY HAS HAD MEETINGS ON MONDAY. OUR MAC AND WEST COMM. THERE'S A REASON WHY LOS ALAMITOS AND SEAL BEACH MEET ON MONDAYS. IT WAS BUILT AROUND THAT AT THE OCTOBER 13TH MEETING. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO PROPOSED MOVING COUNCIL MEETINGS BECAUSE FOR FEDERAL HOLIDAYS FALL ON MONDAY, RESEARCH SHOWS THAT IT'S ONLY TWO THAT WERE AFFECTED AND WHEN WE MOVED. SO REALLY IT'S ONLY ONE BEING COLUMBUS DAY THE NEXT TO GIVE RESIDENTS AND COUNCIL MORE TIME TO INTERACT WITH STAFF. MONDAYS ARE THE MOST STRESSFUL DAY, I AGREE, BUT IF WE GOT RID OF MONDAY THEN IT'S GOING TO BE TUESDAY. AN EXTRA DAY GIVES EVERYONE TIME TO REFLECT. OKAY, HOW CAN RESIDENTS REFLECT WHEN COUNCIL FAILED TO PROVIDE ANY ANALYSIS SUCH THAT LIST OF CITIES RELATED TO COMMUNITY RELATED MEETINGS AND AGENDA ATTACHMENTS? THERE'S BEEN NOTHING. WE HAD TO PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR YOU. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BY COUNCIL. SOME OF THE KEY POINTS STATED DURING THE OCTOBER 27TH MEETING, MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO STATED THAT HE SPOKE TO DIRECTORS AND THAT THERE WAS ALSO A CONFLICT WITH MONDAY MEETINGS. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SCHEDULE, THERE ARE NO MEETINGS ON MONDAY. THE SECOND AND FOURTH CITYWIDE DOESN'T EXIST. 
          THEN MAYOR BURKE STATED. YOU KNOW, HE WENT ON TO ELABORATE, STARTING FRESH. NO MONDAYS OR FRIDAYS. BUT HE SAID SOMETHING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME. IT STOOD OUT QUITE A LOT. THE MEETING 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE. IT'S ONLY COME OUT ON FRIDAYS FOUR TIMES IN THE PAST YEAR, AND IT WAS BEFORE 3 P.M. AND THEN HE TALKED ABOUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN DIFFERENT KIND OF STAGES OF LIFE. COUNCIL MEETING. COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE WELL AWARE OF THE MONDAY MEETING WHEN THEY RAN FOR OFFICE. AND THE STATEMENT DIFFERENT KIND OF STAGES OF LIFE. HONESTLY, THAT COULD WELL BE CONSIDERED INFLAMMATORY IF NOT A DISCRIMINATORY STATEMENT. AS A RESIDENTS, I ASK, DOES COUNCIL NOT WANT TO WORK FRIDAYS THROUGH MONDAY? DO YOU NOT WANT TO WORK AT ALL? YOU KNEW WHEN THE COUNCIL MEETINGS WERE ESTABLISHED. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR 69 YEARS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, JOHN. PETE FOLLOWED BY RACHEL CARNAHAN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON ITEM 13, CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY SAYING THAT I BELIEVE MAYOR BURKE HAS A MAJOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND HAS BEEN VERY HYPOCRITICAL ON THIS ISSUE. MAYOR BURKE FORMED A 500 AND 1C4 POLITICAL NONPROFIT IN 2016 CALLED CITIZENS TAKE ACTION. ONE OF THE STATED PURPOSES OF THIS ORGANIZATION IS TO GET BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS. HIS NONPROFIT IS SUPPORTED THROUGH DONATIONS AND THROUGH THE SALE OF MERCHANDISE FROM THE WEBSITE. IF CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM PASSES IN CYPRUS, MAYOR BURKE'S NONPROFIT STANDS TO GAIN ADDITIONAL SUPPORT THROUGH INCREASED DONATIONS FROM EXISTING DONORS BY GAINING NEW DONORS AND BY INCREASING SALES OF MERCHANDISE THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE. HOW CAN MAYOR BURKE POSSIBLY VOTE ON SOMETHING WHEN HIS ORGANIZATION STANDS TO BENEFIT FINANCIALLY? SECONDLY, ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE, DAVID BURKE FOR CYPRUS CITY COUNCIL DATED NOVEMBER 3RD, 2022, THE COUNCIL CANDIDATE, DAVID BURKE WROTE IT IS SAID THAT ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. THAT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHEN DECIDING WHO TO VOTE FOR. ANY CANDIDATE CAN TELL VOTERS WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR OR TALK ABOUT, WHAT A GREAT JOB THEY'LL DO 
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WHEN THEY GET IN OFFICE. BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW SOMEBODY, LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE. KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND A VOICE OF OC ARTICLE DATED APRIL 28TH, 2024. MAYOR BURKE SAYS KEEPING THE STATE SET LIMITS ON CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS CAN DIMINISH PUBLIC TRUST IN ELECTIONS. IN HIS 2022 CITY COUNCIL CAMPAIGN, MAYOR BURKE ACCEPTED THE STATE ALLOWED MAXIMUM OF $4,900 FROM A RESIDENT. SHOULD WE HAVE DIMINISHED TRUST IN MAYOR BURKE'S ELECTION BECAUSE HE ACCEPTED THE DONATION THAT HE NOW OPPOSES? IN THE SAME ARTICLE, MAYOR BURKE STATED LARGE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS LIKE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS OR LABOR UNIONS COULD HAVE MORE INFLUENCE OVER STAUNTON CITY OFFICIALS, POTENTIALLY LEADING TO LEGISLATION FAVORING CERTAIN CAMPAIGN DONORS. IN HIS 2022 CITY COUNCIL CAMPAIGN, MAYOR BURKE ACCEPTED A DONATION FROM THE BUILDING A STRONGER CALIFORNIA PAC SPONSORED BY THE SOUTHWEST REGIONAL COUNCIL OF CARPENTERS. IF MAYOR BURKE WAS TRULY CONCERNED ABOUT DONATIONS FROM LABOR UNIONS, WHY DID HE ACCEPT A DONATION FROM A LABOR UNION PAC FOR SIX YEARS PRIOR TO RUNNING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR BURKE WAS WORKING TO GET BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS. WHEN MAYOR BURKE HAD THE CHANCE TO LIVE BY THE COURAGE OF HIS CONVICTIONS AND SHOW THAT HE TRULY BELIEVED THE PURPOSE OF HIS NONPROFIT, HE FAILED. HE TOOK THE MONEY INSTEAD. IN 2022, MAYOR BURKE'S ACTION WAS TO TAKE THE BIG MONEY IN 24 AND 25. MAYOR BURKE IS TELLING US THAT BIG MONEY IN POLITICS IS BAD, AND WE NEED TO PUT LIMITS ON IT, REMEMBER? MAYOR BURKE'S STATEMENT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT SOMEBODY IS LOOKS LIKE, EXCUSE ME, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW SOMEBODY, LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON MAYOR BURKE'S ACTION OF TAKING THE MONEY, NOT ON HIS WORDS. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, RACHEL CARNAHAN, FOLLOWED BY MARILYN REAMS. HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RACHEL CARNAHAN, FORMERLY STRONG. AND I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CURRENTLY VACATED COUNCIL SEAT. I'VE LIVED MOST OF MY LIFE IN CYPRUS. I GREW UP GOING TO CYPRUS SCHOOLS AND PLAYING YOUTH SPORTS HERE. I WENT TO CYPRUS COLLEGE. I LEFT CYPRUS TO GRADUATE ELSEWHERE, BUT THEN RETURNED TO THE CITY TO START A BUSINESS, TO RAISE A FAMILY AND TO CARE FOR MY AGING PARENTS. I FEEL A LOT OF THE SUCCESS OF WHO I'VE BECOME IS ROOTED IN THE CITY THAT I WAS PRIVILEGED TO GROW UP IN. I'M THE OWNER OF THE LOCAL DANCE STUDIO. I PRIDE MYSELF ON CONNECTING OUR COMMUNITY'S KIDS WITH THE PERFORMING AND FINE ARTS. WE SERVE A THOUSAND KIDS A YEAR, AND WE PERFORM MULTIPLE PERFORMANCES A YEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS IN TWO CAMPUSES NOW, AND WE EMPLOY 23 PEOPLE IN THE CITY. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT THAT, BUT TO ALSO THINK ABOUT THAT. THE REASON I WOULD WANT TO SERVE THE CITY, WHICH EXTENDS BEYOND THAT AND INTO THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S AHEAD FOR US JUST NOW, I HAVE RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL IN THIS CITY TWICE. I HAVE BEEN NOT ELECTED TWICE. 
          BUT ON MY LATEST ATTEMPT, I CAME IN FIRST RUNNER UP FOR THE POSITION AND I WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED IF I WERE ABLE TO DO SO. AND I WOULD GET TO STOP LISTENING TO MY FRIENDS JOKES ABOUT ALWAYS BEING A BRIDESMAID, NEVER A BRIDE. I REALLY THINK THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE FACING SOME IMPORTANT ISSUES IN THE CITY OF CYPRUS. WE'RE RECONSIDERING OUR GREEN SPACE. I HAVE THE UNIQUE VALUE PROPOSITION OF HAVING A TEENAGE SON, WHICH IS JUST AS FUN AS IT SOUNDS. AND I'M THINKING THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO SERVE THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF OUR TEENS IN THIS COMMUNITY BY THINKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE USING THAT SPACE FOR RECREATION AND ENTERTAINMENT THAT IS SAFE. I THINK SOMEWHERE IN THERE IS MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE SOME OF THE TENSION WE'RE SEEING BETWEEN LOCAL MOTORISTS AND BIKERS. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES AT HAND. WE HAVE AN AGGRESSIVE HOUSING MANDATE FROM SACRAMENTO, AND WHILE WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SENIORS AND YOUNG FAMILIES, WE HAVE TO BALANCE THAT AGAINST OUR DESIRE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY FROM CONGESTION AND PRESERVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE AN IMMINENT DECISION TO HIRE A NEW CITY MANAGER AND TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN SOMEBODY AMAZING WHOSE CAREFUL DECISION MAKING AND THOUGHTFUL LEADERSHIP WILL STAND TO IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. SO I WOULD BE HONORED TO BE PART OF THAT DECISION. I'D BE DELIGHTED TO SERVE THE CITY THAT HAS GIVEN SO MUCH TO ME, AND I'D BE THRILLED TO WORK WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IF THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED ITSELF. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT, MARILYN REAMS, FOLLOWED BY ANNE MALLORY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WANT TO SPEAK TO ITEM 12. I SPOKE TO THIS LAST TIME. I HAVE WRITTEN A LETTER TO THE COUNCIL. I CANNOT I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE FOR ME TO COMMUNICATE MORE STRONGLY HOW I OPPOSE ANY, ANY CHANGE TO 
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THE DAY OF THIS COUNCIL MEETING. I FIND IT OFFENSIVE. I FIND IT DISHEARTENING. I AM, AS I WAS DRIVING UP HERE AND WALKING UP THE STEPS AND I THOUGHT, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FAITHFULLY EVERY TWO WEEKS FOR OVER FIVE YEARS. I AM A FAITHFUL ATTENDER. I CARE ABOUT MY CITY AND THE ISSUES THAT COUNCILMAN MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO BROUGHT UP HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. IT'S ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED. WE ALREADY KNOW BECAUSE OUR CITY MANAGER ASSURED US, ALL OF US, THAT THEY CAN GET THE AGENDA OUT SOONER. SO THE ARGUMENT THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME ON A FRIDAY. IS GONE, THAT THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT. SO I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT YOU NOT REMOVE THIS ABILITY FOR ME, BECAUSE I CAN'T COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS ANYMORE. AND THAT MEANS SOMETHING I CAN'T PARTICIPATE VIA VIDEO BECAUSE I HAVE COMMITMENTS. I HAVE HUGE COMMITMENTS. WE HAVE LIVES OUTSIDE OF THIS, BUT I HAVE SET ASIDE THIS DAY AND THIS TIME ALWAYS, TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE A PRIORITY. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE PRIORITY FOR ME, AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO CHANGE THIS DAY. IT'S WRONG. IT'S ABSOLUTELY WRONG. AND THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING NO GOOD REASON HAS BEEN GIVEN TO DISRUPT THE LIVES OF MOST OF THE CITIZENS OF CYPRUS AND THE STAFF. I IT JUST BOGGLES MY MIND. WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS, AND I PRAY THAT YOU WILL NIX THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY HAD I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS THAT BROUGHT THIS UP, BUT PLEASE, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKES, DON'T DO IT. 
          PLEASE. AND MALLORY FOLLOWED BY PEARL. BOLTER. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. MY NAME IS ANNE MALLORY, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS MY INTEREST IN SERVING THE REMAINDER OF COUNCIL MEMBER MONICA'S TERM. 
          I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF SERVING THIS CITY. ONE YEAR AS MAYOR, ONE YEAR AS MAYOR PRO TEM, IN TWO YEARS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED. I'VE CONTINUED TO STAY ACTIVELY ENGAGED, ATTENDING OR WATCHING EVERY COUNCIL MEETING THIS YEAR AND THOROUGHLY READING EVERY AGENDA. BECAUSE OF THAT CONTINUITY, I AM VERY PREPARED TO STEP SEAMLESSLY INTO THE ROLE AND SERVE EFFECTIVELY FROM DAY ONE. MY APPROACH TO PUBLIC SERVICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN GROUNDED IN THREE PRIMARY PRINCIPLES. FIRST, LISTEN, LEAD, AND IN THE PROCESS, LIFT OTHERS UP. I LISTEN CAREFULLY TO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES SO THAT DECISIONS REFLECT THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I LEAD COLLABORATIVELY, WORKING WITH COLLEAGUES, STAFF AND REGIONAL PARTNERS TO FIND COMMON GROUND. I LEAD COLLABORATIVELY EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE, AND I STRIVE TO LIFT OTHERS UP BY ENSURING THAT OUR POLICIES, OUR PROGRAMS AND OUR INVESTMENTS IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYONE WHO CALLS CYPRUS HOME. I BRING DEEP BUDGET AND STRATEGIC PLANNING EXPERIENCE. HAVING PARTICIPATED IN MULTIPLE CITY BUDGET CYCLES, AND I HELPED SHAPE THE CITY'S MISSION, VISION AND THREE YEAR GOALS. 
          PROFESSIONALLY, I'VE LED NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WITH MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR BUDGETS. 
          I'VE MANAGED LARGE AND SMALL TEAMS, AND I'VE IMPLEMENTED DATA DRIVEN SYSTEMS TO ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY AND FISCAL STABILITY. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT PART OF MY LIFE, IN PARTICULAR MY 27 YEARS AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF CYPRUS FROM CYPRUS SCHOOL DISTRICT PTA TO SERVING AS THE CEO OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, TO MY ONGOING INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE ROTARY CLUB, I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT STRONG COMMUNITIES ARE BUILT THROUGH SERVICE, INCLUSION AND SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE CEO OF WE CARE ORANGE COUNTY, AND I AM A COMMISSIONER FOR THE ORANGE COUNTY COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN AND GIRLS. I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, 
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AND I OFTEN SAY OUR PURPOSE IS TO HELP ONE ANOTHER. THAT BELIEF HAS GUIDED MY PUBLIC SERVICE AND AT WHAT? AND IT IS WHAT MOTIVATES ME TO SEEK THIS APPOINTMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. PEARL BOLTER FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE WADE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON TWO ITEMS, NUMBER 12 AND NUMBER 13. SO FOR ITEM NUMBER 12 I'M SUPPORTING KEEPING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ON MONDAY. BUT IF THAT IS NOT THE OPTION, I SUPPORT WEDNESDAYS DUE TO THE CONFLICT THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS WITH TUESDAYS, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED TO CHANGE THE CITY COUNCIL DATE. I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW IT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA OVER THESE PAST FEW WEEKS IS THAT IT HASN'T BEEN TRANSPARENT, BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THINGS ON THE AGENDA, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A REPORT ATTACHED WHICH PROVIDES A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF WHY THIS IS EVEN GOING ON. AND IT GIVES US REASONS. AND IT, YOU KNOW, MENTIONS THAT THE ORDINANCE HAS TO BE UPDATED. IT'S JUST KIND OF A SUMMARY THING. AND THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ATTACHED TO THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION. AND I THINK YOU'VE NOTICED THAT IT HAS CREATED SOMEWHAT OF A CONCERN AMONGST MANY RESIDENTS. AND SO I BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENT DAYS, AND HOW THAT DIFFERENT DAYS IMPACT THE RESIDENTS, IMPACT NONPROFITS, IMPACT BUSINESSES, ALL THE MINUTES AND AGENDAS. WE ARE ON THE CITY WEBSITE. AND SO YOU COULD HAVE DETERMINED THAT THIS HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR 69 YEARS. SO AFTER 69 YEARS, YOU GOT TO IMAGINE THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME ISSUE WITH CHANGING AND MAYBE A TRANSITION TIME WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. AND SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS, BUT IT DESERVED MORE THAN WHAT IT GOT. SO ON THE ITEM OF NUMBER 13, THERE'S EVERY LIKELIHOOD THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM WOULDN'T EVEN BE ON OUR CITY AGENDA IF IT WASN'T FOR MARY BURKE'S VIRAL WNK4, WHO BASICALLY THIS HAS BEEN HIS WORLD, I THINK, SINCE 2016, PROMOTING CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. AND IN 2022, HIS GROUP PUT OUT A REPORT THAT BASICALLY GAVE CYPRUS AN F ON CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. AND SO I THINK THERE'S MANY OTHER THINGS THAT THIS CITY IS SHOULD BE DEALING WITH. AND THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. WE HAVE JUST SWITCHED OVER TO DISTRICTS. IT DESERVES DISTRICTS TO GO THROUGH A FULL FIVE DISTRICT. BEFORE WE ACTUALLY EVEN GO INTO THIS THING, BECAUSE EVERYBODY DESERVES TO HAVE WHAT IS BEEN ON THE BOOKS ALREADY, AND THAT'S STATE REQUIRED. AND IT'S NOT ILLEGAL LIKE I SAW ON ONE OF THE SLIDES. AND SO THE STATE REQUIREMENTS ARE SUFFICIENT. 
          AND WE NEED TO AT LEAST LET 2026 GO THROUGH SO WE CAN GET ALL THE DISTRICTS ON THROUGH THIS ELECTION WITH THE EXISTING CAMPAIGN FINANCE RULES. THANK YOU. STEPHANIE WADE FOLLOWED BY EDWIN KRAMER. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE WADE. I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR. I LIVE IN SEAL BEACH, AND I CAME HERE THIS EVENING BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS YOUR DISTRICT FIVE VACANCY, AND I CAME BECAUSE I'M CLOSE FRIENDS WITH DOCTOR MARQUEZ. AND SHE'S THE QUITE LITERALLY THE KINDEST, MOST SELFLESS PERSON I KNOW. AND THINKING HOW QUALIFIED SHE IS. I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THE CITY COULD CHOOSE A BETTER PERSON TO STEP INTO THIS NOT ONLY READY, BUT REALLY SOMEBODY WHO REALLY WANTS TO HELP THE CITY THAT SHE GREW UP IN. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. EDWIN KRAMER, FOLLOWED BY DOCTOR FRANCIS MARQUEZ. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BURKE AND COUNCIL. THANKS FOR HEARING ME. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT. THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE OPEN CITY COUNCIL SEAT. I SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION AND IT'S FAIRLY COMPLETE. I HAVE A FEW POINTS TO ADD. THREE POINTS. 
          FIRST, I'VE LIVED IN CYPRUS AS RESIDENT HOMEOWNER SINCE 2001. TWO DAUGHTERS THROUGH THE CYPRUS SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THE EXTRACURRICULARS AND COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES THERE ARE SUCCESSFULLY IN COLLEGE NOW. SECOND, SORT OF A SAPPY STORY. SAPPY STORY. I WAS RAISED IN PLACENTIA AND AND I USED TO WAKE UP ON A COUCH WHERE MY PARENTS PLAYED BRIDGE IN CYPRUS WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD. IN PLACENTIA, WE HAD 100 ACRE WOOD, AND WE CALLED IT THE FROG POND, AND WE USED TO BUILD HUCK FINN RAFTS THERE. AND BEHIND ME WAS AVOCADO TREES, AND WE WOULD 
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BUILD TUMBLEWEED FORTS AND. AND SO WHEN I SEE CYPRUS TURN OVER PS ONE ZONED LAND OPEN SPACE TO DEVELOPER PRIVATE ZONED FOR FREE, I GET INVOLVED. AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SAY THAT IT'S KIND OF CORNY, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M SO ADAMANT. WHENEVER WE START CHANGING OUR ZONES OF PS ONE. BECAUSE THE PS ONE ZONES ARE THE CITIZENS AND THEY NEED TO BE PROTECTED. AND FINALLY, AS A YOUNG MAN. SO THIS IS BEFORE MY COMPUTER SCIENCE CAREER, AND IT'S PERTINENT TO BUSINESS IN CYPRUS. I UNDERSTAND SMALL BUSINESS AND I'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE EXPLAIN A LITTLE STORY. IT'S NOT MY RESUME. AS A YOUNG MAN HELPED MY FATHER BUILD A PRINTED CIRCUIT FACTORY IN ANAHEIM, CALIFORNIA. IT WAS 14,000FT■!S. WE HAD 3000 GALLONS OF ACID COPPER PLATING, 300 GALLONS OF GOLD PLATE. WE HAD IMAGING FOR CIRCUITS AND NOMENCLATURE, COMPLETE FAB OPERATION. AND IN THE 80S, WHEN CAL EPA CAME IN WITH COMMAND AND CONTROL REGULATIONS, I GOT A HAZMAT CERT FROM UCI AND BECAME A DIRECTOR OF SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS FOR SEVERAL LARGER BOARD HOUSES IN CALIFORNIA, AND THEN WITH ENDORSEMENTS FROM INSURANCE AGENTS. I WENT TO CONSULTING. IN SHORT, I UNDERSTAND SMALL BUSINESS AND THE STRUGGLES THAT THEY HAVE. SO I'M PRO SMALL BUSINESS. SOMETIMES I COME IN AND I ARGUE, AND IT'S REALLY BECAUSE THE OTHER STORY ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE. BUT I UNDERSTAND SMALL BUSINESS. SO YOU HAVE QUITE A LIST OF CANDIDATES APPLICANTS DON'T ENVY IN YOUR CHOICE. AND I THINK CYPRUS IS LUCKY. SO GREAT LIST. SO ON ITEM 13 I THINK IT WAS I BELIEVE WE NEED CAMPAIGN REFORM. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH TAKING DONATIONS FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THEM FROM DEVELOPERS AND THE TRASH CONTRACTOR AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE. SO LET'S LOOK AT IT. THANKS, DOCTOR. FRANCIS MARQUEZ, FOLLOWED BY JOHN WEST. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DOCTOR FRANCIS MARQUEZ, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A CANDIDATE SEEKING APPOINTMENT TO FILL THE VACANCY IN MY HOME COUNCIL, DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE, WHERE I WAS RAISED AND MY FAMILY HAS LIVED SINCE 1974. THIS APPOINTMENT TO THE COUNCIL OFFERS OUR CITY AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE A FAIR, REPRESENTATIVE AND EQUITABLE COUNCIL DURING A CRITICAL TRANSITION. I BRING TO THIS ROLE A LIFETIME OF SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP ROOTED IN THIS COMMUNITY. I'M A TENURED PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE WHO HAS TAUGHT THE DEAF AND HARD OF HEARING, AND IS A FORMER LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR IN CONGRESS. I'VE SPENT MY CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE, CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS, WORKING FAMILIES, SENIORS, VETERANS, AND SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          MY GUIDING PRINCIPLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SIMPLE EVERYONE DESERVES A FAIR SHOT AT THE TABLE WHEN DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY ARE MADE. THIS ISN'T JUST SOMETHING I TALK ABOUT, IT'S HOW I'VE LIVED MY LIFE AND APPROACHED EVERY ROLE I'VE HELD. I BELIEVE THAT A CITY COUNCIL MUST NOT ONLY MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, IT MUST ALSO LEAD BY EXAMPLE WITH HONESTY AND GENUINE CARE FOR THE PEOPLE WE SERVE. I BRING DEEP EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE. 
          HAVING BEEN ELECTED CITYWIDE AND BRINGING EXTENSIVE EDUCATION AND POLICY EXPERIENCE FROM WORKING IN GOVERNMENT, MY RECORD OF SERVICE HAS CREATED TANGIBLE BENEFITS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. MOREOVER, MY HEART AND MY WORK HAVE PRODUCED RESULTS FOR CYPRUS. STUDENTS AND FAMILIES HAVE GAINED GREATER ACCESS TO LIFE CHANGING OPPORTUNITIES. DUE TO MY WORK AND SECURING $50 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR THE STARBASE YOUTH, YOUTH STEM EDUCATION PROGRAM, MY LIFE EXPERIENCES HAVE STRENGTHENED MY COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THAT EVERY RESIDENT, NO MATTER THEIR BACKGROUND, HAS A VOICE IN THIS CITY. AS THE DAUGHTER OF FARMERS WHO OVERCAME TREMENDOUS CHALLENGES, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF PERSEVERANCE AND CREATING PATHWAYS FOR ALL TO SUCCEED. THIS PERSPECTIVE DRIVES MY DEDICATION TO EXPANDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL CYPRUS RESIDENTS. I PUT CYPRUS RESIDENTS FIRST AND I STAND HERE TODAY READY AND COMMITTED TO CONTINUE THE IMPORTANT WORK OF SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. MY DEDICATION TO OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES REMAINS UNWAVERING BECAUSE I BELIEVE DEEPLY IN CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERY CHILD AND EVERY FAMILY TO THRIVE. I'M HERE TO CONTINUE BUILDING THE FOUNDATION THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED TOGETHER, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN TO THE COUNCIL AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF CYPRUS. MY COMMITMENT IS TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH EACH ONE 
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OF YOU, BRINGING MY EXPERIENCE AND PASSION FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. I'D BE HONORED TO WORK WITH YOU AND CONTINUE SERVING THE PEOPLE OF CYPRUS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR TRUST, AND YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. JOHN WEST, FOLLOWED BY BETH CULVER. GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE ON POSITION NUMBER 11. MY NAME IS JOHN WEST, AND I'M HERE TO STRONGLY RECOMMEND CLAUDIA NAZZARI FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE OPEN CITY COUNCIL SEAT. HAVING KNOWN HER FOR MANY YEARS, I CAN SAY WITHOUT HESITATION THAT SHE EMBODIES THE INTEGRITY, DEDICATION AND LEADERSHIP QUALITIES THAT OUR CITY DESERVES. CLAUDIA IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF A PROUD CYPRUS CITIZEN. SHE HAS DEEP ROOTS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND HAS CONTINUOUSLY DEMONSTRATED HER COMMITMENT THROUGH COUNTLESS HOURS OF VOLUNTEERISM AND SERVICE. SHE'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO CALL AN ETERNAL VOLUNTEER, THE PERSON WHO QUIETLY STEPS UP WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AND FOLLOWS THROUGH UNTIL IT'S COMPLETE. SHE'S THE TYPE OF LEADER WHO CARES ABOUT GETTING THINGS DONE, AND NOT ABOUT THE CREDIT FOR THE WORK THAT GETS THINGS DONE. WHEN I SAY SHE GETS THINGS DONE, I MEAN IT. RECENTLY, CLAUDIA BROUGHT ATTENTION TO AN UNEVEN PAVEMENT AT THE SENIOR CENTER, A REAL SAFETY CONCERN THAT COULD HAVE CAUSED FALL AND EVEN A CITY LIABILITY. SHE SPOKE IMMEDIATELY WITH JEFF DRAPER, THAT IS, AND SHARED HER CONCERNS VOICED BY MANY SENIORS, AND WITHIN A DAY OR TWO, THE AREA WAS SHAVED DOWN AND SMOOTHED OUT. SAFETY WAS RESTORED, WAS RESTORED BECAUSE SHE NOTICED AND TOOK ACTION. SHE ALSO HELPED RESOLVE AN ONGOING ISSUE OF INADEQUATE LIGHTING AT THE SENIOR CENTER PARKING LOT, WHERE SOME FALLS HAD TAKEN PLACE DUE TO SOME DIM LIGHTING. SHE RECOMMENDED SOLAR LIGHTING TO LOWER COSTS AND GET THAT RESOLVED. THAT WAS DONE WITHIN THREE DAYS AND IT'S MUCH BRIGHTER OVER THERE. SHE'S DISCUSSED THE IDEA WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, AS SHE IS A SENIOR COMMISSIONER LIAISON, I BELIEVE, AND THE ISSUE WAS ADDRESSED. WE APPRECIATE HER OVER AT THE SENIOR CENTER. BUT CLAUDIA'S LEADERSHIP ISN'T ONLY ABOUT FIXING PROBLEMS, IT'S ABOUT CARING FOR PEOPLE. WHEN SENIORS ARE MISSING FROM THEIR USUAL CLASSES, LUNCHES OR BINGO. SHE'S THE ONE THAT SENDS CARDS MAKING CALLS JUST TO CHECK IN TO SEE IF THEY'RE OKAY, AND LET THEM KNOW THEY ARE MISSED AND OFFER HELP IF NEEDED. THAT'S WHO SHE IS. SHE LISTENS, SHE LEADS, AND SHE ACTS, AND SHE ALWAYS PUTS THE WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS FIRST. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY URGE YOU TO APPOINT CLAUDIA AZARI TO THIS COUNCIL SEAT. SHE REPRESENTS THE BEST OF CYPRUS, SOMEONE WHO WILL LISTEN, ACT AND SERVE WITH BOTH HEART AND INTEGRITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. BETH CULVER. AND THEN THAT'S THE LAST IN-PERSON SPEAKER CARD I HAVE FOR AGENDA, OR PERHAPS MORE BETH CULVER AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHO'S NEXT. GREETINGS. I THIS AFTERNOON I HAPPEN TO WATCH THE WW TWO WORLD WAR VIDEO OF THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN. AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THESE PILOTS SAID, I WANT TO CHANGE MY DAY OFF. I WANT THREE DAYS OFF. I DON'T WANT TO COME IN ON MONDAY. THERE ARE OVER 50,000 CITIZENS IN CYPRUS, AND THE THREE OF YOU HAVE WANTED TO CHANGE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR MONDAY TO A TUESDAY FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL REASONS, EVEN HAVING TO GET PERMISSION FROM YOUR WIFE. I FORGOT TO GET PERMISSION FROM MY CAT TODAY, AND IN ALL MY DECADES OF EXPERIENCE ON PLANET EARTH AND YEARS OF FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC SERVICE AND TRAVELS, I HAVE NEVER WITNESSED SUCH UNPROFESSIONAL BEHAVIOR FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO SERVE ITS CITIZENS. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THAT YOU WERE ELECTED BY AND FOR US, NOT FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE. SHAME ON YOU. SUPPOSE THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND EMTS, HOSPITAL NURSES, DOCTORS SAID, I DON'T WANT TO WORK ON MONDAY. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO ANY LIFE SAVING SURGERIES. I WANT TO CAMPAIGN. I WANT TO GO ON A VACATION, AND I WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RUSH BACK TO GO TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. I REALLY HAVE TO ASK MY WIFE. SUPPOSE OUR MILITARY, THE ARMY, THE NAVY OR MARINE, THE CAPTAIN OF A SHIP, OR THE COMMANDER OF OUR ARMED FORCES IN THE MIDST OF THE BATTLE SAID, SORRY, NOT TODAY. I WANT MONDAYS OFF. I ONLY WANT TO WORK FOUR DAYS A WEEK. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT I WANT TO DO ON MONDAYS. HOW ABOUT A FIREMAN WHO SAYS, NOPE, CAN'T PUT THAT FIRE OUT TODAY BECAUSE I WANT A THREE DAY WEEKEND OR OTHER PLANS I NEED TO, OR I NEED TO CAMPAIGN, OR I NEED TO ASK MY WIFE. WHATEVER YOUR REASON, I EVEN HAVE TO ASK MY MY MOTHER. I ONLY HAVE I ONLY. OR HOW ABOUT ASKING A PARENT WHO SAYS, OH, I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO, MOM, I DON'T WANT TO WORK ON MONDAY. I'M ONLY GOING TO WORK FOUR DAYS A WEEK. ESPECIALLY. I WANT MONDAYS OFF. THIS IS A FECKLESS EXAMPLE TO SET FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR FAMILY OF WHAT IT MEANS TO REALLY TO BE A SERVANT TO YOUR COMMUNITY. SHAME ON YOU. I HAVE THE 14TH. 
          I HAVE ANOTHER ONE, BUT I HAVE TO DO IT. COME BACK AND DO IT. IF IT'S ON AN AGENDA ITEM, THEN YOU CONTINUE DURING THIS PERIOD, UNLESS IT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T HAVE TIME. WE GOT 52 SECONDS LEFT. BUT YOU DIDN'T TIME THE OTHER TWO. WHAT ON EARTH DO YOU THINK THIS IS 
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ABOUT? AGENDA 13? WHAT ON EARTH? THIS BLOWS MY MIND, DO YOU THINK? WHO ARE. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DECEIVING WITH YOUR DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST AGENDA BY CALLING IT CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM REFORM RHETORIC. IT'S PURE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED FINANCING. NO MATTER WHAT YOU CALL IT, IT IS WELL DEFINED IN YOUR CITIZENS MANIFESTO, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT IT DERIVED FROM. WE DO NOT NEED CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. THE THE ACT CLEARLY SETS LIMITS ON HOW AND HOW AND WHICH. AND NOW, EXCUSE ME, SETS LIMITS ON WHICH AND HOW IT EXTENDS TO OUR LOCAL ELECTIONS. DONATIONS ARE AND PERHAPS THEY MIGHT INTERFERE WITH YOUR PLANS LIKE THE LIMITS THAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND THAT YOU SHOULD BE RECUSING YOURSELF WHEN CERTAIN ITEMS ARE BROUGHT UP AND YOU DON'T. PLEASE FINISH YOUR THOUGHT. WE'VE EMBARRASSED. 
          IT'S BEEN EMBARRASSING TO HAVE A MAYOR WHO'S GONE TO OTHER CITIES TO GET ELECTION CAMPAIGN FINANCING. OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE ALSO ONTO YOUR SHENANIGANS, BUT JUST REMEMBER, IT'S THE PEOPLE YOU SAY YOU'VE TALKED TO. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST IN YOUR FEW FEW COMMUNITY PEOPLE. BUT THERE'S A LONG TIME RESIDENTS AND PATRIOTS OF CYPRUS THAT HAVE FAR DIFFERENT OPINION ABOUT CHANGING SOMETHING TO MEET YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA. GLENN BUTTON FOLLOWED BY ORCHID ROCHA. GOOD EVENING, ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. JUST SOME QUICK COMMENTS. GOT TOO MANY OTHER PAPERS IN HERE. AS A RESIDENT, AS A CITIZEN AND AS A TAXPAYER, AND ALSO AS A FORMER CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATE, I WANT ZERO TAX DOLLARS TO BE LAVISHED ON ANY CANDIDATES. 
          ZERO. IF CANDIDATES ARE WORTHY. GENEROUS SUPPORT IS AVAILABLE FROM LOCAL RESIDENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS. WE DON'T NEED TO THROW TAX DOLLARS AT THIS. EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF OUR CURRENT CITY COUNCIL HAS ACCEPTED DONATIONS WHICH WOULD VIOLATE THOSE PROPOSED IN THE PRESENTATION. WE'LL SEE LATER THIS EVENING. THESE THOSE LIMITS SUGGESTED IN THE THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE DISCUSSION. THIS PRESENTATION APPEARS TO BE A SOLUTION IN IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE EXISTS. YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ELECTED, INCLUDING OUR CURRENT COUNCIL, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM I'M NOT AWARE OF. ONE, THE PRESENTATION PURPORTS TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY, BUT THEN MAKES UNSUBSTANTIATED ACCUSATIONS OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. THAT'S A PROBLEM. BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH CAMPAIGN FINANCE. THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH MAKING ALLEGATIONS WITH NO BACKUP. THE IMPORTANT LEGAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN CAMPAIGN DONATIONS ON ONE HAND AND INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE'S AN IMPORTANT LEGAL DISTINCTION WHICH IS COMPLETELY MISSING FROM THE PRESENTATION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BECAUSE OF IGNORANCE OR IF IT WAS BECAUSE OF WILLFUL NEGLECT, BUT IT'S NOT IN THERE. ALSO GLARING IN ITS OMISSION ARE ANY LIMITS ON CONTRIBUTIONS FROM UNIONS. THAT'S A CONCERN. THROWING TAXPAYER DOLLARS AT CANDIDATES INVITES FRAUD BY INSINCERE CANDIDATES. IF I JUST SAY, YEAH, I'LL RUN, I'LL ACCEPT THE TAX DOLLARS, AND THEN I'LL KNOCK ON THREE DOORS. THAT'S NOT REALLY A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER DONATIONS. SO THE CITY OF STAUNTON RECENTLY REJECTED THIS PROPOSAL, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALSO TO MAKE THE SAME WISE CHOICE TO SAY NO TO THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ORCHID ROCHA, FOLLOWED BY DOCTOR CHRISTOPHER PACK. CAN YOU STOP? ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          AS A RESIDENT OF CYPRUS FOR 22 YEARS, I'M SPEAKING IN STRONG SUPPORT OF DOCTOR FRANCIS MARQUEZ FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE DISTRICT FIVE CITY COUNCIL SEAT. SHE IS THE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE TO CONTINUE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY WITH INTEGRITY, EXPERIENCE AND COMPASSION. I HAVE KNOWN FRANCIS SINCE OUR COLLEGE DAYS AT UCLA. EVEN THEN, HER KINDNESS AND LEADERSHIP STOOD OUT TO ME. ALTHOUGH WE BARELY KNEW EACH OTHER AT THE TIME, SHE REACHED OUT TO ME TO 
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TO HELP ME STUDY FOR A CLASS, NOT KNOWING ME, JUST NOTICING THIS. THE SHY PERSON YOU KNOW BY HERSELF AND I JUST WAS STRUCK BY HER, HER CONFIDENCE, HER INTELLIGENCE AND JUST HOW COURAGEOUS SHE WAS. I HAD SEEN HER IN THE DAILY BRUIN. SHE HAD BEEN PROTESTING AND SUPPORTING THE UNDERDOG, AS USUAL. AND EVEN THOUGH SHE WASN'T PERSONALLY AFFECTED, SHE STOOD IN SOLIDARITY WITH OTHERS THAT NEEDED THE SUPPORT AND THAT EMPATHY AND MORAL COURAGE I THINK HAVE ARE STILL GUIDING HER TODAY. WHEN FRANCIS WAS SELECTED DURING COVID 19 PANDEMIC, WHEN SHE WAS ELECTED, SHE IMMEDIATELY ORGANIZED VOLUNTEERS TO CALL CYPRESS SENIORS AND HELP THEM REGISTER FOR VACCINATIONS AND ARRANGE FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE WHO NEEDED IT. SO SINCE SHE TAKES CARE OF HER 88 YEAR OLD MOTHER, SHE UNDERSTANDS THE BARRIERS THAT MANY SENIORS FACE. AND BECAUSE OF THIS, SHE'S ABLE TO ANTICIPATE WHAT THEY NEED AND BE THERE AS A VOLUNTEER. SHE UNDERSTANDS THOSE NEEDS. FRANCIS ALSO BRINGS UNMATCHED EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE. SHE HAS BEEN ELECTED CITYWIDE, HOLDS HER PHD IN POLITICAL SCIENCE, AND HAS SERVED FOR RESPECTED MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, INCLUDING AS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR TO CONGRESSMAN ALAN LOWENTHAL. SHE HAS TAUGHT GOVERNMENT AND POLITICAL SCIENCE TO DEAF STUDENTS AT GALLAUDET UNIVERSITY, AND IS FLUENT IN BOTH ASL AND SPANISH. 
          OUR CITY COUNCIL NOW REFLECTS THE DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, THANKS IN PART TO FRANCIS'S LEADERSHIP AND COURAGE. SHE CHAMPIONED THESE DISTRICT ELECTIONS, OFTEN STANDING ALONE BECAUSE SHE BELIEVED IN FAIR REPRESENTATION. SO SHE HAS THAT COURAGE TO ASK THOSE TOUGH QUESTIONS AND ENSURE THAT OUR PUBLIC LANDS ARE MANAGED RESPONSIBLY AND TRANSPARENTLY. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE SHE IS THE MOST QUALIFIED TO TO WORK IN OUR BEST INTERESTS. THANK YOU, DOCTOR CHRISTOPHER PACKE, FOLLOWED BY AND I BELIEVE, CLAUDIA NECESSARY. I BELIEVE YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE VACANCY AS WELL. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY INTEREST IN COUNCIL. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL, THE POSITION I LIVE HERE IN CYPRUS, MY FAMILY. AND I'M DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. AS AN EDUCATOR AND A BEING ECONOMIST. MY WORK FOCUSES ON HELPING ORGANIZATIONS MAKE DECISIONS, MAKE BALANCED, AND THE THE INFORMED DECISIONS. AND I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT INTO THIS PUBLIC SERVICE. ALSO. CYPRUS IS A WONDERFUL CITY AND I WANT TO HELP ENSURE ITS CONTINUED TO BE A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES, SMALL BUSINESSES AND OUR COMMUNITY VALUES CAN STRIVE TOGETHER. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. CLAUDIA NAZARIO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BURKE AND COUNCILMAN AND COUNCILWOMAN PETE, I AM HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR AN INTERVIEW, TO GET TO SPEAK MORE WITH YOU SO YOU CAN GET TO KNOW WHO I AM AND MY INTERESTS IN SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER ALONGSIDE OF YOU. 
          MY INTERESTS, WHILE PROFESSIONAL IN WANTING TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY CONTINUES TO RUN SMOOTHLY, CONTINUES TO BE FISCALLY SOUND AND RUN AS IT HAS BEEN DOING. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING FOR US. WE ARE A GREAT CITY. HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT JUST A BUSINESS AND WE DO HAVE THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT NEED TO BE HEARD, THAT NEED TO BE REPRESENTED AS WELL. I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. I DO IT ALREADY AS A SENIOR COMMISSIONER, I DO LIKE REPRESENTING THEM, TALKING WITH THEM, GETTING TO KNOW THEM, HEARING THEIR CONCERNS AND WHAT THEY ARE. NOT ONLY THAT, I FREQUENT A LOT OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. I GET TO KNOW THEM. I ATTEND A LOT OF OUR SOFTBALL GAMES, BASEBALL GAMES. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN PLAYING THERE, BUT MY CHILDREN WERE RAISED HERE. CYPRUS HAS BEEN THE BACKDROP OF MY FAMILY RAISING THEM. I'VE BEEN MARRIED 42 YEARS TO UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS VETERAN. I HAVE THREE CHILDREN WHO I STAYED HOME TO RAISE. I DID NOT HAVE A PROFESSIONAL CAREER, BUT DURING THAT TIME I RAISED THEM WITH RULES AND CONSEQUENCES AND TO KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION THEY ARE CURRENTLY. 
          ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS WORKED FOR JEFF HERE IN CYPRUS RECREATION MANY YEARS. WENT OFF TO LAW 
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SCHOOL. SHE'S AN ATTORNEY NOW. MY SON WENT BACK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OF COURSE, SIBLING RIVALRY. HE SAID SHE CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE WITH THE DOCTORATE TITLE. SO HE WENT BACK TO SCHOOL. HE'S PURSUING HIS PSYCHOLOGY DEGREE. I HAVE A YOUNGER DAUGHTER WHO IS A BFA AND BACHELOR OF FINE ARTS AND IN SCHOOL AS WELL. RIGHT NOW FOR HER DEGREE IN THEOLOGY. SO DURING THAT TIME AND RAISING THEM, I DIDN'T SIT AROUND DOING NOTHING. I WAS VERY BUSY IN OUR COMMUNITY. I SERVED AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AS A VOLUNTEER INSTRUCTIONAL AIDE WHEN THERE WAS NO BUDGET FOR THEM. I'M BILINGUAL IN SPANISH. WE HAVE A LOT OF SPANISH SPEAKING STUDENTS THAT DID NOT SPEAK ENGLISH THAT WERE COMING INTO KINDERGARTEN. THERE WAS ISSUES, SO I VOLUNTEERED TO DO THAT. I WORKED EVERY DAY FOR FREE AND I REALLY ENJOYED IT. I GOT TO KNOW THE FAMILIES, GOT TO KNOW THE CHILDREN. ADDITIONALLY, I WAS A FIVE YEAR PTA MEMBER DOING NUMEROUS DUTIES PRESIDENT, HISTORIAN, PARLIAMENTARIAN. I TO THIS DAY STILL GO TO CYPRESS LAWN AND PLANT FLAGS ON THE GRAVES OF OUR VETERANS. FOR VETERANS DAY, I HAVE VOLUNTEERED WITH OUR 55K OUR CITY RUN. I HAVE GONE OUT AND ASSISTED WITH THE HOMELESS. 
          I KEEP BAGS IN MY CAR FULL OF SUPPLIES. WHEN I SEE SOMEBODY ON THE CORNER, I JUST HAND IT TO THEM. THERE'S WATER. THERE'S VARIOUS THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME FROM ONE TO THE OTHER, THE HOMELESS TO THE WELL-OFF. THEY ALL NEED REPRESENTING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE THAT PERSON IN THE SEAT ALONGSIDE YOU DOING THAT. THANK YOU. STEVE MOUSE, I HAVE YOU FOR THE GENERAL ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, NOT AN AGENDA ITEM. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS FOR AGENDA ITEMS. MADAM CITY CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY HANDS RAISED ONLINE? NO, MR. MAYOR, ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR 
          [ CONSENT CALENDAR  All matters listed on the Consent Calendar are to be approved with one motion unless a Council Member requests separate action on a specific item.  Council Members voting no or abstaining on a Consent Calendar item may do so without removing the item from the Consent Calendar.]
THE ROBUST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ALL MATTERS LISTED ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE TO BE APPROVED WITH ONE MOTION, UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS SEPARATE ACTION ON A SPECIFIC ITEM. COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTING NO OR ABSTAINING ON A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM MAY DO SO WITHOUT REMOVING THE ITEM FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO PULL OR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO THANK YOU. I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM ITEM NUMBER NINE. 
          I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS CURRENTLY WORKING IN THE REC DEPARTMENT. NOTED. IS IT? I'M SORRY. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IS IT ITEM NUMBER NINE OR NUMBER FOUR THAT YOU INTENDED TO ABSTAIN FROM? OH, SORRY. NUMBER FOUR. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG AND I WANT TO PULL ITEM NUMBER NINE FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY. IN THAT CASE, I MOVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT. MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. 
          AND THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND THE RECORD WILL REFLECT THAT. MAYOR PRO TEM ABSTAINED AS TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, SO 
          [10. Adopt the 2025 California Model Building, Electrical, Plumbing, and Fire Codes with Amendment Prepared by:  Nick Mangkalakiri, Public Works Director Recommendation: Conduct the public hearing, take public testimony, waive further reading, and adopt the four attached ordinances by title only.]
THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER TEN, OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, WHICH IS ADOPT THE 2025 CALIFORNIA MODEL BUILDING ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND FIRE CODES WITH AMENDMENT. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD AT THIS TIME DISCLOSE ANY COMMUNICATIONS THEY'VE HAD RELEVANT TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. HAVE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD SUCH COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PRESENTATION BY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR MEGAN KELLY. CARRIE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. TONIGHT IS THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCES TO ADOPT THE 2025 CALIFORNIA BUILDING ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND FIRE CODES. THE STATE UPDATES THESE CODES EVERY THREE YEARS, AND THE 2025 ADDITION TAKES EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, 2026. ALL LOCAL AGENCIES MUST ADOPT THEM, ALONG WITH ANY LOCAL AMENDMENTS FOR CYPRUS. THE AMENDMENTS ARE MINIMAL AND MOSTLY CONTINUE. EXISTING PROVISIONS RELATED TO LOCAL SOIL AND CLIMATE CONDITIONS. WE'LL PROVIDE NOTICES TO CONTRACTORS AND DEVELOPERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THROUGH THE CITY WEBSITE AND AT THE PUBLIC COUNTER. ONCE ADOPTED, WE'LL ALSO NOTIFY THE STATE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION AS REQUIRED BY LAW. 
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TONIGHT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO ADOPT ALL FOUR ORDINANCES TO KEEP CYPRUS CURRENT WITH STATE REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? THEN I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM PRIOR TO ACTION TAKEN. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS CURRENTLY. DO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? AND DO WE HAVE ANY HANDS RAISED ONLINE? HELLO MADAM CITY CLERK. NO HANDS RAISED. ALL RIGHT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL BRING THE ITEM BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR COMMENTS. SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE ITEM. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS PROPOSED. THANK YOU. SECOND. 
          [11. Review City Council Applicants and Select Those to be Interviewed Prepared by:  Lisa Berglund, City Clerk Recommendation:  Select applicants to be interviewed to fill the vacant City Council seat.]
ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 11. REVIEW CITY COUNCIL APPLICANTS AND SELECT THOSE TO BE INTERVIEWED. AND. DO WE HAVE VISUAL ACCOMPANIMENT FOR THIS ONE? OKAY. GIVE YOU A MINUTE. 
          OKAY. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, AS A BRIEF RECAP, FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MINIKUS RESIGNED FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 1ST, CAUSING A VACANT SEAT ON THE CITY COUNCIL. ON OCTOBER 13TH, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO FILL THE VACANCY BY APPOINTMENT. THE INDIVIDUAL SELECTED TO FILL THE VACANCY WILL SERVE THE BALANCE OF THE VACANT TERM THROUGH NOVEMBER 2026. THE APPLICATION PERIOD FOR INTERESTED PARTIES OPENED ON OCTOBER 14TH AND CLOSED ON OCTOBER 30TH AT 5 P.M. THERE ARE 16 INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS TO SERVE THE REMAINDER OF THE VACANT SEAT. THOSE NAMED ARE PROJECTED ON THE SCREEN NOW. 
          ALL APPLICANTS HAVE MET THE MINIMUM ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. THERE ARE NO PROVISIONS IN THE ELECTIONS CODE OR THE CYPRUS MUNICIPAL CODE AS TO HOW APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE. SO THIS PROCESS IS UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IN ORDER TO PROCEED WITH THE NEXT PHASE OF THE SELECTION PROCESS, STAFF SUGGESTS THAT EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL NOMINATE TWO INDIVIDUALS. I HAVE PROVIDED A BALLOT SHEET AT THE DAIS, ONE FOR EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE BALLOT SHEET LISTS THE NAMES OF ALL 16 APPLICANTS. STAFF HAS ASKED THAT EACH MEMBER USE THEIR BALLOT SHEET TO NOMINATE TWO INDIVIDUALS ON THE LIST. ONCE THE MEMBER HAS COMPLETED THEIR BALLOT SHEET, I WILL COLLECT THOSE AND I WILL TALLY THE VOTES AND REPORT OUT THE RESULTS. STAFF HAS ALSO PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF SUGGESTED QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL TO UTILIZE WHILE INTERVIEWING APPLICANTS. THOSE QUESTIONS ARE PROJECTED HERE ON THE SCREEN. THEY'RE ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE DAIS AND FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE TO TAKE THOSE. COUNCILMEMBER PETE HAS A QUESTION. YEAH, JUST A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS OR COMMENTS. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY CANDIDATES WE'D HAVE, AND I'M PLEASED THAT WE GOT 16 CANDIDATES ACROSS THE CITY. SO IT MAKES ME PROUD THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING THE CITY. I KIND OF WONDER, WHY DON'T WE GIVE EVERYBODY THE BENEFIT AND INTERVIEW EVERYBODY? I KNOW THAT WOULD TAKE US A LONG TIME. OKAY. BUT QUITE HONESTLY, I SAW SOME NAMES IN THERE I'VE NEVER SEEN, AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST SHOW THEIR FACE, TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE ABOUT. AND EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL, MAYBE 
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THEY CHOOSE TO RUN AT THE NEXT COUNCIL. SO I KNOW IT WOULD BE A BIG COMMITMENT FOR US, BUT I SEE NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T INTERVIEW EVERYBODY. YES, I AGREE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST OPEN THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION. I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION, I'M JUST OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. 
          RECOGNIZING I DID THE CALCULATION, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT AT LEAST 6.5 HOURS IF WE DO IT ALL IN ONE DAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I WANTED TO JUST MAKE A FEW COMMENTS, AND THEN I GUESS WE CAN JUMP INTO THE PROCESS. SO FIRST WE GOT 16 APPLICANTS FOR ONE SEAT. SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO APPLIED. IT'S A VERY QUALIFIED APPLICANT POOL AND A VERY IMPRESSIVE GROUP. I ENJOYED READING THROUGH THE STATEMENTS AND THE WRITTEN ESSAYS. JUST READING THROUGH THOSE, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS FOR THINGS WE CAN CONSIDER HERE TO MAKE PROGRESS IN THE CITY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, THANK EVERYONE WHO SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION. AND ALTHOUGH ONLY ONE PERSON WILL BE ULTIMATELY CHOSEN, I HOPE ALL OF YOU STAY ENGAGED BECAUSE YOUR PASSION FOR THE CITY CAME ACROSS IN YOUR APPLICATIONS, AND WE WANT TO HARNESS THAT READING THROUGH THEM. I KIND OF WISH WE HAD A 7 OR 9 PERSON CITY COUNCIL, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. SO WITH THAT SAID, LET'S JUMP INTO THE SELECTION OF APPLICANTS TO BE INTERVIEWED. AND SO WHAT I WAS PLANNING TO PROPOSE WAS SIMPLY THAT WE EACH CHOOSE TWO PEOPLE WE'D LIKE TO INTERVIEW. I, I DIDN'T THINK IT NECESSARILY MADE SENSE TO USE THE BALLOT METHOD, IN PART BECAUSE MY FEAR IS, WELL, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S WRITING DOWN HOME, WE COULD CONCEIVABLY END UP INTERVIEWING JUST 3 OR 4 PEOPLE OUT OF A POOL OF 15. AND THAT SEEMS PRETTY SMALL. AND I THOUGHT IF WE EACH NAME TWO PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INTERVIEW, THAT TAKES US TO EIGHT, AND THAT'S AT LEAST HALF THE GROUP, COUNCIL MEMBER PETERS SUGGESTED PERHAPS INTERVIEWING ALL THE CANDIDATES. AND SO I WANTED TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE'D LIKE TO SELECT THE NUMBER OF CANDIDATES TO BE INTERVIEWED. 
          ONE, ONE OF YOU JUMP IN FIRST. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO I WANT TO ECHO WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID. 
          I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE ENTHUSIASM, AND I REALLY ENJOYED READING THROUGH EVERYONE'S APPLICATIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES, AND I, I WAS VERY HUMBLED SEEING HOW MUCH EFFORT AND RESPONSIBILITIES PEOPLE ARE UNDERTAKING WITHIN THE CITY. SO I'M GLAD TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF CITY LIKE CYPRUS, WHERE I THINK THERE'S OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO FIND COMMISSIONERS, THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO FIND CANDIDATES. 
          AND WE HAVE THE EXACT OPPOSITE PROBLEM HERE. SO FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT SIGN THAT THINGS ARE BEING RUN WELL HERE IN CYPRUS. SECOND, I WANTED TO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPROMISE HERE IN FIGURING THIS OUT. I KNOW WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT THIS AT A PRIOR COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEETING THAT I WANTED AN ELECTION, BUT WE SAW THE PRICE TAG AND WHAT WAS INVOLVED, AND WE HAD TWO OPTIONS. ONE WAS PICKING A SET OF CANDIDATES AND THE OTHER ONE WAS HAVING ELECTION. AND THIS IS THE THE WHERE WE'RE AT. WE HAVE 16 CANDIDATES. I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS 20 MINUTES OR 30 MINUTES. WE BUDGETED WE SAID ABOUT 30 MINUTES, I THINK. AND SO THAT WAS 16 TIMES HALF HOURS, EIGHT HOURS. AND IF YOU CALCULATE OTHER THINGS TOO AND FATIGUE, IT MAY BE A TEN HOUR DAY. AND SO I'M RECOMMENDING A COMPROMISE. I THINK WE NEED TO START THE FILTERING PROCESS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. AND I THINK THIS WAS THE RIGHT PATH. 
          WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SUGGESTED. LET'S GO AHEAD AND START THE FILTERING PROCESS NOW TO NARROW IT DOWN FROM 16 TO POTENTIALLY I CAN SEE THE SITUATION. I CAN SEE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PETE WANTS TO DO, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO EVERYONE AT THE SAME TIME. I KNOW THAT IF WE INTERVIEW EVERYONE, THEN AFTER THAT EIGHT HOURS, THEN WE MAY BE SPENDING EVEN MORE TIME TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN WITH MORE INFORMATION. WE MAY FIND OURSELVES MAKING THIS EVEN MORE DIFFICULT. SO RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GO DOWN THIS PROCESS HERE OF NARROWING IT DOWN, EACH GIVING TWO. I DO SEE, THOUGH, THAT IF WE DO GO AHEAD AND GO DOWN THE BALLOT, WE CAN VERY QUICKLY NARROW IT DOWN, UNFORTUNATELY, TO 3 OR 4. AND SO I WOULD RATHER FIND THE COMPROMISE NOT 16, NOT THREE AND FOUR. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN 
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MAYBE GET EIGHT. IN THE PROCESS. AND THEN EIGHT IS A FOUR HOUR FIVE HOUR DAY. AND I THINK FROM EIGHT WE WILL STAND A BETTER CHANCE OF DISTILLING DOWN WHO WE WANT, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO DISTILL DOWN FROM 16 APPLICANTS AND EIGHT HOURS OF INTERVIEWS. SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND. COUNCILMEMBER CHANG. THANK YOU. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT APPLIED FOR THIS POSITION. INCREDIBLE RESUMES. LOVE ALL YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT YOU SUGGEST FOR THE CITY. AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. RIGHT NOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF LIMITING OUR INTERVIEWS TO EIGHT OR LESS. THAT ALONE IS GOING TO BE FOUR HOURS OF INTERVIEWS AND THEN POSSIBLY ANOTHER HOUR OR TWO OF DELIBERATION. SO THAT MIGHT TAKE US TO MIDNIGHT EASILY KNOWING US. SO AND, YOU KNOW, 6 P.M. TO TO MIDNIGHT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH. I QUESTIONED THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED PAST MIDNIGHT. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF US KEEPING IT SMALLER. I'M OKAY WITH US GOING DOWN THE BALLOT PROCESS OR SAYING OUT LOUD WHO WE WHO WE WHO WE WHO WE WANT TO CHOOSE. BUT I DON'T MIND GOING DOWN THE DOING FOLLOWING STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AND GOING ALONG THE BALLOT PROCESS. COUNCILMEMBER PETE. YES, THANK YOU. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M WILLING TO GO THE WHOLE ROUND. I'M WILLING TO JUST SPLIT IT OVER TWO DAYS IF THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. BUT I'M NOT THE MAJORITY HERE. SO I THINK THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT WE ALL SELECT THE SAME PEOPLE. I WANT TO DO A PRIVATE BALLOT. I DO NOT WANT TO DO IT PUBLICLY. AND I WOULD SUGGEST EACH OF US SELECT THREE AND THEN LET'S SEE WHERE THAT LEADS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONLY HAVING LIKE FOUR PEOPLE. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THREE. AND TO DO A PRIVATE BALLOT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I WANTED TO CLARIFY I DON'T MR. CITY ATTORNEY. I DON'T BELIEVE PRIVATE BALLOTS ARE ALLOWED. IS THAT RIGHT? THEY ARE NOT, AS THE STAFF REPORT EXPLAINS, THEY THEY HAVE TO BE ANNOUNCED. SO YOU YOU MAY SUBMIT THE BALLOT PRIVATELY, BUT THE CITY CLERK WILL HAVE TO ANNOUNCE. YEAH, I'M FOR CLARITY. 
          AND SHE CAN TELL ME THAT. BONNIE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY, BE THE FIRST ONE THAT SAYS, OH, I THINK IT'S LISA. ALICIA. AND SO AND SO. I DON'T WANT TO GO THERE. I'D RATHER DO IT PRIVATELY AND THEN HAVE YOU ANNOUNCE WHAT THE EACH ONE OF US SAID. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO. I WAS GOING TO ECHO WHAT FRED SAID EARLIER JUST BECAUSE I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION. WHAT ARE THE RULES REGARDING THE BROWN ACT AND OTHER RULES WITH REGARD TO TRANSPARENCY AND WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO PRIVATELY? SO I WAS GOING TO. GO AHEAD. THAT'S RIGHT. THE BROWN ACT PROHIBITS CONFIDENTIAL BALLOTING. SO THE CITY CLERK WOULD HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THE NAMES AND WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS SUPPORTED EACH CANDIDATE. RIGHT. WELL. OH, SORRY. CONTINUE. YEAH. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, IF POSSIBLE, GO. COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER. AND WE WE STATE OUR OUR WHO WE WANT AND THEN THAT WILL ALSO THEN GIVE US MAYBE A QUICK MOMENT OR TWO TO IF WE WANT TO TO EXPLAIN WHY THE RATIONALE BEHIND OUR SELECTION PROCESS. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE. YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I SUGGEST RIGHT TO LEFT, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, YOUR SUGGESTION IS THAT YOU GO LAST. YES. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I'M FINE. I'LL GO FIRST TO, SO THAT'S FINE. OKAY. MR. CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU NEED US TO MAKE A MOTION TO HOW WE DO IT? OR CAN I JUST KIND OF READ THE ROOM AND SUGGEST AND GO WITH IT? YOU MAY PROCEED AND THEN ULTIMATELY MAKE A MOTION TO INTERVIEW THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE ULTIMATELY SELECTED. OKAY. 
          WELL, IN THAT CASE, I THINK I AND THAT'S ASSUMING EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT TWO CANDIDATES EACH. YEAH. IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT WE CAN EACH VERBALLY MENTION OR IDENTIFY TWO CANDIDATES WE'D LIKE TO INTERVIEW. AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S FINE. ACCOMMODATING COUNCIL MEMBER PETE'S REQUEST TO GO LAST. SO I WILL START OFF WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG IDENTIFYING HIS TWO CHOICES. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CHOOSE TWO APPLICANTS, FRANCIS MARQUEZ AND CLAUDIA NAZZARI. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO. GIVE ME 
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A MOMENT. SURE. 
          THIS TOOK A LOT OF TIME COMING UP WITH THE DECISION PROCESS. AND WHAT I LEAN TO IS PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED BEFORE AND ELECTED ROLES BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE SCREENING PROCESS, AND ALSO COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN PRESCREENED AND THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR OWN ELECTION THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THEY WERE SCREENED TO IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND PRIOR COMMISSIONERS HAVE FILED A FORMS, HAVE TAKEN ETHICS TRAINING AND SO FORTH, AND ARE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT MORE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE BUREAUCRACY THAT THEY WILL BE ENTERING INTO HERE WITHIN THE CITY OF CYPRESS. AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A POSITIVE WAY OR NEGATIVE WAY. IT'S SIMPLY THE METHODOLOGY. THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE BROWN ACT, AND THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH OTHER THINGS. AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND COMMISSIONERS HAVE TAKEN AN OATH. SO I'VE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN I SELECTED. WHO WHO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          AND SO MY TWO ARE CANDI KERN AND RACHEL STRONG. THANK YOU. IT'S MY TURN. JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO SELECT. BILL ROSENBERG AND QUENTIN BENTLEY. COUNCILMEMBER PETE. YEAH I CHOOSE I'M GOING TO KIND OF DOUBLE UP ON ONE. I'M GOING TO CHOOSE CANDI KERN FOR THE SAME REASON THAT MAYOR PRO TEM HAD MENTIONED, AS WELL AS AN MALLORY. SO, MAYOR, YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN CANDIDATES, IF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNCIL TO PROCEED, YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION A SECOND AND THEY WILL BE SCHEDULED, AS PREVIOUSLY ADDRESSED BY YOUR CITY MANAGER. AS FAR AS THE TIMING AND PROCEDURES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IN THAT CASE, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO INTERVIEW THE SEVEN CANDIDATES SELECTED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND I SECOND THE MOTION. CAN I ASK I ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK. ARE WE GOING TO TALK SEPARATELY ABOUT THE QUESTIONS FOR THE INTERVIEW? OR IS THIS ARE WE ARE WE APPROVING ALL? THE MOTION WAS JUST FOR THE FOR THE CANDIDATES OKAY. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE QUESTIONS. SO GO AHEAD AND VOTE NOW. AND THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THIS MATTER IS THE APPLICANT SUGGESTED INTERVIEW QUESTIONS. AND THEN MR. CITY MANAGER I SEE YOU REQUESTED A JUMP IN FOR SURE. AND WE'VE CREATED A RANDOMIZED FUNCTION. 
          SO WE WILL WE WILL TAKE THE NAMES AND RANDOMLY RANDOMLY SELECT THE ORDER IN WHICH THE RESPECTIVE CANDIDATES ARE INTERVIEWED, AS WAS THE EXPRESSED INTEREST OF THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN LAST YOU SPOKE OF THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU. SO YOU CAN SEE THE SUGGESTED INTERVIEW QUESTIONS BEFORE US. DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE EDITS OR COMMENTS OR ANYTHING THEY WOULD 
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LIKE TO RAISE BEFORE WE APPROVE THESE QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER PETE. I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND. 
          I'M OKAY WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS, BUT I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT ITEM SIX GET DELETED, WHICH IS DO YOU PLAN TO RUN A FULL TERM IN NEXT ELECTION? AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE AS I GO THROUGH THE CANDIDATES AND IT WAS THE WHOLE POOL, 30% OF THE CANDIDATES WERE FROM DISTRICT FIVE, THE OTHER ONE FROM ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS. OKAY. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US IF THEY'RE GOING TO RUN IN ONE, TWO, 3 OR 4. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY LET'S THERE'S NO NEED FOR US TO ASK THAT QUESTION AND HONESTLY JUST GO WITH THE FIVE, WHICH IS OPENING AND THE CLOSING BEING NUMBER SIX. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. SO THANK YOU. I, I DISAGREE ON THAT POINT. AND I THOUGHT QUESTION NUMBER SIX WAS RELEVANT IN PART BECAUSE A NUMBER OF THE APPLICANTS MENTIONED THAT IN THEIR APPLICATION MATERIALS. LIKE SOME OF THEM SAID, I INTEND TO, YOU KNOW, APPLY AND I INTEND TO RUN. AND SOME OF THEM SAID, I INTEND TO APPLY AND I DON'T INTEND TO RUN. AND PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S A IT'S A RELEVANT MATTER WHETHER SOMEONE IS APPLYING TO FILL A SEAT FOR A YEAR OR SOMEONE'S POTENTIALLY APPLYING TO FILL A SEAT FOR FIVE YEARS. I THINK THAT'S A CONSIDERATION. AND WHETHER YOU VIEW THAT AS A PRO OR CON, IT'S IT'S AT LEAST I THINK, A FACTOR THAT'S WORTH CONSIDERING. AND I, I BELIEVE WHEN OUR SCHOOL BOARD HAD AN APPOINTMENT PROCESS, I RECALL AT LEAST ONE OF THE CANDIDATES MENTIONING OR ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT CAME UP BEING THAT VERY QUESTION, BECAUSE RESIDENTS WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CANDIDATE APPLYING INTENDS. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I THOUGHT IT MADE SENSE. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE FOR THOSE GOING FOR DISTRICT FIVE. 
          OKAY, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF SOMEONE ELSE IS IN THE OTHER FOUR FOUR DISTRICTS TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND THE SCHOOL BOARD MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEY WENT OUT AND APPOINTED SOMEBODY THAT WAS ALREADY IN THAT DISTRICT. SO THE QUESTION WAS THEY'RE ALREADY IN DISTRICT. I THINK IT WAS 1 OR 2. ARE YOU GOING TO RERUN FOR THAT DISTRICT NEXT YEAR? IF YOU ASK ANY LIKE 3 OR 4 OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, I'M NOT IN DISTRICT FIVE. SO NO, I'M NOT GOING TO RUN FOR DISTRICT FIVE. YES. THAT'S HOW I WOULD RUN THE QUESTION. SO I DON'T THINK WE THEY OWE US A RESPONSE IF THEY'RE IN ANOTHER DISTRICT IS MY POINT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DISTRICT FIVE AND WE'RE ASKING IF THE CANDIDATE WE'RE CHOOSING IS GOING TO RUN IN DISTRICT FIVE. IF WE DON'T CHOOSE SOMEBODY IN DISTRICT FIVE, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IN MY OPINION. THANK YOU. YEAH, JUST I SEE MAYOR PRO TEM, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. WE'RE NOT CONFINED TO CHOOSING SOMEONE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. IT'S ANYONE IN THE CITY, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO, JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S FILLING THE VACANT, UNEXPIRED TERM OF A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WAS ELECTED AT LARGE. I THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, A FEW THINGS HERE. FIRST, I COULD SEE THAT QUESTION BEING REMOVED IF IF THE QUESTION READ IF YOU'RE APPOINTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, DO YOU PLAN TO RUN FOR A FULL TERM IN THE NEXT ELECTION IN DISTRICT FIVE IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO RUN? SO THAT I COULD SEE. BUT SINCE WE'RE NOT LETTING IT NARROWING IT DOWN TO DISTRICT FIVE, I THINK THAT KEEPING THAT QUESTION THERE, QUESTION NUMBER SIX MAKES SENSE. 
          BUT I'M TRYING TO TAKE A STEP BACK. AND THIS BRINGS UP A BIGGER QUESTION. TWO OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH THIS LIST OF QUESTIONS. ONE IS WHO CAME UP WITH THESE QUESTIONS? I'M KIND OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I THINK WE GAVE YOU SOME GUIDANCE, BUT. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU GAVE ME GUIDANCE. I TOOK I TOOK A LOOK AT THE LAST YEARS AND ALSO MULLED IT OVER WITH THE MAYOR A LITTLE BIT. AND ULTIMATELY, LISA AND I MADE THE DECISION AS TO WHICH QUESTIONS TO INCLUDE. YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK WE GAVE SOME GUIDANCE OR SOMETHING WHERE THERE WAS A PRIOR WHEN WE DID LAST YEAR, LAST TIME IN 2021, WE SAW THOSE QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE TRIED TO KIND OF MOLD IT TOGETHER. AND THEN I THINK WE GAVE YOU SOME MORE GUIDANCE. AND BUT THIS BRINGS UP THE OTHER PART OF THE QUESTION I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IN MY MIND, DID WE SAY 20 MINUTES WITH A TEN MINUTE BREAK FOR EACH CANDIDATE. SO A TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES. RIGHT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ENOUGH 
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INTERVIEW QUESTIONS TO GO AHEAD AND MAINTAIN A MEANINGFUL DIALOG OVER 20 MINUTES, GET ENOUGH INFORMATION FROM EACH OF THE CANDIDATES IN ADDITION TO THEIR APPLICATION, AND THEN TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND FROM THE SEVEN ITEMS, REALLY FIVE QUESTIONS. SO YEAH. 
          AND WHAT I'M AFRAID OF IS IF WE REMOVE QUESTION NUMBER SIX, ANOTHER FACTOR, THEN THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO REALLY JUST FOUR QUESTIONS. WE'RE ASKING THE CANDIDATES. AND RATHER I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO TOO LESS NOT ENOUGH FOR QUESTIONS TO BE ASKING A CANDIDATE IN A 20 MINUTE INTERVIEW. SO I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS, ESPECIALLY UNLESS YOU THINK CITY MANAGER THAT, HEY, BASED UPON WHAT YOU'RE HEARING, SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I DON'T THINK ANYTHING DIFFERENT. YOUR RECOLLECTION IS MINE IS THE SAME AS MINE. THEN I WOULD SAY, LET'S KEEP IT THERE. AND BECAUSE I DID NOTICE THAT SOME PEOPLE SPOKE ON THE MATTER DURING THEIR APPLICATION OF THEIR INTENTIONS, HEY, I WANT TO DO ONLY ONE YEAR. OTHERS DIDN'T NECESSARILY DISCUSS IT, AND HAVING THAT INFORMATION, I BELIEVE WILL BENEFIT US WHEN WE TRY TO DISTILL DOWN MY DISTILLED DOWN WHO WE SHOULD SELECT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE, COUNCILMEMBER PETE. SO LET ME ASK MAYOR THEN. SO IF WE SELECT SOMEBODY FROM DISTRICT TWO AND THAT PERSON SAYS HE IS OR HE IS NOT, HE OR WHATEVER IS GOING TO RUN, HOW DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR CHOICE? HELP ME UNDERSTAND. I'M ASKING NO, YOU'RE ASKING HIM. I'M GOING TO JUST JUMP IN. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO GIVE APPLICANTS A WINDOW INTO WHAT. WHAT QUALITIES ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO? HOW WILL THAT IMPACT YOUR CHOICE? I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT'S A WISE ROAD TO GO DOWN. YEAH, YEAH. I'LL GO I'LL GO IN A COMMENT ON THAT, THAT THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS AND ASKING PEOPLE, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING UP TO ME AND SPEAKING TO ME, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? I'M THINKING THIS CANDIDATE, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? AND I SIMPLY CAN'T ANSWER THEM AND AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER. I THINK THAT IT'S BEST FOR ME NOT TO COMMENT MUCH MORE THAN WHAT I'VE SAID SO FAR ABOUT. HEY, I THINK COMMISSIONERS AND I THINK PRIOR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR THIS POSITION, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT WAS PUT IN BY EVERYONE. AND I, I'M AFRAID THAT IF I COMMENT MUCH MORE AT THIS STAGE, I MAY TAINT THE PROCESS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I MAY SHOW A BIAS, AND I THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST THAT WE SIMPLY SEE AND DISCUSS, HEY, WHAT SHOULD THE QUESTIONS BE? AND THEN WE MOVE ON. BUT BUT PLEASE ADVISE OTHERWISE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER. IF YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY, I WOULD JUST SIMPLY SAY THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT IS DESIRED OUT OF SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. BUT AS FAR AS WHAT ONE PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER HAS IN MIND, THAT IS WHAT IT'S UP TO. THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER, WHETHER HE, HE OR SHE WANTS TO RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER CHANG, THANK YOU. I WANT TO KEEP QUESTION NUMBER SIX. I'M CURIOUS, AND I THINK RESIDENTS ARE CURIOUS, TOO. THANK YOU. WELL, IN THAT CASE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUGGESTED INTERVIEW QUESTIONS AS DRAFTED, AND I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. 
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THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT UP ARE ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          COUNCILMEMBER CHANG, I BELIEVE YOU PULLED ITEM NINE. YOU SEE, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF FOR INCLUDING ALL THE PROPOSALS FROM ALL THE VENDORS, EVEN THOSE THAT WEREN'T SELECTED. IT'S A SMALL CHANGE FROM WHAT WE DID BEFORE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE PROPOSALS AND ALL THE COST ESTIMATES OF OUR COMPETITORS, SO WE CAN COMPARE WHAT WE CHOSE VERSUS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE OFFERING TO US. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE TRADE OFFS IS THAT WE INVITE MORE SCRUTINY, WHICH IS THE CASE IN THIS CASE. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT AND THE COST OF THE SERVICES. THIS FOR THOSE OF YOU GUYS THAT DON'T KNOW THIS JOB USED TO BE PERFORMED IN-HOUSE. WE HAD DEDICATED STAFF FOR THIS, BUT I THINK AROUND 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO WE MOVED THIS TO A CONTRACTED ROLE. AND SO INSTEAD OF DOING IT IN-HOUSE, WE HIRED SOMEBODY OUTSIDE TO DO THIS ROLE. FOR US, IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE. IT'S ABOUT $200,000 FOR THREE YEARS, AND IT SEEMS TO BE ON THE HIGH 
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SIDE COMPARED TO OTHER PROPOSALS AND COMPARED TO HAVING THIS JOB DONE IN-HOUSE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT A MINIMUM OF THREE YEARS FOR THIS CONTRACT. AND AFTER TALKING TO CITY STAFF, THERE'S ALSO THE POSSIBILITY THAT AS WE'RE HIRING NEW PERSONNEL, WE MAY DECIDE TO HIRE SOMEBODY THAT ALREADY HAS AN OVERLAP WITH THIS SKILL SET. OR IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, SUCH AS AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. GIVEN THAT I WANT OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS DECISION, AND AS WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A NEW CITY MANAGER, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN KEEP THE CONTRACT SHORT SO THAT OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER HIRE SOMEBODY IN-HOUSE OR CONTINUE THIS CONTRACT TO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION SAKE? WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT TO KEEP THE CONTRACT SHORT, IS THERE A LENGTH OR TERM THAT YOU HAD IN MIND? I WAS THINKING ABOUT ONE YEAR. AND THAT WAY THE NEW CITY MANAGER COULD GET ACCUSTOMED TO HOW WE DO BUSINESS HERE AND THEN MAKE THAT DECISION WHETHER THEY WANT TO BRING THAT ROLE IN-HOUSE OR KEEP IT CONTRACTED OUT. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, WELL, I GUESS MY COLLEAGUES MAY BE CAN GATHER YOUR THOUGHTS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO ASK OR COMMENTS. I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. DRAPER, THIS IS YOUR AGENDA ITEM. WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS OF OR ARE WE ABLE TO ADOPT A SHORTER CONTRACT THAN THE THREE YEAR PROPOSED AGREEMENT? YEAH. SO THE CONTRACT THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT. THERE IS A CLAUSE IN THERE. IT'S SECTION 7.7. AND IT DOES GIVE THE CITY THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT AT ANY TIME WITH OR WITHOUT CAUSE. SO IT IS A THREE YEAR CONTRACT. 
          BUT SHOULD WE WANT TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. THE CITY COUNCIL CAN CAN END THAT CONTRACT WITH WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE VENDOR. THANK YOU. AS A FOLLOW UP, IS THERE ANY PENALTY FOR ENDING THE CONTRACT EARLY? NO, THERE IS NOT. JUST WHEN ONCE WE GIVE NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF THE CONTRACT, WE WOULD PAY THE VENDOR FOR A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED, BUT NOTHING GOING FORWARD. OKAY, WELL, DOES THAT MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO GO AHEAD. I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. DIRECTOR I KNOW THERE ARE CURRENT VENDOR AND WE HAVE A HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THEM. DO YOU KNOW HOW FAR WE'VE OR HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM? DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH IDEA? FIVE YEARS. TEN YEARS? YEAH, SINCE 2022. AND THAT WAS WHEN WE SWITCHED OVER FROM ONE IN-HOUSE STAFF PERSON TO A TEAM OF OF MARKETING PROFESSIONALS. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, THANK YOU. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. AND SO IT COULD BE THERE'S NO MINIMUM MINIMUM FOR THE CONTRACT. RIGHT. IT COULD BE SIX MONTHS, THREE MONTHS OR A YEAR. IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. WE WOULD JUST NEED TO PROVIDE THE CONTRACTOR NOTICE. SO EVEN IF WE GAVE 60 DAY NOTICE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT OKAY. TERRIFIC. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT ADDRESSES COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG'S CONCERN. AND SO IN THAT CASE I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER NINE. I SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO SORRY, IS IT FROZEN OR IS THERE A I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER. IT IS. IF YOU'D LIKE IT TO GO ON THE SCREEN I CAN CANCEL THE VOTE. YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN AND WE CAN PUSH IT UP TO THE SCREEN. WE CAN JUST PROCEED. 
          [12. Discussion and Direction to Staff Regarding Changing the Day of City Council Meetings Agendized by:  Leo Medrano, Mayor Pro Tem Recommendation:  Provide direction to staff regarding changing the day of regular City Council meetings.]
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE OKAY TO DO SO. WE ARE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS CONTINUED ITEMS, ITEM NUMBER 12 DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION TO STAFF REGARDING CHANGE IN THE DAY OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. AND THIS WAS AGENDIZED BY MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO. AND THE DISCUSSION IS CONTINUING FROM THE LAST MEETING. SO I'LL ALLOW MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO TO KICK IT OFF THIS EVENING. OKAY. I WAS PASSING ON TO YOU. THANK YOU. WEDNESDAYS ARE NOT GOOD 
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FOR ME. MONDAYS, OF COURSE, WORK AND TUESDAYS ARE A GOOD OPTION FOR ME. I. I REALIZE THAT SUCH AS TODAY, WE DIDN'T HAVE A HOLIDAY, BUT WE DID HAVE A DAY OFF FROM SCHOOL. SO IT IS NICE WHEN IF I'M ABLE TO SPEND THE DAY WITH MY KIDS, I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WORK AFTERWARDS, SO I WOULDN'T MIND MOVING IT TO TUESDAY IF IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO SOME OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED IN THE LAST ONE. I'M STILL UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE CHANGE, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE AGENDA OUT AS EARLY AS WE CAN. AND AND IN LOOKING AT BROOK CHART AND IT SHOWS IN WHAT IT DOESN'T SHOW IS WHAT YOU GUYS ALL KNOW IS WE RECEIVE ADVANCE COPY OR DID IN THE PAST AN ADVANCE COPY OF THE AGENDA. AND THAT WAS TO GIVE US A PREVIEW A DAY PRIOR TO THE RELEASE. AND SO MY COMMENT IS, 75% OF THE TIME THE AGENDA IS RELEASED BY WEDNESDAY. OKAY. AND SO JUST AS A COUPLE OF OF COMMENTS, ONE IS I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS ARE LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS. I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE RESIDENT COME IN AND SAYING, PLEASE CHANGE THE DATE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. I HAVE HEARD THE OTHER HALF, WHICH IS THIS IS YOUR CONSTITUENTS HERE. THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT COME IN REGULARLY TO THE MEETINGS AND SPEAK. I SEE LETTERS THAT CAME IN THAT BASICALLY SAID, PLEASE DON'T CHANGE. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT OTHER COMMITMENTS ON OTHER DAYS. SO I DID MYSELF ALSO DID A, A VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS. OKAY. AND SO JUST BEAR WITH ME A MINUTE. SO IF, IF WE KEEP AS IT IS, THE AGENDA GETS RELEASED 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE 72 HOURS, SO IT ACTUALLY GETS RELEASED 130 HOURS PRIOR WHEN THE REQUIREMENT IS 72 HOURS. SO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE UP TO POTENTIALLY FOUR DAYS TO MEET WITH STAFF AND TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER. AS I SAID, IN 2025, 75% OF THE TIME THE COUNCIL MEMBERS RECEIVED AN ADVANCE COPY OF THE AGENDA NO LATER THAN WEDNESDAY, IF NOT TUESDAY NIGHT. I MET CONSISTENTLY ON WEDNESDAY WITH THE PRIOR PRIOR CITY MANAGER, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE AGENDA THAT DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE ATTACHMENTS, BUT HAD A SPECIFIC KIND OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING TO COME OUR WAY. WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE, WHAT WERE SOME OF THE ISSUES. SO IT GAVE ME, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, I GET IT, I GET IT. THEN I WENT IN AND I SAID, WOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THREE WEEK BREAKS IN BETWEEN SOME OF THE MEETINGS. AND IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS WHEN THERE IS A FIVE WEEK MONTH, WE GIVE A BREAK TO OUR STAFF. THEY HAVE TO. THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK. I WON'T SAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK, BUT THEY HAVE THREE WEEKS BETWEEN A MEETING TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU CHANGE THE DAY? IF YOU CHANGE IT TO WEDNESDAY AND I CAN I CAN JUST SAY SPECIFICALLY FOR 26, IF YOU CHANGE THE DAY TO WEDNESDAY, YOU CUT IT IN HALF. SO RIGHT NOW WE GIVE OUR OUR OUR BASED ON HAVING A MONDAY MEETING. WE GIVE OUR STAFF AND OURSELVES THREE WEEKS, FOUR TIMES A YEAR. AND THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE SUMMER. IF WE CHANGE IT TO TUESDAY, I BELIEVE IT GOES TO. TWO FOR NEXT YEAR. SO WE CUT IT IN HALF. HOW MANY WEEKS WE GIVE EXTRA TIME? SHOULD STAFF WANT TO TAKE A HOLIDAY OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL SUMMER BREAK? SO YOU'RE CUTTING? I'LL CALL IT THE BENEFIT BY, ESPECIALLY IN 26 BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE IN 27. 
          BUT MONDAY CONSISTENTLY BRINGS MORE TIME BETWEEN SOME OF THE MEETINGS IN FIVE WEEK MONTHS. I LOOKED AT GLENDALE'S SCHEDULE. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SCHOOL SCHEDULE. AND IS ON A YEAR ROUND CALENDAR, SO IT LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER OTHER SCHOOLS. OKAY. 
          BUT AS AS SOMEONE POINTED OUT AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO EXACTLY WHO IT WAS, THERE'S AN 
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EASY FIX FOR DAYS LIKE TODAY. OKAY. AND WE COULD JUST NOT HAVE A MEETING THIS TIME A MONTH. WE JUST NOT HAVE A MEETING. OKAY? OR YOU LOOK AHEAD AND YOU SAY, OKAY, NEXT YEAR, VETERANS DAY IS GOING TO BE ON WEDNESDAY. SO THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE ONE DAY OFF, WHICH IS GOING TO BE WEDNESDAY. BUT OKAY, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO CAPTURE ANOTHER DAY SOMEWHERE ELSE, LIKE MAYBE COLUMBUS DAY. AND WE CAN WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS THAT SAYS, HEY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE COLUMBUS DAY OFF. LET'S NOT HAVE A MEETING ON OCTOBER X SO WE CAN BE PLANFUL TO WORK WITH THE LOCAL SCHOOLS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY CONFLICTS OR DAYS OFF, WE CAN MANAGE THOSE APPROPRIATELY. BUT THERE AREN'T THAT MANY ON MONDAYS THAT HAPPEN. OKAY. AS SOMEONE ELSE SAID, THERE'S VERY FEW COMMITMENTS. WHEN I PUT TOGETHER THE SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY PURPOSELY, I LEAVE MONDAYS OPEN BECAUSE IT GIVES ME A GOOD TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. IF IT'S A HOLIDAY, I GET IT. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE KIDS AT HOME, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND WE CAN EASILY CHANGE THE 1 OR 2 DAYS A YEAR TO TUESDAY. AS SOMEONE ELSE SAID TOO, WE WERE ELECTED FOR MONDAYS. WE ARE PLANFUL ON MONDAYS, I'M PLANFUL ON MONDAYS. 
          MY TUESDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS DON'T WORK FOR ME. OKAY? AND IF WE END UP SWITCHING, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU I'M GOING TO HAVE A HIT AND MISS. ON THE ABILITY TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS. AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE AT 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. I DO NOT HAVE THOSE FLEXIBILITY ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. SO I ASK THAT WE DON'T CHANGE IT, BUT COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WILL GIVE WHAT THE WHAT THE ISSUE HAS BEEN, WHICH IS GIVE US MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THE AGENDA. SO ASK THE CITY MANAGER, DIRECT THE STAFF TO GET IT OUT BY TUESDAY EVENING OR WEDNESDAY MORNING. AND YOU GOT THREE FULL DAYS THE PRIOR WEEK. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO WORK THE WEEKEND OR NOT, AND YOU'VE GOT MONDAY TO KIND OF ASK THE FINAL QUESTIONS. I THINK IT'S CONSIDERATE FOR STAFF. I'VE HAD SOME SOME DISCUSSIONS AND HONESTLY I THINK EVERYBODY IS USED TO HAVING MEETINGS ON MONDAY AND WOULD LIKE TO STAY WITH IT. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY AND I CAN'T COMMIT TO CONSISTENTLY ATTENDING THE MEETING. SO I ASK THAT YOU NOT CHANGE IT AND KEEP IT ON MONDAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. 
          IT'S. INTERESTING ISSUE. JUST TO CLARIFY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING MY REASONING FOR CHANGING THE MEETINGS LAST TIME, SO I WANT TO BE A LITTLE MORE DIRECT THIS EVENING. I KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WELL, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH PREPARING FOR MEETINGS ON SUNDAYS OR SATURDAYS, THEN JUST HAVE THE AGENDA COME OUT EARLIER. HAVE IT COME OUT ON WEDNESDAY. THAT'S JUST NOT HOW HUMAN NATURE WORKS. JUST BECAUSE THE AGENDA COMES OUT ON WEDNESDAY DOESN'T MEAN RESIDENTS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO JUST HOP ON IT THURSDAY MORNING, EMAIL AND ALL THEIR COMMENTS, AND CALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH ALL THEIR COMMENTS. THAT'S PEOPLE DON'T FINISH THEIR HOMEWORK A WEEK EARLY. AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM SERVING THIS ROLE FOR THREE YEARS, I GET PLENTY OF CALLS AND EMAILS A FEW HOURS BEFORE COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM RESIDENTS. I GET TEXTS A FEW HOURS BEFORE COUNCIL MEETINGS. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER THE AGENDA CAME OUT ON FRIDAY OR WEDNESDAY. THE OTHER COUPLE POINTS, I GUESS MAYBE I'M WRONG. OR MAYBE I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WERE BEING MADE. BUT TO BE JUST REAL BLUNT, WHEN YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS ON MONDAYS, THAT EATS INTO PEOPLE'S WEEKENDS, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF MEMBERS USUALLY HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME PREPARING FOR THEIR MEETINGS ON WEEKENDS, WHICH TAKES AWAY TIME THAT SHOULD BE SPENT WITH FAMILY. THAT'S WHAT WEEKENDS ARE FOR. THEY'RE TO GET A BREAK FROM WORK. AND GRANTED, I KNOW EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER SIGNED UP KNOWING THAT MEETINGS WERE ON MONDAYS. I WOULD HAVE RUN FOR COUNCIL IF MEETINGS WERE AT 10 P.M. ON SATURDAY NIGHTS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE BEST CHOICE FOR OUR CITY. I ALSO, I THOUGHT COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG MENTIONED ALLUDED TO THIS. FOR ANY PARENTS WITH SCHOOL AGE KIDS, SCHOOLS OFTEN HAVE HOLIDAYS ON MONDAYS, EVEN IF IT'S NOT A FEDERAL HOLIDAY. SO WHEREAS FOR MOST PARENTS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF MEMBERS, IF YOU HAVE KIDS IN A SCHOOL 
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AND YOU HAVE A SCHOOL HOLIDAY ON MONDAY. IF YOU HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LONG WEEKEND WITH YOUR KIDS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MONDAY WITH YOUR KIDS. TODAY'S ACTUALLY A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT, BECAUSE CYPRESS SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A HOLIDAY TODAY AND TOMORROW, SO MOST PARENTS IN CYPRESS HAVE A FOUR DAY WEEKEND. THIS WEEKEND, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF HAD A TWO DAY WEEKEND. FOR WHAT? BECAUSE OUR MEETINGS NEED TO BE ONE OF ONLY FOUR CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY THAT MEETS ON MONDAY. 26 OF THE 34 CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY MEET ON TUESDAY, FOUR MEET ON WEDNESDAY. AS A RESULT OF THIS, I'VE HAD TO MISS ORIENTATIONS FOR ONE OF MY OUTSIDE BOARDS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT MOST CITY COUNCILS MEET ON TUESDAY, AND SO THEY OFTEN WILL THROW EVENTS ON A MONDAY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME, PEOPLE DEVELOP STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT IT. I MAINTAIN THAT IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND CURRENT AND FUTURE COUNCIL AND STAFF MEMBERS TO CHANGE THE DAY. AND SO I'D SUPPORT A CHANGE TO THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH. I KNOW THAT'S NOT EVERYONE'S FIRST CHOICE, BUT IT SEEMS TO WORK WELL FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF AFFECTED PARTIES. AND THAT GETS US ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE. OKAY, I'M I'M GOING TO BE IN TOTAL DISAGREEMENT HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO. YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT. WHATEVER YOU DO, I HAVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THING RIGHT HERE. OKAY. I LOOKED AT IT IN DETAIL. I KNOW WHAT DAYS OFF THE SCHOOL HAS, OKAY. AND I CAN PREDICT WHAT THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO HAVE NEXT YEAR. I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU MISS A HOLIDAY. I'M SUGGESTING WHEN JANUARY 1ST COMES AROUND AND WE TALK ABOUT THE MEETINGS FOR THE CALENDAR, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT HOLIDAYS THE SCHOOL HAS AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU BE IN A MEETING OR DO WHATEVER. I WAS HERE WHEN MY SON WAS IN THE HOSPITAL, OKAY, AND I WENT TO THE HOSPITAL AFTER THIS. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE SACRIFICES THAT WE MAKE. IT'S NOT A CHOICE, RIGHT? IT'S A SACRIFICES WE WERE ELECTED FOR. AND YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE HERE, YOU DIDN'T HEAR ONE PERSON SAYING, I WANT TO GO TO TUESDAY BECAUSE IT HELPS MY QUALITY OF LIFE. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY OF THE STAFF SAY THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY WILL. I DON'T THINK THEY'LL SAY MONDAY'S THE BEST EITHER. I THINK THEY'LL SAY WE'LL SERVICE WHATEVER YOU HAVE, WHATEVER YOU WANT US TO DO. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU'RE MAKING AN EXCUSE, OKAY, TO DO SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE NO JUSTIFICATION BEHIND IT. PERIOD. ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY, BECAUSE I'VE DONE THE HOMEWORK, I'VE DONE THE MEETINGS. I DON'T CARE HOW MANY MEETINGS MEET ON TUESDAY, I REALLY DON'T, I REALLY DON'T. I LOOK AT WHAT WE DO IN OUR CITY AND WHAT WORKS BEST FOR US, AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT OTHER CITIES. I JUST LOOK AT WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR CITY BASED ON OUR COMMITMENTS, AND WE HAVE OTHER COMMITMENTS THAT THE OTHER WHATEVER. 15 YOU SAID THAT MEET ON TUESDAY, WHICH IS WHY LOS ALAMITOS SEAL BEACH MEET ON MONDAY. THEY MEET ON MONDAY FOR A REASON, BECAUSE THERE ARE COMMITMENTS THAT HAPPEN ON TUESDAY FOR THEM, WHICH ARE SIMILAR COMMITMENTS THAT WE HAVE. SO WITH THAT, I AM VOTING NO. AND I WISH YOU GUYS WOULD LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS. MAYOR PRO TEM MADRONA. SURE. FIRST, LET ME SAY THAT I KNOW CITY IS AN ISLAND. CYPRUS. WE ALL HAVE TO INTERACT WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND OTHER CITIES. AS FAR AS THE STAFF, I DID SPEAK TO EACH OF THE DIRECTORS AND ASKED FOR THEIR OPINION ON THIS, AND THEY EACH GAVE ME A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. SO THERE IS SOME ANALYSIS THAT WENT INTO THIS. I WOULD SAY THIS IN THE MOTION, I'M SORRY, IN THE MANNERS OF ROBERT'S RULES, IF YOU WANT TO COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, YOU CAN PUT FORWARD A MOTION JUST TO CITE WHAT YOU WANT TO. AND IF YOU WANT TO, MAYOR, YOU CAN PUT FORTH A COUNTER MOTION. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ON THE 13TH, WHICH WAS A HOLIDAY WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE 27TH, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT ON THE 10TH. SO LET'S JUST VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE. SO ONE LAST QUESTION. IF WE MOVE TO TUESDAY, I ASKED NO MEETING GETS SCHEDULED BEFORE 530. OKAY. 
          SO IF WE MAY HAVE A MEETING WE MEET AFTER ON TUESDAY EVENINGS IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CHOOSING 
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TO DO. WELL, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAYS, WHICH IS CURRENT TO THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAYS. CAN I CAN I RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST SURE THAT YOU WOULD BE MAKING A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE? ENDING THE MEETING DAY? YES, I'LL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO CHANGE THE CITY ORDINANCE AMENDING THE MEETING DAY FROM THE FIRST AND OR FROM THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY TO THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY. AND THAT HAS TO BE PRESENTED FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. SO THAT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU IN THE FORM OF A DRAFT. FIRST READING, A DRAFT. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHANG AS FAR AS WHEN THAT THE DATE THAT THAT WOULD START, WOULD THAT BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT NEXT TIME THIS IS BROUGHT UP THE WHEN IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU, IF YOU WERE WHEN IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU, WHICH WILL BE AS SOON AS WE CAN GET IT TO YOU LEGIT. I MEAN, AS SOON AS WE GET IT TO YOU, YOU WOULD TAKE IT UP IF YOU VOTED TO SUPPORT READ THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT WOULD RETURN TO YOU PROBABLY TWO TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT. IF YOU WERE TO ADOPT THAT READ BY TITLE, ONLY ADOPT THAT MEETING TIME WOULD TAKE PLACE IN THE FIRST MEETING 30 DAYS AFTER THAT DATE. SO ORDINANCES TAKE EFFECT 30 DAYS AFTER SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. SO THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING FOLLOWING THE THAT 30 DAYS. SO LIKELY THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY. IF I HAVE. PARDON. 
          OKAY. FOR THE FIRST MEETING, THAT MAY BE THE FIRST MEETING. I'D HAVE TO. IT TAKES EFFECT 30 DAYS AFTER THE SECOND READING. SO WHATEVER MEETING IS, IS AFTER THAT, THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD TAKE EFFECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR OR A SECOND. THAT MOTION PASSES WITH THREE YES VOTES AND ONE NO VOTE BY COUNCIL MEMBER PETE. AND JUST AS A NOTE COUNCIL, I'VE MADE IT CLEAR, AND I THINK THE STAFF REPORT IS CLEAR, THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO SERVE AS YOUR CITY ATTORNEY ANY FURTHER IF THAT'S THE CASE. SO IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO PROCEED, BILL WINDER IS AVAILABLE IN MY OFFICE. WE HAVE OTHER ATTORNEYS AS WELL, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT SORT OF TAKES ME UP. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS ITEMS FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. CONSIDER A 
          [13. Consider a Discussion on Campaign Finance Reform Prepared by:  Lisa Berglund, City Clerk Recommendation:  Provide direction to staff regarding campaign finance reform.]
DISCUSSION ON CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. AND I HAVE A VISUAL AID FOR THIS ONE. IF THE CITY CLERK COULD CUE THAT UP, PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE. OH, MAY I MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE? SURE. I WROTE A NOTE EARLIER TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND SAYING HOW DISAPPOINTED I WAS IN HOW THIS CAME ABOUT. I'M NOT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS PUT ON THE CALENDAR. I PREPARED FOR THE MEETING. I FIRST LOOKED AT IT ON THURSDAY, AND THIS MORNING I WENT THROUGH IT WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND I SAID, HEY, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? WHAT CAN WE DO HERE? AND WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN ON THIS ITEM? 13 AND HE SAYS, WELL, THE MAYOR'S GOING TO GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION. AND I SAID, WHAT PRESENTATION? AND THERE WAS NO PRESENTATION ATTACHED TO I HAD NOT SEEN THE AGENDA OR THE I'VE NOT SEEN THE PRESENTATION UNTIL 10 A.M. THIS MORNING. NOW, I WENT BACK AND I GAVE A COPY OF THE SCRIPT FROM THE JUNE 23RD MEETING, WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT MINIKUS ASKED FOR THE PRESENTATION TO BE TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT TWO WEEKS. NO, TWO WEEKS. YES, TWO WEEKS. NOT TWO WEEKS. ANYWAY, I WENT BACK AND FORTH AND YOU SAID YOU WOULD DEFINITELY DO. YOU WOULD TRY TO DO IT BEFORE THE 72 HOURS, BUT YOU WOULD DEFINITELY MEET THE 72 HOURS. YOU DID NOT MEET THE 72 HOURS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE IT WASN'T POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. AND IT NO COMMENTS ARE EVEN BEING ABLE TO BE OFFERED BECAUSE NO ONE'S SEEN THE PRESENTATION UNTIL THEY SAW IT TODAY. IT MAY HAVE BEEN AN ERROR, BUT I'M SORRY, I'M REALLY ASKING FOR THIS ITEM TO BE CONTINUED INTO 2026 AND 
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THERE'S NO HURRY FOR THIS ITEM. THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST. THANK YOU. AND I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PROCESS WORKED, BUT I'M GONNA PUT IT ON YOU, MAYOR, BECAUSE THE AGENDA WENT OUT ON WEDNESDAY, HAD NO ATTACHMENTS TO IT, AND I JUST ASSUMED BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE ATTORNEY, THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT UNTIL 10 A.M. THIS MORNING. DID I FIND OUT THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A PRESENTATION YOU WERE GOING TO GO THROUGH? THAT WAS AND I LOOK AT BRIEFLY AT THE PRESENTATION, AND THERE'S NO WAY I CAN PREPARE FOR THAT IN LIKE FOUR HOURS. SO I AM ASKING FOR IT TO BE CONTINUED INTO ANOTHER DATE. 
          YEAH. JUST TO. YEAH, LET'S LET'S GET, YOU KNOW, FACTS AND, AND TRYING TO INHIBIT, INHABIT REALITY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, I GUESS IN THE FUTURE I'D ASK MAYBE YOU COULD ASK ME BEFORE KIND OF MAKING ACCUSATIONS. BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, I SUBMITTED THE PRESENTATION LONG BEFORE THE 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE, JUST FYI. SO I DON'T KNOW IF. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. GOOD I DON'T KNOW. BUT IT WASN'T IN THE 72 HOUR AGENDA. SO YOU CAN TAKE IT HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE. BUT THAT'S MY COMMENT. OKAY. WELL SO FOR THE FIRST I SUBMITTED IT WELL BEFORE 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE, BUT LET'S LET'S BRING THE TEMPERATURE DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND CLARIFY WHAT THIS IS. SO THIS AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM IS JUST AN INITIAL DISCUSSION. THERE'S NO DRAFT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE. 
          THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE VOTING TO APPROVE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING IN FRONT OF US LIKE THAT TO CONSIDER. AND. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT ADEQUATE NOTICE. 
          BUT THE PROCESS OF THE COUNCIL HAVING A DISCUSSION AND THEN DIRECTING STAFF TO POTENTIALLY COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE, AND THEN THE COUNCIL DISCUSSES THAT DRAFT ORDINANCE. AND THEN THERE'S A FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND A SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S THE PROCESS WE NORMALLY FOLLOW THE POWERPOINT, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU'RE CALLING THE PRESENTATION. 
          THAT'S JUST A VISUAL AID. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO CREATE A VISUAL AID. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT VISUAL AIDS BE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. AND SO IF YOUR CONCERN IS YOUR ABILITY TO MAKE COMMENTS OR RESIDENTS ABILITY TO MAKE COMMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS TONIGHT. AND THEN IF WE GIVE DIRECTION, IT'LL BE BROUGHT BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING AS A DRAFT ORDINANCE. AND AT THAT TIME, RESIDENTS CAN WEIGH IN ON IT. 
          AND IF IT MOVES FORWARD, THEN IT WILL HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND READING, DURING WHICH RESIDENTS CAN ALSO WEIGH IN ON IT. SO THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST FOUR OPPORTUNITIES OVER THE NEXT THREE MONTHS FOR PEOPLE TO SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY ABOUT CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I APOLOGIZE IF YOU FELT THAT, I GUESS, AN OVERSIGHT IN ATTACHING IT TO THE AGENDA PREVENTED YOU FROM PREPARING. BUT REST ASSURED, THIS IS JUST A KICKOFF CONVERSATION. THERE'S NOTHING NO ORDINANCE TO BE VOTED ON. I WAS WILLING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. IT WAS ON THE AGENDA. I HAD NO ISSUE WITH THAT. I JUST ASKED THAT YOU DON'T PRESENT ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU, PRESENTING WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. USE IT AS TALKING, BUT PLEASE DON'T PRESENT IT UNTIL WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. SO I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. THIS IS ME PRESENTING WHAT I WANT TO DO. IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TO USE THE SLIDES, I CAN ASK THE CITY CLERK TO TURN THEM OFF. I DON'T NEED THEM. THEY'RE JUST A VISUAL AID SO PEOPLE CAN FOLLOW ALONG. I JUST THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE. I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF JUST MORE COMMENTS, OKAY? ONE IS, I DID EXPECT A DISCUSSION. I WAS WILLING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. I SAW THE PRESENTATION. THERE'S A LOT OF MISSTATEMENTS IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I REALLY HAD NO CHANCE TO PUT TOGETHER SOME THOUGHTS OR EVEN TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE TODAY? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE ON THE AGENDA TODAY? WE HAVE HAD SO MANY DISRUPTIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. LET'S GET BACK TO BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND LET'S PLAN FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING INTO OUR NEXT ELECTION ON DISTRICTS. LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST DO THAT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. SO MY RECOMMENDATION STANDS THAT WE MOVE THIS TO NEXT YEAR BECAUSE I SEE NO REASON OF DOING IT NOW. 
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OKAY. AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A RIGHT TO THAT OPINION. BUT THE AT THE PRIOR MEETING THIS WAS AGENDIZED PROPERLY I AGREE. AND IT'S ON THE AGENDA. AND SO UNLESS THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL VOTES TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM YET AGAIN, I'M PLANNING TO PROCEED. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I WANT TO CHANGE SLIDES. SO I WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS AND TRANSPARENCY HERE IN CYPRUS, SOMETHING I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT. MANY RESIDENTS I'VE SPOKEN WITH BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN TOO MUCH SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY IN CYPRUS ELECTIONS, AND TOO LITTLE TRANSPARENCY OVER WHERE THAT MONEY COMES FROM. IT'S CAST DOUBT ON PRIOR DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, AND THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE REFORMS WE CAN PASS. SO I'D LIKE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER SOME IDEAS. TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO OVER A FEW PROPOSED REFORMS, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE'D LIKE TO POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH GIVING STAFF DIRECTION. THE FIRST, THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION FOR ANYONE WHO'S NOT FAMILIAR IS WHY DO CITIES PASS CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORMS? WHY DO THEY BOTHER AT ALL? AND I THINK THERE'S TWO PRIMARY REASONS. THE FIRST IS TO DIMINISH THE RISK OF PAY TO PLAY POLITICS AND PAY TO PLAY POLITICS IS THE PHRASE USED TO DESCRIBE WHEN A PERSON OR ENTITY SPENDS MONEY TO SUPPORT A CANDIDATE, THEN THAT CANDIDATE GETS ELECTED AND THEY REWARD THAT PERSON OR ENTITY WITH FAVORABLE TREATMENT, A CONTRACT, A DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL, WHAT HAVE YOU. AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF THIS IS PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES. 
          PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES HAVE BEEN THE HEAVIEST SPENDERS IN FEDERAL POLITICS FOR YEARS. AND AT THE SAME TIME, CONGRESS HAS CONSISTENTLY VOTED AGAINST LEGISLATION THAT WOULD LOWER THE PRICE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. IN AMERICA, WE SPEND 2 TO 3 TIMES, ON AVERAGE, MORE FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAN RESIDENTS IN MANY OTHER COUNTRIES. I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S COINCIDENTAL THAT THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY SPENDS SO HEAVILY IN OUR FEDERAL POLITICS, AND WE HAVE TO PAY SO MUCH MONEY FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. THE SPECIAL INTERESTS THAT TEND TO EXERT INFLUENCE ARE USUALLY REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS, UNIONS, WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES, AND OTHER BUSINESS ENTITIES. COMMON SENSE DICTATES THAT MONEY BUYS INFLUENCE. THESE SPECIAL INTERESTS ARE NOT SPENDING MONEY OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS TO GET PEOPLE ELECTED. THEY GENERALLY WANT SOMETHING IN RETURN, AND STUDIES SHOW THAT LEGISLATION TENDS TO GO IN FAVOR OF THESE POWERFUL INTERESTS OVER TIME. 
          IN TERMS OF IMPROVING TRANSPARENCY, THE PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE IS NOT KNOWING WHOSE MONEY IS BEHIND CANDIDATES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES WITH MISLEADING NAMES CAN SEND OUT MAILERS WITHOUT VOTERS EVER KNOWING WHO IS ACTUALLY FUNDING THOSE MAILERS OR ADS. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK WE PROBABLY AGREE THAT THE MORE VOTERS KNOW ABOUT CANDIDATES, THE BETTER. I THINK VOTERS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW IF A CANDIDATE IS BACKED BY SPECIAL INTERESTS, OR IF THEY'RE BACKED BY INDIVIDUAL DONORS. AND THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP VOTERS MORE EASILY OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION. 
          SO THAT'S THE WHY. WHY CONSIDER REFORMS. AND NOW I WANT TO SUGGEST SOME SPECIFIC REFORMS FOR CYPRUS THAT I THINK WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE FIRST ONE IS A STRONGER CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS ON INDIVIDUALS AND PACS. NOW, THE CURRENT LAW IS THAT THE CONTRIBUTION LIMIT IN CYPRUS IS $5,900. THAT'S A STATE SET DEFAULT LIMIT FOR LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. THAT MEANS ANY PERSON OR ENTITY CAN WRITE A $5,900 CHECK TO ANY COUNCIL CANDIDATE. HAVING STUDIED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS, I CAN TELL YOU A $1,900 LIMIT IN A LOCAL ELECTION IS EXTREMELY HIGH. TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, 24 STATES HAVE LOWER CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS FOR THEIR GOVERNOR'S RACES THAN WE HAVE HERE IN CYPRUS, MEANING THAT SOMEONE RUNNING FOR CYPRUS CITY COUNCIL CAN GET A LARGER CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION THAN SOMEONE RUNNING TO BE THE GOVERNOR OF COLORADO OR MASSACHUSETTS. OKAY, SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS VERY OUT OF WHACK WITH WHAT'S DONE IN MANY, MANY OTHER STATES. 
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HAVING SUCH A HIGH LIMIT OPENS THE DOOR FOR PEOPLE OR ENTITIES WHO WANT TO BUY INFLUENCE. A DEVELOPER COULD WRITE A $1,900 CHECK TO A CANDIDATE. THE DEVELOPER SPOUSE COULD WRITE ANOTHER $5,900 CHECK. THAT DEVELOPER'S LLC COULD WRITE ANOTHER $5,900. CHECK. AND PRETTY SOON YOU'VE GOT A CANDIDATE WHO'S ALMOST ENTIRELY FUNDED BY 1 OR 2 SPECIAL INTERESTS. SO WHAT MANY CITIES HAVE DONE IS PASS THEIR OWN CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS. 
          IT'S 100% LEGAL AND WITHIN A CITY'S LOCAL CONTROL. I'D RECOMMEND WE ADOPT A $500 LIMIT, WHICH I CONSIDER HIGH ENOUGH. THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DONATION, BUT NOT SO HIGH THAT YOU'RE BUYING INFLUENCE FROM THAT CANDIDATE. AND TO BE CLEAR, THAT LIMIT WOULDN'T APPLY TO A CANDIDATE'S SELF-FUNDING. IT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO CONTRIBUTIONS A CANDIDATE RECEIVES BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID IT'S ILLEGAL TO PLACE LIMITS ON A CANDIDATE'S SELF-FUNDING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. MANY CITIES IN CALIFORNIA HAVE LIMITS IN THIS RANGE. WHEN I DID RESEARCH ON THIS A FEW YEARS AGO, 15 OF 34 CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY HAVE ENACTED THEIR OWN LIMITS. AN AVERAGE OF JUST OVER $1,000. IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, 13 OF 18 CITIES HAVE THEIR OWN LIMITS, WITH AN AVERAGE OF 535. IT DOESN'T MATTER THE SIZE. BIG CITIES LIKE SAN DIEGO AND IRVINE HAVE 620 OR $750 LIMITS. MANY CITIES BIGGER THAN CYPRUS HAVE 200 $250 LIMITS, SO THERE'S PLENTY OF CITIES THAT DO IT THIS WAY. BUT THE OTHER REASON I'D RECOMMEND $500 IS BECAUSE OUR STATE RECENTLY PASSED SOME CONFLICT OF INTEREST RULES SUCH THAT IF A COUNCIL MEMBER GETS A CONTRIBUTION OVER $500, THEY MAY HAVE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES IF THE PARTY WHO GAVE THEM THE MONEY HAS A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN A DECISION COMING UP. I AGREE WITH THE INTENT OF THAT LAW, BUT IT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED. IT CONTAINS A LOT OF EXEMPTIONS, AND SO PEOPLE ARE SORT OF STRUGGLING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN IT APPLIES AND WHEN IT DOESN'T. BUT IF WE WERE TO JUST ADOPT A STRAIGHT $500 LIMIT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY CONTRIBUTIONS OVER THAT LEVEL, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BREAKING THOSE LAWS. SO WHILE I'D BE FINE WITH A 750 OR $1000 LIMIT, I THINK $500 MAKES SENSE FOR THE SAKE OF SIMPLICITY. AND THEN BEFORE WE MOVE ON, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I JUST WANT TO PAUSE AND GIVE MY COLLEAGUES A CHANCE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, ABOUT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS. BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE TRANSPARENCY IDEA, COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, THANK YOU. I SAW THAT IRVINE HAD A CONTRIBUTION LIMIT OF $620, BUT I DID READ IN THE PAPER THAT ONE OF THE CANDIDATES DURING THE IRVINE SPECIAL ELECTION, I THINK FOR I THINK DISTRICT FIVE, THEY RECEIVED SOME 70 OR $80,000 FROM ONE OF THE PACS RELATED TO MCDONALD'S. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE WHEN THERE'S THAT $620 LIMIT? SO I HAVEN'T READ THAT, BUT MY BEST GUESS WOULD BE THAT THAT WAS AN INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE AND NOT A DIRECT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION. AND SO THE SUPREME COURT HAS SORT OF SAID YOU CAN'T LIMIT INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES. SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY. ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE NEXT REFORM I'M GOING TO SUGGEST IS A STRONGER DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT THAT WILL HOPEFULLY ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF MYSTERIOUS MONEY IN ELECTIONS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED IN CYPRUS BACK IN 2012. WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE TWO CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES RECEIVED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WERE ILLEGALLY LAUNDERED BY SOMEONE WHO WAS TRYING TO DISGUISE THE TRUE SOURCE OF THE MONEY. AND 2022. MORE RECENTLY, CYPRUS VOTERS RECEIVED MAILERS FROM A MYSTERIOUS ENTITY CALLED THE SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS PAC. THE PAC SPENT OVER $35,000 TO SUPPORT THEIR PREFERRED CANDIDATES, BUT FROM THE MAILERS, IT WASN'T CLEAR WHO WAS FUNDING THE PAC. IT SAID SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS. DOES THAT MEAN POLICE? DID THAT MEAN FIRE? NOBODY KNEW IT WASN'T UNTIL SOME FORMS BECAME AVAILABLE THROUGH THE COUNTY SYSTEM THAT WE LEARNED THAT THE SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS PAC WAS FUNDED BY A LOCAL DEVELOPER AND LOCAL TRASH COMPANY. SO ALTHOUGH IT'S LEGAL FOR PACS TO USE MYSTERIOUS NAMES TO SEND OUT MAILERS, I THINK MOST OF US AGREE THAT ELECTIONS SHOULD IDEALLY BE FINANCED IN A WAY THAT VOTERS KNOW WHO'S BACKING THE CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT. AND SO SOME CITIES HAVE TAKEN 
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STEPS. NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T PASS A FINANCIAL LIMIT ON THOSE KINDS OF INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES, BUT WE CAN IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY. AND THAT'S WHERE THIS NEXT PROPOSAL COMES IN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WHAT I WANT TO SUGGEST IN THIS AREA IS REQUIRING THE DISCLOSURE OF THE TOP FIVE CONTRIBUTORS ON ADVERTISEMENTS PAID FOR BY INDEPENDENT COMMITTEES, SO THAT ANY INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE THAT'S SENDING OUT A MAILER TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A LOCAL CANDIDATE HAS TO IDENTIFY NOT JUST THEIR COMMITTEE NAME, BUT THE TOP FIVE FUNDERS TO THE COMMITTEE. SO WHEREAS IN 2022, THE MAILERS VOTERS RECEIVED JUST SAID PAID FOR BY THE SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS PAC, IF THIS REFORM WERE IN PLACE, IT WOULD LIST THE SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS PAC WAS FUNDED BY DEVELOPER, TRASH COMPANY, OTHER DEVELOPER, WHOMEVER. IT WOULD JUST BE PRINTED RIGHT ON THE MAILER. AND THAT WAY VOTERS CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHO'S PAYING FOR THE ADS. THEY'RE GETTING. THIS TYPE OF DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT IS ALSO NOTHING NEW. THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS MANY LAWS LIKE THIS. SOME CITIES HAVE ENACTED THEIR OWN DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS JUST LIKE THIS, AND I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO TO COMBAT WHAT'S KNOWN AS DARK MONEY. AND SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE LAST IDEA, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE ENHANCED DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT? I HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GOING TO WAIT TILL THE END, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE OTHER POTENTIAL CHANGE I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS ARE PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS. AND THIS IS A SYSTEM IN WHICH CANDIDATES WHO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE AT LEAST SOME PUBLIC FUNDING FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN. STATES INCLUDING MAINE, CONNECTICUT, ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO CITIES, ALBUQUERQUE, SEATTLE, BALTIMORE, DENVER AND OTHERS HAVE PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A, IN MY OPINION, A GOLD STANDARD TO DIMINISH THE INFLUENCE OF SPECIAL INTERESTS, IMPROVE PUBLIC TRUST, GIVE CANDIDATES WHO AREN'T COZY WITH SPECIAL INTERESTS OR INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY A CHANCE TO SUCCEED. PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS ARE THE BEST OPTION. 
          WHAT THEY MOST EFFECTIVELY DO IS DIMINISH THE NEED FOR SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY AND ENSURE THAT ELECTIONS ARE FUNDED MORE SO BY THE COMMUNITY THAT THE CANDIDATES ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING TO REPRESENT. THEY ALSO TEND TO INCREASE ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE THESE SYSTEMS INCENTIVIZE CANDIDATES TO GO OUT, TALK TO MORE VOTERS, GET $5 CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AS MUCH IN THE NORMAL SYSTEM. AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE WAY THAT PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS WORK IS USUALLY ONE OF TWO WAYS. FIRST IS CALLED A MATCHING FUND SYSTEM. AND THAT'S WHERE A CANDIDATE WHO, SAY, RAISES AT LEAST $1,000 FROM 20 DIFFERENT CONTRIBUTORS MIGHT GET 3 TO 6 TIMES THAT AMOUNT IN MATCHING FUNDS FROM THEIR CITY. THE OTHER IS A LUMP SUM SYSTEM IN WHICH CANDIDATES WHO RAISE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THEIR OWN GET A LUMP SUM TO FUND THE REMAINDER OF THEIR CAMPAIGN. ONE KEY POINT ABOUT THESE SYSTEMS IS THAT THEY MUST BE VOLUNTARY RATHER THAN MANDATORY. YOU CAN'T FORCE CANDIDATES TO RUN A PUBLICLY FINANCED CAMPAIGN, SO CANDIDATES HAVE A CHOICE. IF THEY'D LIKE TO RUN A PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTION ELECTION AND PURSUE THAT PATH, OR JUST RUN A TYPICAL, TYPICAL WAY. BUT YOU CAN'T COMPEL CANDIDATES EITHER WAY. SO BIG PICTURE. I THINK PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS ARE A WONDERFUL WAY TO EMPHASIZE FOCUS ON THE COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND I'M NEARING THE END. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. NOW, THE ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO MY COLLEAGUES I'VE BROUGHT UP THREE IDEAS TONIGHT. CONTRIBUTION LIMITS, IMPROVED DISCLOSURE AND PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS. THE FIRST TWO ARE REALLY SIMPLE AND EASY, AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, WE DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE FOR CONTRIBUTION LIMITS AND ENHANCED DISCLOSURE. 
          PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS ARE A MUCH MORE NUANCED CONVERSATION AND WOULD REQUIRE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT KIND WE MIGHT WANT HERE. AND SO IF THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN THAT, I'D RECOMMEND WE COME BACK AT A LATER DATE. AND I CAN SUGGEST SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS. BUT THAT'S IT, AND I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR CONVERSATION. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS ON PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTIES ARE DOING THIS? SO NO OTHER CITIES IN ORANGE 
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COUNTY HAVE HAVE THESE? THESE ARE JUST NOT VERY COMMON YET. BUT I THINK THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, A GROWING PHENOMENON, COUNCILMEMBER PETE. SO WHO FUNDS IT? SO WHERE DO THE MONIES COME FROM? SO PUBLICLY FINANCED? I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. SORRY. OH, SORRY. I'M GOING TO GO BACK. SURE. SO PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS ARE FINANCED BY THE PUBLIC, AND THAT MEANS RESIDENTS TAX DOLLARS TYPICALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE PUBLIC FUNDS. AND I KNOW THAT I THINK THE MOST COMMON, OR MAYBE EVEN ONLY TALKING POINTS, I HEAR IN OPPOSITION TO PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS IS I DON'T WANT MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO FUND A CANDIDATE WHO I DON'T SUPPORT, RIGHT. I'D SAY THERE'S A COUPLE COUPLE POINTS I'D MAKE IN RESPONSE TO THAT. FIRST, THE MONEY FOR ELECTIONS IS GOING TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. CANDIDATES NEED MAILERS AND FLIERS AND CAMPAIGN SIGNS. IT'S EITHER GOING TO COME FROM SELF-FUNDING SPECIAL INTERESTS OR INDIVIDUAL DONORS. AND I UNDERSTAND IN CONCEPT YOU SAY I DON'T WANT MY TAX DOLLARS. WELL, IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T WANT YOUR TAX DOLLARS, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED BY MORE BY SPECIAL INTERESTS AND LESS BY THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY. THE SECOND POINT IS, IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR SPECIFIC TAX DOLLARS SUPPORTING A CANDIDATE YOU DON'T SUPPORT, THERE'S A REAL EASY WAY AROUND THAT. MAKE A DONATION TO A CANDIDATE YOU DO SUPPORT, AND THEN YOU CONTROL WHERE YOUR TAX DOLLARS GO. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. THE KIND OF CRITICISM ON THAT ISSUE. 
          SO SO LET ME CLARIFY. THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY OUT. IT'S REALLY THE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD PAY FOR DOING THAT. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? IT'S NOT. THE CITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THE CITY HAS NO MONEY'S GOING OUT. IT'S THE RESIDENTS WHO END UP PAYING IN THAT CASE. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? WELL, IT'S THE CITY. IT'S. SO IF YOU GIVE ME A DOLLAR TO THE CITY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE CITY TO GIVE ME A DOLLAR. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? YEAH, THAT'S THE CITY. AND WE'RE. SO I'M ASKING MAYBE. MATT, WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM? IF WE WERE TO DO THAT? NO IDEA. OKAY, WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SOMETHING NEW, I GET IT, I GET SOMETHING NEW. I CAUGHT YOU SPEECHLESS. I NEVER CATCH YOU SPEECHLESS. SO. OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS. AND I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT WE COULD BE HERE PROBABLY FOR THE NEXT HOUR. FIRST OF ALL, FOR OUR RESIDENTS, I WANT TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR WHAT THE MAYOR IS PROPOSING IS CHANGING OUR CHARTER. OKAY. THE CHARTER IN THE CITY SAYS HOW WE RUN ELECTIONS AND WHERE THE MONEY IS AND WHAT THE THE THE THINGS ARE. OKAY, NOW, THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON. WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. BUT I QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS AN ELECTION OF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. I DO WONDER IF THERE SHOULDN'T BE MORE INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS RATHER THAN US MAKING AN ORDINANCE SAYING WE WANT TO MAKE THIS CHANGE. BUT ANYWAY, SO JUST TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, THE CHARTER WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE, OKAY. AND WE'D HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN OTHER THINGS. BUT AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO THE BASIC THINGS THAT IT'S OUR CITY CHARTER. 
          OKAY. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE CYPRESS HISTORY, PLEASE. YEAH. AND I GUESS CAN I PAUSE FOR A SECOND? MR. CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU CAN YOU ANSWER COUNCILMEMBER PETE'S COMMENT? MY EXPERIENCE TELLS ME THAT CITY'S PAST CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS AS ORDINANCE ORDINANCES. I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS TO COME THROUGH A CHARTER AMENDMENT. THE ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT IS GENERALLY CORRECT. UNLESS YOUR CHARTER SPEAKS TO THE ISSUE, IN WHICH CASE, IF IT IS CONTRARY TO THE PROVISION IN THE CHARTER, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS. I'M NO. LET ME CLARIFY. I HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. OKAY. IT'S AN ORDINANCE AND IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT CHANGES THE LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER. SO YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. IT IS AN ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S A CHANGE TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE CHARTER FOR WAY BACK WHEN. 
          THAT'S THAT REALLY WAS MY COMMENT. YEAH. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT NOW. I GUESS WE CAN TAKE A LOOK. RIGHT. BUT IT IS SECTION 902. OKAY. ON THE CYPRESS HISTORY. THIS IS WHERE I GOT A LITTLE SETBACK TODAY AS TO LIKE WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? OKAY. AND WHERE DOES THIS INFORMATION AND WHAT'S THE FACTS AND DATA BEHIND IT. BECAUSE WE COULD PROBABLY LIST CANDIDATES IN EACH ONE OF THESE. AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT CANDIDATES RECEIVED ILLEGAL CONTRIBUTIONS. OKAY. SO THE FIRST ONE, ILLEGALLY LAUNDERED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS. YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT TWO CANDIDATES, WHOEVER THEY WERE, BASICALLY 
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DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL. AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE IF THEY DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED OUT 15 YEARS AGO. OKAY. SO YOU'RE MAKING A VERY BLANK STATEMENT THAT I THINK IS IS MISLEADING TO THE RESIDENTS. I'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT YOU CAN FIND THE FPPC. FINE. OH, I'M AWARE OF THAT. YEAH. AND THEY SAID IT WAS ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING. THAT'S A DIFFERENT SUBJECT THAN WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE. YOU'RE CLAIMING THAT A TWO LOCAL CANDIDATES ACCEPTED ILLEGALLY LAUNDERED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS VERSUS THERE WAS AN FPPC VIOLATION FOR A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL? I'LL SAY I SEPARATE THE TWO. SO I'M NOT I'M MAYBE I'M UNCLEAR ON EXACTLY WHAT THE THE INFORMATION IS, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I DIDN'T HAVE THIS INFORMATION BEFORE 10:00 THIS MORNING. SO THE SECOND ONE ON THE PACK, IT IMPLIES HERE THAT THE PACK SPENT $35,000 FOR CANDIDATES THEY DID NOT SUPPORT AND GIVE ANY MONEY TO CANDIDATES. WHAT IT MISSES HERE IS THEY DID AN INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE WHERE THEY SENT OUT THOSE FLIERS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE. SO I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE HISTORY, THIS IS WHY I HAVE A PROBLEM. YOU PUT PRESENTATION OUT THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO MISLEAD, AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW IS GOING TO COME OUT AND SAYING, LOOK AT THIS. AND THEY'RE GOING TO MISSTATE WHAT THE FACTS ARE, OKAY? AND I'LL GO BACK. I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO CLARIFY THAT ONE. THAT STATEMENT IS ABSOLUTELY 100% ACCURATE. THE SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS PAC SPENT OVER $35,000 AND THEY CHECKED THE BOX ON THE FORM SAYING THEY SUPPORT, AND THEY IDENTIFIED THE CANDIDATES THEY SUPPORT. RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. BUT I THINK I THINK IF YOU WANTED TO DO THIS AND YOU WANTED TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RESIDENTS, YOU WANT TO SAY THEY PAC SPENT $35,000 IN INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES TO SUPPORT THEM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE MAKING IT MISLEADING THAT THESE CANDIDATES ACCEPTED MONIES AND THEY DID NOT ACCEPT MONIES. OKAY. I'M JUST BEING WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE LIKE THIS, IT'S IT'S CONCERNING OF MISLEADING. WHAT'S MISLEADING? WHERE DO YOU GET ACCEPT. BECAUSE ALL I SEE IS THIS PAC SPENT. YEAH. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING EXCEPT WHERE'S THE. NO. IT SAYS SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS. PAC SPENT $35,000. EXCEPT WHERE DOES IT SAY ACCEPT? I APOLOGIZE, IT MAY BE MY LIPS ARE SO DRY. SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS. PAC SPENT $35,000 IN INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES TO SUPPORT THREE CITY COUNCIL CASES. ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. HE HAS THE FORM. I AGREE. THEY SPENT THE MONEY TO SUPPORT THOSE CANDIDATES. I AGREE, BUT MY THING IS DON'T MISLEAD CANDIDATE. DON'T MISLEAD THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY COULD SAY SUPPORT. OH THEY GAVE THEM BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. I'VE SEEN ARTICLES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE CONTRIBUTED THAT HAVE SAID IT, THAT WE'VE ACCEPTED CASH CONTRIBUTIONS AND MORE RECENTLY IT HAS COME BACK TO CHANGE AND BE MORE ACCURATE. SO MY POINT IN SAYING THIS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THIS, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE STATEMENT. 
          I'M JUST SAYING ADD CLARITY IN TERMS OF EXACTLY HOW IT LINKS TO THE INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU HAVE LATER ON, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THEY SPENT ON THREE CANDIDATES. SO THEY GAVE SO MUCH TO SO AND SO, SO MUCH TO SO MUCH SO, SO MUCH TO SO AND SO. I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARITY ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ON THE NONPROFIT. DO YOU WANT TO GET INTO THAT NOW OR WOULD YOU RATHER DO THAT AT A LATER TIME? I SPEAK I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO HAS A QUESTION. OKAY. OR COMMENT. 
          SURE. THIS FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, WE NEED NO MORE TIME TO PROCESS IT AND TALK ABOUT IT. IT'S A PRESENTATION THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE. I THINK I JUST NEED MORE TIME. AND I THINK MANY OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THE SAME WAY TOO. SECOND, WHEN I SEE REFORMS, I THINK MORE THAN JUST CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORMS. I KNOW BRITTANY SITTING IN THE BACK THERE, AND I DON'T MEAN TO CALL HER OUT, BUT I KNOW WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS, SHE HAD SOME IDEAS AS FAR AS, HEY, AS FAR AS CAMPAIGNS, EVERYTHING FROM SIGNS TO HEY, A SO FORTH. SO I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND SO I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO BROADEN THIS DISCUSSION. WE HAVE SOME TIME BEFORE THE ELECTION. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO I DON'T WANT TO JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER. LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS UP AND TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS. 
          OTHER THING TOO IS I JUST WANT TO GET IT CLEAR IN MY MIND, REFORM NUMBER ONE AND REFORM NUMBER TWO REQUIRE ZERO TAX DOLLARS. AND THEN THE FOURTH THING I WANT TO PUT OUT THERE 
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IS I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT LAUNCH POINT. WE SHOULD HIT PAUSE FROM THIS BECAUSE WE COULD TALK LITERALLY FOR HOURS. AND WE GO AHEAD AND FOCUS ON THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, GETTING A NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN HERE, AND THEN HEARING THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PERSPECTIVE ON THIS TOPIC, BECAUSE I THINK IT AFFECTS A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND I THINK THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE FIFTH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER'S OPINION ON THIS, BECAUSE I THINK MAYBE WE MIGHT BE TOO CLOSE TO THIS, JUST HAVING GOTTEN OUT OF ELECTION OURSELVES IN 2022. AND AS WE TRANSITION TO DISTRICTS, I THINK RIGHT NOW, WE SOMETIMES OVERLY FOCUS ON CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORMS. AND ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, BRITTANY, I'M GOING TO CALL YOU OUT, BUT YOU HAD A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS AND I'D LIKE TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN GO AND EXPAND THIS AND SAY AND GO AND EXPAND THIS AND SAY MAYBE, MAYBE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE WE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HERE IN THE CITY OF CYPRESS, WE HAVE A LOT OF LIMITATIONS ON CAMPAIGN AND SO FORTH. WE LIMIT WHEN PEOPLE CAN PUT UP. SIGNS. AND SO 45 DAYS, THE REST OF OTHER I BELIEVE THE REST OF THE COUNTY IS 90 DAYS. WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE STUFF THAT WE INTRODUCE AS FAR AS REFORMS AND LIMITATIONS. SO A FINANCE REFORM IS ONE OUT OF MANY THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. WE CURRENTLY AN LA COUNTY HAS ITS OWN SET OF OF LIMITATIONS. YOU CAN'T PUT TWO SIGNS NEXT TO EACH OTHER THAT ARE EXACTLY THE SAME. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE ONE CANDIDATE WITH TWO DIFFERENT DESIGNS OF OF SIGNS. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS WILL LAUNCH A LOT OF OTHER DISCUSSIONS. AND I THINK CAMPAIGN FINANCE IS ONE OUT OF MANY CONCERNS THAT VOTERS HAVE AND RESIDENTS HAVE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEM, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF AND AND CUT ANY OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS OFF WITH THEIR POINTS. I DO THINK THAT THIS OPENS UP A BIG DISCUSSION, AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE PLACE TO DO IT TONIGHT, BUT MAYBE RATHER ANOTHER PLACE. AND MAYBE WE CAN SEE HOW. FROM YOUR PRIOR EXPERIENCE, CITY MANAGER AND CITY OF IRVINE AND OTHER ONES, HOW THEY ATTACKED IT AND DEALT WITH THE CAMPAIGN REFORM IN A MANNER THAT WAS EFFICIENT. 
          ANYWAYS, I'M OPEN FOR THOUGHTS AND THAT'S I WON'T SAY I DIDN'T WANT TO STEAL YOUR THUNDER ANYONE'S THUNDER HERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW THOSE IDEAS OUT. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE YEAH, I MEAN, THE REASON I KEEP SAYING I WANT TO CONTINUE THIS IS BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A BIG TOPIC. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE HAVE SAID CONSISTENTLY, WE GOT A LOT GOING ON. WE'VE GOT AN INTERIM CITY MANAGER, WE HAVE A NEW CITY CLERK. CONGRATULATIONS, LISA. WE HAVE OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR RETIRING. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AND WE'RE GOING INTO OUR SECOND DISTRICT ELECTION NEXT YEAR. AND IN MY MIND, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MAYBE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHERE HE WAS GOING WITH THIS OR NOT, BUT I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A BIGGER, BROADER DISCUSSION TO HAVE. BUT I THINK WE GET THROUGH THE ELECTION. LET'S GET THROUGH THE ELECTION. WE'VE GOT AN OPEN SEAT. WE'RE GOING TO FILL THAT WITH THE PERSON AND LET'S GET THROUGH THE ELECTION TO SEE HOW IT WORKS. AND THEN WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? HERE'S WHAT DISTRICT ELECTIONS BRING US AND WHY WHY WE NEED TO MAKE UPDATES OR CHANGES. BUT I, I THINK I'M ON THE SAME PAGE AS YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, BUT AND THEN LIKE I SAID, IT BRINGS UP FOR ME A LOT OF QUESTIONS JUST ABOUT THE NONPROFIT IN GENERAL. BUT ANYWAY, MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THROUGH THE ELECTIONS AND GO AHEAD AND THEN DEAL WITH THIS AFTER THE ELECTION. HOWEVER, BRITTANY BROUGHT THIS UP JULY 1ST OR RIGHT BEFORE THE IT WAS A REASON WHY I MISSED THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION, BECAUSE I SAID, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU TWO. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU HALF AN HOUR, TURN INTO TWO HOURS WITH A GREAT FEEDBACK FROM BRITTANY. SO THAT WAS JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS NOW FOR SIX MONTHS. BY WHETHER YOU SAY FINANCE REFORM, CAMPAIGN REFORM. SO IF YOU WANT TO SIT ON IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR, THAT'S 18 MONTHS. 
          AND THEN I COULD SEE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD SAY, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU EXACTLY? WHY DOES IT TAKE A YEAR AND A HALF TO GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS THIS MATTER? SO I CAN SAY LIKE, HEY, I APOLOGIZE, BRITTANY, WE'RE TAKING A LONG TIME AND SO PLEASE BEAR WITH US. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, COUNCILMEMBER CHANG, I SAW YOU TAPPING. YEAH, I'M FINE WITH WAITING TILL EARLY NEXT YEAR IN DECEMBER. OR MAYBE AFTER WE WE GET THROUGH THIS COUNCIL MEMBER POSITION, BUSINESS AND TACKLING IN JANUARY OR EARLY NEXT YEAR I. YEAH. AND I SUPPORT MAYOR PRO TEM MAYOR PRO TEM ADORNO'S IDEA OF EXPANDING THIS DISCUSSION. I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT BRITTANY SIGNS. FOR ME, WHAT ANNOYS ME IS THOSE BIG SIGNS THAT EVERYBODY ALWAYS HAS. BUT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER IDEAS YOU GUYS HAVE? PLEASE SEND IT TO MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO AND WE'LL ORGANIZE IT AND TALK ABOUT IT NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, SO BASED ON THE WHAT I'M HEARING, I'M WONDERING IF A PATH FORWARD, IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THERE'S OTHER IDEAS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE REGARDING CAMPAIGN AND ELECTIONS, WHICH MAKES SENSE. ON THE OTHER HAND, IT DOES. 
          IT'S A PROCESS TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE, READ THE ORDINANCE, ETC. SO I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE 
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DIRECTING STAFF, IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN AT LEAST THE SIMPLEST REFORMS TO COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE IN LIKE DRAFT IN JANUARY MIGHT MAKE SENSE IN THAT WAY. WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER SEATED, AND THE ORDINANCE WOULDN'T BE FINALIZED UNTIL FEBRUARY OR MARCH. BUT IF WE WAIT MUCH LONGER THAN THAT, THEN PEOPLE MIGHT ALREADY START KIND OF RUNNING IN 2026. SO I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, BUT I WASN'T SURE WHAT TIMING KIND OF COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG OR MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO HAD IN MIND WHEN YOU SAID, WAIT A BIT OR OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION FURTHER. 
          I WAS THINKING DECEMBER, JANUARY? WELL, DECEMBER IS REALLY SHORT. SMALL. ONLY ONE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN DECEMBER, RIGHT? WELL THEN. SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH JANUARY. I'M SORRY. THE DISCUSSION SHOULD BE ON THE MICROPHONE. SO. OKAY. THANKS. SORRY. SO SO DECEMBER IS REALLY NOT MUCH OF A TIME FRAME BECAUSE NEXT WEEK. AND THAT'S GOING TO BRING US TO THE NEXT NEXT WEEK WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATES. RIGHT. AND THEN DECEMBER 1ST MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SWEAR IN THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. AND THEN THAT'S IT FOR THE MEETINGS IN DECEMBER WE HAVE THE HOLIDAY SING AND THEN WE'RE OFF TO 2020 6TH JANUARY. SO PRETTY MUCH THIS DISCUSSION THEN TAKES PLACE WITH THE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN JANUARY. AND IN THE INTERIM WE HAVE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, REALLY TO GET FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE OF CYPRUS ON, HEY, WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THESE FINANCE REFORMS? ONE, 2 OR 3, I'M SORRY, ONE, TWO OR THE ALSO THE THIRD ONE. AND THEN ALSO ANY OTHER IDEAS HOW YOU WANT TO SEE YOUR ELECTIONS DONE? I KNOW WE'RE IN DISTRICTS AND 40% OF PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED DISTRICT VOTING, 60% HAVEN'T. HOWEVER, THOUGH 100% OF ALL CYPRUS RESIDENTS HAVE EXPERIENCED DISTRICT VOTING IN THE FORM OF CYPRUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SO IT'S NOT ENTIRELY A NEW THING. DISTRICTS. WE'VE HAD THEM FOR OVER A DECADE. SO. AND WE'VE LEARNED FROM CYPRUS SCHOOL DISTRICT. YEAH, I'VE GONE AND TALKED TO ALL THE CYPRUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS. OR YOU TRY TO TALK WITH THEM AND SAY, HEY, GET FEEDBACK ON HOW THEY RUN THEIR ELECTIONS AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK. SO. I'M THINKING, JANUARY, WE READDRESS THIS, BUT I'LL PAUSE THERE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YEAH, I THINK I THINK I HAVE A MOTION IN MIND BASED ON THE CONVERSATION. BUT I'M COUNCIL MEMBER PETE. GO AHEAD PLEASE. YEAH. I DON'T SEE HOW WE DIRECT STAFF TO DO AN ORDINANCE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT THAT ORDINANCE LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE IF I WERE SEAN, OKAY, OR EVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY, I WOULD SAY SO WHAT DO YOU WANT IT TO SAY? AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO LEAD TO MORE DISCUSSION AMONGST US ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT IT TO SAY. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THE WHOLE CONVERSATION AND I'M OKAY HAVING IT. IN JANUARY. WHOLE CONVERSATION MOVED TO JANUARY WITH WHATEVER ADDITIONS WE WANT TO MAKE, AND THEN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND WHEN DOES IT APPLY. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO GIVE ANY TYPE OF DIRECTION WITHOUT HAVING AN AGREEMENT AMONGST US. AND I WOULD JUST ADD, ANY DIRECTION THE COUNCIL PROVIDES OBVIOUSLY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE VARIOUS POINTS THAT YOU RAISED IN YOUR SLIDES. MAYOR. THANK YOU. YES. SO WHAT I HAVE IN MIND IS THAT WE COME BACK WITH A DRAFT OF AN ORDINANCE AT THE JANUARY MEETING FOR THE THAT INCLUDES THE $500 CONTRIBUTION LIMITS AND THE DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT FOR THE TOP FIVE FUNDERS ON INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE ADS. AND AS SOMEONE WHO'S READ A LOT AND WRITTEN SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES, IT'S IT'S JUST A LOT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU. THERE'S A LOT OF KIND OF UNIQUE CLAUSES IN THERE, THINGS YOU DO TO PREVENT WORKAROUNDS FROM THE CONTRIBUTION LIMITS. AND SO I YEAH, I WILL I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE FOR THE JANUARY MEETING THAT INCLUDES $500 CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS AND AN ADDED DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT REQUIRING THE TOP FIVE FUNDERS OF INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE COMMITTEES TO BE LISTED ON ADS BY THOSE COMMITTEES. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO SO I'LL SECOND THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR MY UNDERSTANDING, FROM WHAT I'VE READ, THAT REQUIRES ZERO TAX DOLLARS, CORRECT. PERFORM NUMBER ONE AND REFORM NUMBER TWO. CORRECT. ZERO TAX DOLLARS. MY OPINIONS. YES, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WANTS TO WEIGH IN. OKAY. THEN I'LL SECOND IT. MOTION. YEAH I MADE A MOTION AND YOU SECONDED IT. SO. AND I SHOULD CHECK. MR. CITY ATTORNEY, YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO CONSTITUTE A COHERENT MOTION. 
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SO I HAVE TWO POINTS SUGGESTED IN YOUR MOTION THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IMPOSE A CAMPAIGN LIMIT CONTRIBUTION LIMIT OF $500, AS WELL AS DISCLOSURE OF TOP FIVE CONTRIBUTORS ON ADVERTISEMENTS PAID FOR BY INDEPENDENT COMMITTEES. YES, THAT SOUNDS ACCURATE TO ME. AND THAT IS TO COME BACK IN JANUARY. THE DRAFT. OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS TO CLOSE THE CONVERSATION, MAYOR PRO TEM OR COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, DID YOU WANT TO ALSO AGENDIZE LIKE A THAT KIND OF EXPANDED DISCUSSION YOU ALLUDED TO FOR JANUARY? OR WOULD YOU RATHER TAKE A LITTLE TIME AND JUST WAIT AND THINK ABOUT WHEN TO MAYBE CONSIDER SIGN ORDINANCES OR WHAT HAVE YOU? I APOLOGIZE, BRITTANY, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED ANOTHER TWO MORE MONTHS. WAIT TILL THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IS ON BOARD. AND THEN IN JANUARY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE EXPANDED CAMPAIGN REFORM. AND THEN IF I FORGET IN JANUARY, HIT ME OVER THE HEAD, PLEASE. 
          ALRIGHT. OH, SORRY. SORRY, MAYOR. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDING THIS TO OUR DISCUSSION OR AS AN AGENDA ITEM IN JANUARY. IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THESE CAMPAIGN DISCLOSURE REFORMS ALL TOGETHER. OKAY. AND SO I MEAN, WE'VE WE VOTED YES. YES. I DON'T BELIEVE THE VOTE WAS ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED. IT WAS DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN. OKAY. CAN YOU PLEASE ANNOUNCE THE VOTE? YES. THAT VOTE PASSED WITH THREE YES VOTES AND ONE DISSENTING VOTE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER PETE. OKAY. AND THEN IF ANYONE HAS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, THOSE CAN BE AGENDIZED IN THE 
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LATER PORTION OF THIS MEETING. THAT BRINGS US TO OUR SECOND ORAL COMMUNICATIONS PERIOD. AND I HAVE STEVE MOUSE AND BROOKE. MAYOR. THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS, AFTER ALL THE TIME WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER, YOU CALL ME MOUSE, IT'S MOSS. MY APOLOGIES, MR. MOSS. THANK YOU. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU. AND I, TOO, WOULD LIKE TO JUST CALM THINGS DOWN AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING POSITIVE INSTEAD. IF WE COULD, PLEASE. 
          THAT IS. THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS IS SPONSORING A VERY LARGE MULTI-FAITH ENVIRONMENT CALLED A NIGHT IN BETHLEHEM, WHERE THERE WILL BE A MOCK DISPLAY OF THE TOWN OF BETHLEHEM SET UP OUTDOORS, WHERE YOU CAN COME AND PARTICIPATE IN VARIOUS ACTIVITIES LIKE HEBREW DANCING, PETTING ZOO, ETC. FOLLOWED RIGHT AFTER WITH A SHOW OF THE LIVE NATIVITY SCENE AND A BRIEF RECEPTION WITH COOKIES AND HOT CHOCOLATE. THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS INVITED AND IT'S MANY DIFFERENT CHARITIES ARE INVOLVED AS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S A FOOD, TOY AND CLOTHING DONATION GOING ALONG WITH IT. AND IN ADDITION, LOTS OF CITIES ARE ENGAGED IN IT. NOT JUST CYPRUS, BUT ALL OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES ARE INVOLVED IN EVEN PORTIONS OF LONG BEACH. AND SO WE ARE ASKING BECAUSE WE ARE EXPECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. WE ARE ASKING THAT FOLKS GO TO THE WEBSITE A NIGHT IN BETHLEHEM, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO SPELL THAT.ORG AND GET FREE TICKETS. THE TICKETS ARE FREE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SCHEDULE THE PEOPLE THROUGH SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC AND FIRE MARSHAL PROBLEM. SO PLEASE VISIT WE. AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS THAT IT IS A FREE EVENT, BUT WE DO NEED PEOPLE TO GET TICKETS. IF I COULD GIVE A COUPLE OF CARDS TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF THE CITY CLERK COULD HAND THOSE TO THEM, THERE IS ON THE BACK A QR CODE FOR YOU GUYS THAT ARE PHONE ORIENTED. I'M GETTING SO OLD I HAVE TO DO THINGS ON A COMPUTER SCREEN. BUT YOU CAN. YOU CAN GET YOUR TICKETS, YOUR FREE TICKETS ON ON YOUR PHONE SCREEN TOO, IF YOU'D LIKE. AND WE'RE 
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INVITING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL EVENT, AND I'D ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET TICKETS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, THOUGH, BECAUSE WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK, MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE TICKETS WERE ALREADY ALLOCATED. SO PLEASE GO QUICKLY AND IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL EVENT AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING WITH EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU. BROOKE, TO BE FOLLOWED BY DOCTOR FRANCIS MARQUEZ. HEY, BEFORE I START SPEAKING, I WAS TOLD THAT I BY MAYOR BURKE, I WASN'T ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM HERE, BUT NO, I DIDN'T SAY THAT. I JUST YOU CAN PAUSE THE TIMER. I MEANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE NEW FORMAT WHERE. OH YEAH, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING YET. SO YOUR EARLIER CARDS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW. OKAY. GOTCHA. GOTCHA, GOTCHA. OKAY. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. 
          GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANKS. MY NAME IS BROOKE, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD TAKE PLACE UNTIL WE'VE DONE A FULL CYCLE OF ELECTIONS BY ALL DISTRICTS. AND WE HAVE A SEATED COUNCIL THAT HAS BEEN ELECTED BY THE RESIDENTS. WE'RE GETTING READY TO APPOINT A VACANT SEAT. I KEEP HEARING THE WORD TRANSPARENCY, TRANSPARENCY, TRANSPARENCY. MAYOR BURKE'S BEEN INVOLVED. WHAT SOME MIGHT LABEL PAY TO PLAY A RESIDENT DONATED TO HIM, AND THEN HE VOTED TO HAVE THAT PERSON APPOINTED TO A COMMISSION. HE ACCEPTED THREE DONATIONS BETWEEN 500 AND $999 DURING HIS CAMPAIGN. HE HAS SIX DONATIONS THAT WERE OVER 1000, ONE OF WHICH WAS $4,900 FROM A RESIDENT IN 2005 HUNDRED IN GOODS AND SERVICES, WHICH WAS NOT EVEN ADDRESSED IN THE PRESENTATION. BACK THIS SUMMER, I OPENED AN INQUIRY WITH THE FPPC IN REGARDS TO HIS NONPROFIT, AND I DID THAT KNOWING THEY WERE PROBABLY GOING TO SAY IT WAS OKAY. THE COMMISSION IS FULLY PARTIZAN AT THAT POINT, BUT I WAS HOPING TO LEARN SOME INFORMATION AND LO AND BEHOLD, I DID. THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WERE INTERESTING, HE STATED IN HIS RESPONSE TO THE FPPC THAT HE SERVES THE ORGANIZATION AS AN UNPAID VOLUNTEER, AND THERE'S FORMS THAT HE HAS TO FILL OUT, AND THOSE FORMS WERE ATTACHED. SO FROM 2022 TO 2024, HIS NONPROFIT TOOK IN TOTAL REVENUES OF $40,918.04, AND IT PAID COMPENSATION TO STAFF OF $31,668.01. THERE WAS NO PROOF OF WHAT EMPLOYEES WERE PAID SUBMITTED WITH THE RESPONSE. SO WHO DID HE PAY, AND WERE ANY OF THOSE FAMILY AND FRIENDS? WERE THE MONEY COULD HAVE PASSED THROUGH? IT'S NOT WASN'T CLEAR IF THE AMOUNTS INCLUDED THE SALE OF GOODS, BECAUSE HE DOES SELL SOFT GOODS ON HIS WEBSITE, MULTIPLE RESIDENTS HAVE REPEATEDLY REQUESTED DISCLOSURE OF HIS DONORS AND HE REFUSES TO DO SO. SO WHAT? RESIDENTS ARE POTENTIALLY INFLUENCING THE REFORM THAT YOU HAVE SEEN? ONE THING THAT IS ALL RESIDENTS AND COUNCIL CAN AGREE ON THE 460 FORM FREQUENCY PROBABLY COULD BE TWEAKED, AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD OBJECT TO THAT. 
          AND I'M SURPRISED I DIDN'T SEE THAT HERE BECAUSE HE'S TALKED ABOUT THAT. UNIONS. WHEN YOU AND I'M PROUD TO SAY I WAS A FORMER UNION, I'M ONE OF THE FEW THAT PROBABLY HAS BEEN. AND I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH MY HANDS BUILDING SUBMARINES AND AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND THE UNIONS, IF THEY FORM A PACK, YOU CAN'T PICK THE HIGHEST DONOR TO THAT PACK ON THE ADVERTISEMENTS. THEY'RE GOING BY UNION DUES THAT FLOW IN. SO THE LANGUAGE THAT I'VE SEEN HERE PRESENTS AN ISSUE. SO I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO STEP BACK AND HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL THIS VERSUS WRITING AN ORDINANCE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCES HERE AND I'M DOWN TO EIGHT SECONDS. BUT ANYHOW, THERE'LL BE MORE. THANK YOU, DOCTOR FRANCIS MARQUEZ, FOLLOWED BY JOHN PETE. QUICK. I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP REGARDING THE AGENDA WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE SERVED ON THE COUNCIL AND I WANTED TO, IN MY APPLICATION, ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE THE AGENDA BE SET TEN DAYS BEFORE. SO THE RESIDENTS AND STAFF AND EVERYBODY HAS TIME TO LOOK AT IT OFTEN AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WE GET THE AGENDA AND YOU ONLY HAVE LIKE ONE BUSINESS DAY ON MONDAY TO REALLY, LIKE ASK QUESTIONS AND IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME. SO I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF IRVINE, I'VE HEARD, HAS GETS THEIR AGENDA PUT OUT TEN DAYS AHEAD OF TIME. IF WE COULD LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD. 
          THAT WAY PEOPLE HAVE TIME TO DO RESEARCH AND LOOK AT THE ISSUES AND SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. AND I, MAYOR BURKE, I TOTALLY, WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT YOUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE IDEAS. I THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL. I THINK WE THERE'S THE INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE ISSUE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE HERE IN OUR 
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CITY. AND I THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL RECEIVE MONEY INDIRECTLY WITH AN EXPLAIN AN INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE CAMPAIGN IS WHEN SOMEBODY RUNS A SEPARATE CAMPAIGN FOR A CANDIDATE AND THE CANDIDATE DOESN'T HAVE TO DISCLOSE IT ON THEIR FORMS. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW WHO INDIRECTLY GAVE THAT FUNDING TO THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OR TO THE CANDIDATE. IT'S CRITICAL. WE SAW FROM 2012 TO 2020, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CANDIDATES THAT WERE FUNDED BY A CITY CONTRACTOR. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT FAIR TO CANDIDATES WHO ARE TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE PHONE CALLS TO ASK PEOPLE FOR $25, $50, 100, WHATEVER AMOUNT IT IS. SO I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY GETS MONEY INDIRECTLY THAT THEY SHOULD STAY ON THE DAIS, THEY SHOULD RECUSE THEMSELVES OR DISCLOSE IT TO THE PUBLIC. IN JANUARY OF 2022, WHEN THE VOTE WAS FOR THE TRASH CONTRACT, IT WAS EXTENDED TEN YEARS WITH A 32% RATE INCREASE. THAT'S NOT FIXED. THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T DISCLOSING THAT INFORMATION, AND THAT'S CRITICAL. THE RESIDENTS SHOULD KNOW WHERE EVERY DOLLAR, EVERY CENT COMES FROM. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT I PROPOSED HAVING A CONTRACT COMPLIANCE OFFICER FOR OUR CITY. I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT WHENEVER ANYBODY WE HAVE THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER, WHEN SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, THAT THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, FORM THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER AND ANYBODY ELSE ON THAT TEAM MAKING A DECISION SHOULD ALSO CONFLICT OUT. IF THEY CAN'T CONFLICT OUT, THEY SHOULDN'T BE A PART OF THE PROCESS. AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE GOOD STEWARDS OF CYPRUS TAXPAYER DOLLARS. I THINK IT'S CRITICAL. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          YOU KNOW, IN MY EYES, IF YOU'RE NOT DISCLOSING INFORMATION BEFORE YOU TAKE A VOTE WITH AN EYE IN MY EYES, IT'S UNETHICAL AND IMMORAL. THANK YOU. JOHN PETE FOLLOWED BY GLENN BUTTON. 
          ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. WHILE IT IS TECHNICALLY LEGAL FOR YOU TO CHANGE THE CHARTER THROUGH AN ORDINANCE, I THINK GIVEN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE WAY OUR ELECTION PROCESS RUNS, THAT YOU SHOULD GO OUT TO THE RESIDENTS, THAT IT SHOULD BE PART OF SOMETHING, THAT THE RESIDENTS, NOT JUST YOU ASK A FEW PEOPLE, YOU PUT IT AS A AS A BALLOT INITIATIVE FOR TO CHANGE THE WAY OUR ELECTIONS RUN, BECAUSE YOU'RE CHANGING AGAIN, GO SEE TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND SAY, IS THIS SOMETHING THE RESIDENTS WANT? IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU RUN A 500 1C4 ORGANIZATION THAT'S FOR THIS. AND YOU GUYS JUST SEEM TO BE FOLLOWING ALONG WITH WHATEVER HE SUGGESTS. GO OUT AND TALK TO THE RESIDENTS. YOU HEARD TONIGHT FROM THE RESIDENTS. WE DON'T WANT THE MEETING TO CHANGE FROM MONDAY TO TUESDAY. YOU GUYS DON'T SEEM TO CARE. WE DON'T WANT OUR ELECTIONS, CAMPAIGN FINANCE CHANGE. OR MAYBE WE DO. GO TALK TO THE RESIDENTS. DON'T JUST THE THREE OF YOU SIT UP HERE AND MAKE CHANGES. WHICH OF YOU RAN ON CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM? WHO HAVE YOU TOLD? YEAH, YOU DID EITHER OF YOU TELL THE RESIDENTS YOU WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM? NO, NO YOU'RE NOT. DID EITHER OF YOU TELL YOU THAT WE WERE GOING TO MOVE THE MEETING BECAUSE IT WAS INCONVENIENT TO HAVE MEETINGS ON MONDAYS? NO. 
          YOU GUYS NEED TO GO TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND START LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS, NOT JUST DOING WHAT MAYOR BURKE WANTS. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A WE DON'T HAVE A FULL COUNCIL. WE DON'T HAVE A FULL CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE AN INTERIM CITY MANAGER WHO'S DOING A GREAT JOB. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT TURNOVER IN STAFF, AND WE HAVEN'T ELECTED A FULL COUNCIL THROUGH ELECTION DISTRICTS. AND YET WE'RE GOING TO SIT HERE AND CHANGE OUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW AFTER CHANGING THE WAY, THE WAY WE RUN ELECTIONS AND MOVING US INTO DISTRICTS. NONE OF YOU HAVE TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS. I DON'T BELIEVE ONE FOR ONE SECOND YOU GUYS ARE OUT TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? THIS IS THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING. YOU DON'T LISTEN TO US WHEN WE SAY WE DON'T WANT THE MEETING. YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO US WHEN WE CAME TO SUPPORT THE CITY MANAGER IN THE SPECIAL SESSION. YOU'RE JUST NOT LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS. 
          YOU'RE JUST FOLLOWING ALONG WITH WHAT MAYOR BURKE WANTS DONE. I JUST. GLENN BUTTON, FOLLOWED BY BRITTANY COOK. ALONG A SIMILAR VEIN. OUR MAYOR, OUR MAYOR, ALLEGED THIS EVENING 
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THAT GREATER TRANSPARENCY IS NEEDED FROM PACS MAKING INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES. BUT AS MULTIPLE SPEAKERS HAVE SAID BEFORE, THERE'S BEEN NO TRANSPARENCY ON THE DONORS TO OR THE SUPPORT GIVEN BY HIS OWN NONPROFIT POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE, HIS NONPROFIT. SO MAYBE SOME BALANCE OF TRANSPARENCY WOULD BE GOOD. AND WHY HAS EACH ONE OF OUR FOUR SITTING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ACCEPTED DIRECT CAMPAIGN DONATIONS IN EXCESS OF THE PROPOSED LIMITS? ARE YOU GUYS BEHOLDEN TO ANY OF THOSE DONORS? ARE WE SOLVING A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST? I THINK THAT THIS REALLY NEEDS SOME MORE THOUGHT BEFORE WE JUST. WELL, EVEN IN THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, WHEN OUR COUNTRY WAS STARTED ALMOST 250 YEARS AGO, IT SAID WE SHOULD NOT THROW OFF THINGS THAT ARE FAMILIAR FOR LIGHT OR TRANSIENT CAUSES. AND I CHALLENGE YOU. LET'S KEEP CYPRUS. CYPRUS. SO GOVERNMENT COERCION AND TYRANNY WOULD TAKE MY TAX DOLLARS TO SUPPORT CANDIDATES I OPPOSE. NO, ZERO IS THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE NUMBER FOR SUPPORTING CANDIDATES FROM TAX DOLLARS. SO THESE TWO ISSUES, CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM AND MOVING THE MEETING. ARE APPARENTLY FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN THIS EVENING, DISREGARDING RESIDENT INPUT. AND THAT CONCERNS ME GREATLY. SO THERE'S AND MY LAST POINT IS THERE'S A VITAL LEGAL SEPARATION BETWEEN DIRECT CAMPAIGN DONATIONS AND INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES AND ANY BLURRING BETWEEN THOSE IS AT LEAST MISLEADING, IF NOT DISHONEST. DON'T DO IT. BE TRANSPARENT. BE HONEST. HAVE INTEGRITY. EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT. DON'T MAKE UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS. BRITTANY COOK, FOLLOWED BY ANNE MALLORY. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. YOU GUYS KNOW I LIKE TO HANG OUT IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM LIKE I HAVE FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS. SOMETIMES I HAVE AN OPINION, SOMETIMES I DON'T. TODAY I DO, SO I WILL BLESS YOU WITH THAT OPINION. I ACTUALLY, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I MENTION THE AGENDA ITEMS, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO CHIEF LOUDERBACK AND TO OUR ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE FANTASTIC. ANY TIME I HAVE EVER NEEDED SOMETHING, OUR OFFICERS AND OUR STAFF AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS JUST SO AMAZING TO DEAL WITH. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT KUDOS. ABSOLUTELY LOVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR OFFICERS AND EVERYBODY THAT WORKS WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. ANYWAYS, I DO SUPPORT AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU SUPPORTED LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT ON HOLDER. FANTASTIC. I. SUPPORT CANDY CORN. FOR THE OPEN POSITION. I THINK SHE IS PROBABLY ONE OF VERY FEW CANDIDATES THAT I THINK COULD POTENTIALLY EVEN GET ALL FOUR OF YOUR VOTES, AND I GET IN. 
          GETTING ALL FOUR OF YOU TO AGREE ON SOMETHING WOULD BE PRETTY FREAKING DIFFICULT. SO THAT'S WHO I SUPPORT FOR THAT. CHANGING THE DAY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE DUMBEST DECISIONS YOU'VE EVER MADE. PERSONALLY, THAT'S MY OPINION, OF COURSE. AND THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM, REFORM NUMBER ONE, COOL. REFORM. NUMBER TWO, I TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT. THREE I'M A LITTLE IFFY ON IT DOES SOUND LIKE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS. AND I DO SUPPORT EXTENDING THIS. AS SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, YOU'VE GOT AN INTERIM CITY MANAGER, YOU'VE GOT A NEW CITY CLERK, YOU'VE GOT AN OPEN CITY COUNCIL SEAT, YOU'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A NEW CITY ATTORNEY. THAT'S A LOT OF CHANGE GOING ON AT ONCE. SO AS MUCH AS I CAN SEE HOW IT'D BE LIKE, WHY ARE WE TAKING SO LONG TO TALK ABOUT THIS? I ALSO FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES, MAYBE YOU DO NEED TO PUMP THE BRAKES AND LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. SO I DO SUPPORT ONE AND TWO, I THINK. I DON'T KNOW IF I SUPPORT NUMBER THREE, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE YOUR TIME ON THAT ONE. I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE ALL 
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OF THESE OPEN SPOTS AND ALL THIS STUFF KIND OF GET FIGURED OUT BEFORE WE START MAKING MORE DECISIONS LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALL. HAVE A NICE NIGHT. AND MALLORY. GOOD EVENING. THESE COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF CYPRUS RESIDENTS, IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO START PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. TONIGHT. I WAS SHOCKED AND DISMAYED TO SEE THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL MAJORITY VOTED TO REDUCE THE OPPORTUNITY AND ABILITY OF A SITTING COUNCIL MEMBER TO PARTICIPATE IN COUNCIL MEETINGS BY MOVING THE DATE. COUNCIL MEMBER BONNIE PEET CLEARLY STATED THAT IF THE DATES WERE MOVED FROM MONDAY TO TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY, THAT SHE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE REGULARLY, AND DESPITE HER CLEAR DIRECTION AND REQUEST OF HER COLLEAGUES, THEY VOTED TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE MEETING, WHICH WILL RESULT IN COUNCIL MEMBER BONNIE PEET BEING LESS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. 
          THIS DECISION WAS ALSO MADE WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT OUR SITTING CITY ATTORNEY, FRED GALANTE, WOULD ALSO NO LONGER BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. NUMEROUS COUNCIL. NUMEROUS RESIDENTS WERE HERE AT THE MEETING AND SPOKE AGAINST THIS CHANGE. AND ALTHOUGH I LISTENED VERY CAREFULLY TO THE REASONS FOR THE CHANGE, I FIND NO MERIT IN THE REASONS BEHIND THE PROPOSAL. OBSERVING WHAT HAPPENED TONIGHT, I THINK, WAS A MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE AND ABUSE OF POWER AND RESIDENTS. THIS WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL AS AN ORDINANCE IN WHICH THEY NEED TO VOTE. I URGE YOU TO ATTEND THE NEXT MEETING AND LET YOUR OPINION BE HEARD, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS REPRESENT YOU AND THEY NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARILYN REAMS. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. 
          MARILYN REAMS, CYPRUS RESIDENT I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER FELT MORE STRONGLY ABOUT AN ISSUE. I MEAN, I FELT PRETTY STRONGLY ABOUT STUFF OVER THESE YEARS, BUT DANG IT, YOU GUYS ARE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE. THIS IS WRONG ON SO MANY LEVELS. AND LET ME TELL YOU, MY GUT, WHAT MY GUT FEELS. IT FEELS LIKE BAIT AND SWITCH. THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE. NO, NO ONE SITTING ON THIS DAIS. NO ONE AND ALL I LIKE. I ADORE ALL OF YOU, BUT YOU HAVE IT IS. IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE TO ME THAT YOU WOULD NOT LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS WHO SHOW UP HERE FAITHFULLY, THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY ARE DISCOUNTING OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WHO'S CLEARLY STATED HE CANNOT ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS, THAT HE HAS ANOTHER COMMITMENT ON TUESDAYS. IT'S SHOCKING TO ME. I, I MEAN, I IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BE SHOCKED, BUT I'M SHOCKED. AND I AM URGING YOU TO GO HOME TONIGHT AND TO REFLECT ON WHAT YOU'VE SAID TONIGHT AND THE DECISION THAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT, BECAUSE IT IS WRONG ON SO MANY LEVELS. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO CHANGE THE COUNCIL MEETING, AND CERTAINLY NOT SO THAT THERE CAN BE MORE VACATION TIME, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. MOST OF THE WORLD WORKS. YOU KNOW, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, I'M RETIRED, I GET IT. I AM IN THAT OTHER STAGE OF LIFE. I'M OLD. I GET THAT. BUT I SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE WORKING. MY MY BOSSES WOULD HAVE FIRED ME IN 30S IF I WOULD HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE COMING IN TODAY BECAUSE THIS JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT. IT IS WRONG. THIS IS WRONG. IT'S A WRONG DECISION. 
          AND I AM BEGGING YOU, PLEADING WITH YOU AGAIN TO PLEASE RECONSIDER IT. THE REASONS ARE NOT VALID AND THE ANSWERS HAVE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN TO YOU ABOUT MAKING THE AGENDA AVAILABLE TO 
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YOU EARLIER. THAT WAS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN. IT'S BEEN RESOLVED SO THERE IS NO ISSUE. 
          EXTRA VACATION IS NOT IS NOT A VALID REASON. IT'S NOT. SO ANYWAY, I HOLY COW. NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ANTACIDS. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS FOR 
          [ COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS FROM CITY-AFFILIATED BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND REMARKS]
IN-PERSON COMMUNICATIONS. THAT BRINGS US TO COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS FROM CITY AFFILIATED BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND REMARKS. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, WOULD YOU PLEASE START US OFF OKAY? ON TUESDAY THE 28TH, I WENT TO THE REGIONAL MILITARY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. AND JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THERE. ONE IS WITH THE MILITARY SHUT DOWN. IT WAS IT WAS A BIT OF A DIFFERENT MEETING BECAUSE THEY HAD A HARD TIME ACTUALLY RUNNING THE MEETING. BUT ONE THING THAT THEY DID SAY IS THEY COULD REALLY USE SOME HELP WITH MILITARY FAMILIES OVER THE HOLIDAYS. SO I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME POSTS ON FACEBOOK, BUT THEY COULD REALLY USE SOME ADOPTIVE FAMILY FOR SOME OF THE MILITARY FAMILIES. ON THE 29TH, I WENT TO THE CHAMBER MENTOR BREAKFAST AND KIND OF PUT ON MY BUSINESS HAT AGAIN AND ENGINEERING HAT, AND HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION WITH THREE STUDENTS. ON THE 31ST. WE WENT TO MITSUWA, THE PRE-OPENING THAT WAS OUTSTANDING AND CONTINUES TO BE VERY WELL ATTENDED. I UNDERSTAND ON THE THIRD WE HAD OUR INTERVIEWS OF THE CITY CLERK. CONGRATULATIONS LISA FOR BEING SUCCESSFUL. ON NOVEMBER 5TH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE WENT ON A TOUR TO QUTECH. IT IS AN AEROSPACE COMPANY, AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE. I'LL CALL IT OVER. THEY'RE EXPANDING. IT'S OVER OFF OF HOPE AND CHIP. AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPANDING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. AND IT WAS AWESOME BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING UP A WHOLE NEW BUILDING. SO IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR KIND OF THEIR STORY. AND THEY'VE GOT SOME GREAT THINGS GOING ON THERE. ON THE FIFTH, I HAD THE IT'S A WEDNESDAY, I HAD THE OC SANITATION OPERATIONS MEETING ON THE SEVENTH, ON SEVENTH ON THE WHATEVER DAY WAS SIXTH, THE WOMEN'S CONFERENCE. AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO KRISTEN JACKSON FOR BEING ANNOUNCED THE WOMAN OF THE YEAR ON FRIDAY. LAST WEEK, ARNOLD ELEMENTARY DID A VETERANS DAY ASSEMBLY. I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS, BUT IT'S AN HONOR, OKAY, TO NOT JUST HONOR THE VETERANS, BUT TO SEE THE KIDS. AND I'LL CALL IT TC SINGING SONGS FOR THE VETERANS. AND THERE WAS PROBABLY 15 OR SO. THERE WAS OUTSTANDING EVENT. THEY DO IT EVERY YEAR. NEXT I, WE DID THE BOY SCOUT TROOP ON SUNDAY, THE PLANTING OF THE FLAGS AT FOREST LAWN. I THINK THEY HAD 200 SCOUTS, I WOULD SAY OF ALL AGES. AND MAYOR, MAYOR BERTRAND MEDRANO DID A NICE JOB OF KIND OF KICKING IT OFF. AND AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE ALL THE KIDS EXCITED ABOUT GOING OUT AND REALLY HONORING THE VETERANS. LET'S SEE. OH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT DONATIONS TO DIFFERENT PLACES. AND I'M PLEASED THAT THE THE WOMEN'S CLUB OF CYPRESS DONATED 1,000 POUNDS OF FOOD AND CANS AND EVERYTHING TO WE CARE, AND I FELT REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT. AND THAT'S IT. AND I WILL SAY I'M I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THIS MEETING AND HONESTLY DISAPPOINTED MY COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS AND THEY MADE A DECISION. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, NO UPDATES. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO. 
          I ALSO ATTENDED THE STUDENT MENTORING BREAKFAST AND I WANT TO SAY THAT IT WAS WELL ATTENDED, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED ALL THE EFFORT THAT EVERYONE PUT INTO IT. I ALSO ATTENDED THE GRAND OPENING OF MITSUWA AND VISITED THE CORPORATION AS PART OF THE PART OF THE GROUP FOR COORDINATION WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE HERE THROUGH CYPRUS. AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT I SAW AT THE CORPORATION. THEIR EXPANSION, THEIR BUSINESS MODEL, HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE CEO, CFO, FOUNDERS, AND IT BELIEVE IT OR NOT, YOU DRIVE BY THESE BUILDINGS AND YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THE THERMAL VACS THAT ARE GOING ON THE THE TESTING THAT THEY'RE DOING TO SIMULATE ON LOW EARTH ORBITS FOR THESE SATELLITES. 
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AND YOU REALIZE WHEN YOU TAKE A STEP BACK THAT WE HERE AT CYPRUS ARE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SPECIAL WITH RESPECT TO SPACE TECHNOLOGY. AND WE DRIVE BY THESE BUILDINGS. 
          WE DROVE BY ANOTHER ONE, MY SON INTERNSHIP AT ANOTHER ONE. SO I GOT TO SEE THE INSIDE OF THAT. 
          AND YOU REALIZE THAT WE'RE ATTRACTING AND MAKING THE TYPE OF CITY THAT'S REALLY A CITY OF THE FUTURE. AND WHEN THE CEO TOOK US ASIDE AND TOLD US, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE YOU'RE BUILDING A SPACE ALLEY HERE IN MANY WAYS, YOU'RE BUILDING A SPECIAL PLACE THAT EXISTS ONLY A FEW PLACES IN THE WORLD. AND ONCE YOU WALK THROUGH THERE AND SEE THEIR PLANS FOR EXPANSION AND THE PROGRAMS THEY'RE ON AND SEE WHICH BIRDS FROM SATELLITES THEY'RE ON, YOU BEGIN TO REALIZE, WOW, WE ARE WE DO HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL HERE AT CYPRUS. AND I JUST WANTED TO REFLECT ON THAT. I ATTENDED THE WOMEN'S CONFERENCE AND I WANTED TO SAY ONCE AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER KRISTEN JACKSON FOR WOMAN OF THE YEAR AND ALSO THE SPEAKER, THE LADY FROM PORTO. AND ON THE SEVENTH, I ALSO ATTENDED THE VETERANS DAY ASSEMBLY AT ARNOLD ELEMENTARY, AND IT WAS NICE TO SEE THE ELEMENTARY STUDENTS, EVEN THE TC, SINGING AND PRAISING THE THE VETERANS FOR ANY FORMER MARINES AND MARINES. I JUST WANT TO WISH YOU A HAPPY 150TH BIRTHDAY. ALL THE MARINES KNOW RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE PROBABLY OUTSTANDING UP AT SOME BARS SINGING, YOU KNOW, MAKING FUN OF SAILORS. ALSO WANT TO WISH A HAPPY VETERANS DAY TO ALL THE VETERANS TOMORROW. AND THIS IS REALLY RANDOM. SO I'LL JUST SAY IT. I WAS READING IN ONE OF THE EMAILS I RECEIVED THAT IN ORDER TO DO THE FIVE K RUN AND ALL THE STUFF THAT WE DID, PEOPLE HAD TO BE OUT THERE AT 2 A.M. 3 A.M. IN THE MORNING TO GET IT SET UP. AND, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WE JUST GO THERE, SMILE, TAKE PICTURES, TAKE ALL THE CREDIT, SAY SOME FEW THINGS, HOLD THE THING AT THE END AND BOOM. AND YOU NEVER REALIZE WHAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE ALL THESE THINGS HAPPEN. SO I WANT TO THANK I WANT TO GO NAME BY NAME, BUT I WAS TOLD, HEY, YOU DON'T DO THAT, OKAY? THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. SO THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM ARRIVED AT 2 A.M. 11 PEOPLE SHOWED UP TO PREPARE FOR STREET CLOSURES. AND THEN AT 3 A.M. 17 RECREATION TEAM MEMBERS SHOWED UP TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE STUFF YOU DO AT NIGHT TO MAKE THINGS WORK, AND THE CITY, THAT IS ALL. ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR NEW CITY CLERK, LISA BERGLUND. I ALSO ENJOYED ATTENDING THE CHAMBER SPONSORED MENTOR BREAKFAST IS JUST IT'S SUCH A TREAT TO INTERACT WITH THE YOUNG ASPIRING ATTORNEYS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN GOVERNMENT. AND SO THANK YOU TO ALL THE ORGANIZERS OF THE EVENT. AND JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN POLITICS OR LAW OR GOVERNMENT IS WATCHING THIS MEETING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A CHAMBER BREAKFAST. YOU'RE FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME PERSONALLY ANYTIME, AND I'M HAPPY TO GRAB COFFEE WITH YOU. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL FUTURE PATHS. I ALSO ATTENDED THE MITSUWA MARKETPLACE GRAND OPENING. IT'S JUST REALLY EXCITING TO HAVE A NEW BUSINESS LIKE THAT HERE IN CYPRUS. THANK YOU TO OUR PLANNING TEAM FOR THE LONG ROAD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IN PARTICULAR, I WAS DRAWN TO THE DIVERSE COLLECTION OF MUSHROOMS, FRESH MUSHROOMS THAT THEY SELL THERE. THEY HAD LIKE HALF A DOZEN VARIETIES THAT AREN'T IN THE NORMAL GROCERY STORE, AND THOSE ARE LIKE THE SUPER HEALTHY ONES. SO NEXT TIME YOU'RE THERE, TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. AND THEN AS A REMINDER, THERE'S AN INTERFAITH EVENT COMING UP ON THE NOVEMBER 18TH AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER GARDEN ROOM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SPEAKERS FROM THE CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, JEWISH, JAIN, MUSLIM, AND SIKH COMMUNITY THERE, AS WELL AS SOME MUSICAL PERFORMANCES. AND SO I'LL BE THERE AND I HOPE YOU CAN CAN JOIN US THAT EVENING. THAT'S ALL FROM ME. AND THAT BRINGS US 
          [ COUNCIL MEMBER ITEMS FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION]
TO COUNCIL MEMBER ITEMS FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION. DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ITEMS? COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, THANK YOU. I WANT TO ADD AN AGENDA ITEM THAT WOULD DIRECT THE RECREATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO REMAND THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF STANDARDS FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND SHADE STRUCTURES TO THE RECREATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION. SO REMAND MEANS THAT WE PASS DOWN A DECISION TO, IN SOME CASES, A COMMITTEE OR A COMMISSION. AND SO THIS IN THIS CASE, WE'D BE PASSING ON THAT DECISION TO THE ARCS COMMISSION. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR CLARIFICATION. DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A, I GUESS, A DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT THE EXACT 
          [03:05:05]
DIRECTION WE WANT TO GIVE TO THE RECREATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION, OR DID YOU WANT TO. YEAH. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT OR DID YOU WANT SOMETHING ELSE? I'M COMFORTABLE LETTING THEM TAKE THE INITIATIVE IN THIS AND KIND OF COMING UP WITH THEIR OWN SET OF STANDARDS. 
          OKAY. SO THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE THE AGENDA ITEM WOULD BE TO CONSIDER DIRECTING THE COMMISSION TO COME UP WITH STANDARDS REGARDING WHAT WAS IT, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND SHADE STRUCTURES. OKAY, SO I'M MR. CITY MANAGER. I'D BE HAPPY TO TO WORK WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TO PUT SOME MEAT ON THE BONES THERE TO RETURN TO YOU. IF THERE'S A SECOND TO PLACE THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING, AS SOON AS THE NEXT MEETING, SO THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE US SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO THE COMMISSION TO DEVELOP OR ESTABLISH STANDARDS. 
          AND I'LL WORK WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND STAFF WILL WORK COLLEGIALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THE REQUISITE SPECIFICITY TO BEST ENSURE THE SUCCESS OF THE COMMISSION IN ITS EFFORT. SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY DECIDE WITH THREE VOTES TO PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PETE. YEAH, I THINK THIS SOUNDS LIKE A STRATEGIC ITEM, SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANT TO PUT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS IN JANUARY AS PART OF THE STRATEGIC PROCESS, BECAUSE THAT WAY, JEFF AND HIS TEAM CAN LAY OUT KIND OF THE PLAN OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, HOW THEY WANT TO PASS THAT ON, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT SEEMS KIND OF A STRATEGIC ITEM THAT MIGHT BE MORE FRUITFUL FOR THEM TO GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT AND KIND OF PUT SOME THINGS TOGETHER. BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG. SO I DON'T KNOW. MR. DRAPER, IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, BUT OKAY. JUST READING YOUR FACE. YEAH, I KNOW, SO I GUESS COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG OR MR. CITY MANAGER, I'M GOING TO LET YOU JUMP IN AS IT'S BEEN PROPOSED AS AN AGENDA ITEM, IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED IT'S BETTER SUITED FOR A STRATEGIC PLANNING ITEM. PERHAPS IT COULD BE BOTH. WHAT? DO YOU HAVE A THOUGHT? HISTORICALLY, SUCH AN INITIATIVE WOULD OCCUR WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE STRATEGIC BUSINESS PLAN AND PLANNING PROCESS. IF, HOWEVER, THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THERE'S A SECOND WOULD WISH TO GRAB DIBS ON THAT CAPACITY AND GET AN EARLIER START, YOU CAN DO SO. IT IT IT'S A DEPARTURE WE WOULD THEN. BUT IF YOU DID IT THIS WAY WE WOULD REMIND YOU COME THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION THAT THERE'S DIBS ON THAT. AND THAT'S GOING TO GO AT THE TOP OF THAT, NOT AT THE TOP, BUT NEAR THE TOP OF THOSE NEW INITIATIVES. SO ULTIMATELY YOU'RE GETTING A HEAD START. 
          BUT YOU'RE YOU WOULD, I THINK, FIND YOURSELF IN THIS IN THE SAME PLACE AS FOR THE ULTIMATE WORKLOAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND SO, COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT NECESSARILY MATTERS WHETHER WE GO THROUGH AN AGENDA ITEM OR THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU TO EXPRESS A PREFERENCE AND KEEP YOUR MOTION OR WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION. I THOUGHT I WAS A LOT MORE NUANCED THAN THAT, BUT THANK YOU. I'VE SEEN QUITE A FEW EXAMPLES ONLINE. I FROM WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE PRODUCED AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING A BIG PROJECT. YOU KNOW, I, I SEE THIS AS, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKING A FEW SESSIONS, MAYBE JUST ONE, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY GOOD EXAMPLES ONLINE. YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GRAB AND TAKE WHATEVER YOU LIKE. SO I, I DON'T KNOW, IS IT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BIG ENOUGH FOR A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM, BUT MAYBE THAT'S THAT'S OKAY. I THINK I'LL LET I'LL LET THE CITY ATTORNEY GUIDE US FOR AS TO THE BROWN ACT. BUT IT IT WE WOULD JUST NEED HELP WITH SCOPE. AND I CAN WORK WITH YOU WHETHER IT'S BEFORE A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING OR BEFORE THE STRATEGIC BUSINESS PLAN TO DEVELOP OR OR BETTER PARDON ME, TO ARTICULATE WITH GREATER SPECIFICITY AS TO THE SCOPE OF THE ASSIGNMENT REMANDED TO THE COMMISSION. 
          OKAY, THEN. OH. OH, THE IF I MAY JUST CLARIFY THE FROM A BROWN ACT. WELL, LET ME START WITH THE IDEAL PROCESS WOULD BE FOR THE COUNCIL TO ALL UNDERSTAND AND SO THAT YOU CAN GET A SECOND ON THIS REQUEST, WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE REQUEST IS, AND THEN THE PUBLIC 
          [03:10:02]
UNDERSTANDS IT AS WELL. HOWEVER, IF THE COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE ALLOWING THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL MEMBER TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS TO FURTHER REFINE IT WITHIN THE BROAD SCOPE OF WHAT TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY APPROVE HERE, THAT IS FINE AS WELL, SO LONG AS THE DISCUSSION IS ONLY BETWEEN LESS THAN A QUORUM. I JUST AS I HEARD IT, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE SCOPE WOULD BE. SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE STANDARDS FOR PLAY EQUIPMENT SAFETY THAT ALREADY APPLY. SO. 
          IF YOU COULD, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE MORE, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD HELP YOUR COLLEAGUES AND THE PUBLIC. BUT OTHERWISE, HAVING THE DIALOG WITH THE CITY MANAGER IS FINE. 
          IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH IT. AND BEFORE YOU JUMP IN. THANK YOU, MR. CITY ATTORNEY. AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THE THE QUESTION IS, ARE SHOULD COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG JUST WORK ON THIS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, OR SHOULD WE AS A COUNCIL DEFINE THE SCOPE AND THEN IT THAT'S EXACTLY THE QUESTION. OKAY. SORRY. GO AHEAD. YEAH. THERE SEEMS TO BE QUITE A BIT OF AMBIGUITY IN THIS AND WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. AND SO IN THAT SENSE I, I'M FINE WAITING FOR THE GOING THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLAN PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME REFINING, REFINING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO I'M HEARING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS ADDED AS A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM. YES. OKAY. OKAY. AND SO DOES HE NEED TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION OR IT DIES? THERE WASN'T A SECOND OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IN THE MEANTIME, I'LL, I'LL I'LL WORK WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TO WORK WORK THROUGH HIS INTENTIONS AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK THROUGH. THE COUNCIL DID THE SPECIFIC THE STRATEGIC PLAN RATHER PROCESS. SOUNDS GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO CITY MANAGER REMARKS. I'VE HAD ENOUGH THANK YOU REMARKS NOT MEETING REMARKS. TO BE CLEAR, IT CAN BE BOTH. CITY ATTORNEY REMARKS. NO REMARKS. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING TO BE HELD ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 8TH, 2025, BEGINNING AT 5:30 P.M. IN THE EXECUTIVE BOARDROOM. MEETING ADJOURNED. FOR CLARIFICATION. THE ADJOURNMENT IS ACTUALLY TO THE SPECIAL MEETING. I MEAN, YOU'RE ADJOURNING THIS MEETING AND SEPARATELY NOTICING THE SPECIAL MEETING, BUT JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC OF NOVEMBER 19TH TO CONDUCT THE INTERVIEWS THAT WERE THE SUBJECT OF AN EARLIER ITEM THIS EVENING. THANK
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