Jul 14, 2025 City Council Regular

[1. CALL TO ORDER 6:00 P.M. Council Chambers]

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OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND HELLO AGAIN TO MANY OF YOU. SORRY WE GOT A BIT OF A LATE START, BUT SOME THINGS JUST TAKE AS LONG AS THEY TAKE. SO, MADAM CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING? YES, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE HERE. MAYOR. PRO TEM MEDRANO, PRESENT. MAYOR BURKE HERE. OKAY.

[ PRESENTATIONS Recognition of Outgoing Commissioners and Oath of Office for Incoming Commissioners Orange County Mosquito and Vector Control District Presentation]

SO. OKAY, LET'S. DO THREE. SO THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO THANK EACH OF YOU AGAIN SO MUCH. I KNOW COMMISSIONER LOGAN AND RIDGEWAY. YOU REALLY BASED ON THE SPREADSHEETS I SAW, PUT YOUR HEART AND SOUL INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING OUR PARKS AND PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. AND AS YOU SAID IN YOUR REMARKS. RIGHT. YOU BEING A VOICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND BEING SOMEONE THAT THEY COULD TURN TO IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT PARKS. YOU'RE OUR EYES AND EARS, AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT. COMMISSIONER HINES, YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN REMARKABLE, AND I'M GOING TO BE DISCUSSING AN AGENDA ITEM, OR THE COUNCIL WILL BE DISCUSSING AN AGENDA ITEM LATER TONIGHT ABOUT GETTING VOLUNTEERS MORE INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY. GUESS WHO THAT CAME FROM? SO. OH, OKAY. AND SO EVEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMMISSION MEETING, I KNOW ALL THREE OF YOU HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO TO SERVE AND PUTTING YOUR YOUR DECENCY AND YOUR PASSION INTO ACTION. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANKS. OH, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN BACK TO OUR SEATS. ALL RIGHT. NOW I'M GOING TO INVITE OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS TO COME FORWARD FOR THE OATH OF OFFICE.

AND THOSE ARE BOB BASTIAN, MARILYN REAMS, LINDA CROCE, GLENN BUTTON, AND QUENTIN BENTLEY. SO PLEASE JOIN US IN THE WELL FOR A PHOTO. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO SWEAR THEM. OH, OH, AFTER THE SWEARING IN. SO LET'S GET THE SERIOUS BUSINESS OUT OF THE WAY.

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CONGRATULATIONS. AND NOW LET'S HAVE A PHONE. ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO A.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR, YOU KNOW I. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT THREE COMMISSIONERS FOR WHOM THIS IS NOT THEIR FIRST OATH, MR. BASTIAN, LINDA CROCE AND GLENN BUTTON. WELCOME BACK. AND TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS, QUENTIN BENTLEY AND MARILYN REAMS. LET'S GO EASY ON THEM, OKAY? NO HAZING LIKE I'VE HEARD ABOUT WITH SOME OF THE. NO. BUT WELCOME. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU STEPPING UP TO SERVE OUR CITY AND CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT WAYS. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO BRING US IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THAT WAS. GREAT. SO. NEXT UP WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM ORANGE COUNTY MOSQUITO AND VECTOR CONTROL. I'D LIKE TO INVITE BRIAN BANNON FORWARD. THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WELCOME, MR. BRANNON. AND WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU. MAYOR BURKE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AS A TRUSTEE FOR THE ORANGE COUNTY MOSQUITO AND VECTOR CONTROL DISTRICT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, FOR BEING A TRUSTEE EMERITUS. AND THANK YOU TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HAVING ME HERE. I'M GOING TO TRY AND GO QUICK ON THIS. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. ALRIGHT, SO. AS I FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THIS, I POINTED AT.

THERE. OH HOLD ON, WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS RIGHT. OKAY, SO OUR MISSION IS TO EDUCATE AND PROTECT THE GOOD PEOPLE OF ORANGE COUNTY FROM VECTORS AND VECTOR BORNE DISEASES IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE MANNER. EVERY WORD OF THAT IS TRUE. EDUCATE BEING THE FIRST WORD BECAUSE WE NEED YOUR HELP. WE NEED YOUR HELP IN JUST LOOKING FOR STANDING WATER, KEEPING THE VECTORS AWAY AND IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE MANNER IS ALSO THE BEST WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THESE VECTORS, WHETHER THEY BE MOSQUITOES, RED IMPORTED FIRE ANTS WHICH THEY DON'T SPREAD DISEASE. BUT IF YOU GET BITTEN, YOU'LL FEEL LIKE IT. RATS. TICKS, FLEAS, AND BLACK

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SO IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU SEE A YELLOW TRUCK PARKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, PLEASE DON'T RUN INTO IT. DON'T REAR END THEM. LET THEM JUST PUT THEIR LITTLE SPRAY NOZZLE DOWN THERE AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. WE ALSO HAVE RIGHT HANDED JEEPS THAT WE USE TO SPRAY GUTTERS TO GET BACKED UP. AND AGAIN, PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE WATER CAN SIT. MOSQUITOES CAN BREED. SO THERE'S OUR YELLOW TRUCK RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN SEE A SWIMMING POOL THAT'S UNMAINTAINED. MOSQUITOES WE'RE SEEING TODAY. THEY CAN BREED IN AS LITTLE WATER AS A BOTTLE CAP.

SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT A POOL THAT'S UNMAINTAINED, HOW MANY MOSQUITOES CAN BREED THERE? LAST YEAR WE WANTED TO SEE HOW MANY MOSQUITO LARVAE WAS BREEDING IN AN UNMAINTAINED SWIMMING POOL.

WE GOT UP TO 300,000 AND WE STOPPED COUNTING. THE MOSQUITO THAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING IS THE CULEX QUINQUEFASCIATUS. I'VE BEEN WORKING HERE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. I CAN FINALLY PRONOUNCE IT. THESE ARE THE MOSQUITOES THAT COME OUT IN THE AT DAWN AND DUSK THAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING. THEY CAN SPREAD WEST NILE VIRUS. INTERESTING THING ABOUT WEST NILE VIRUS IS I JUST LOOKED AT A MAP FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH, AND ON THAT MAP IS LOS ANGELES COUNTY TO OUR NORTH. THEY'VE HAD HUMAN CASES OF WEST NILE VIRUS, SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY, RIVERSIDE AND SAN DIEGO ALL HAVE HAD WEST NILE VIRUS. THERE'S JUST A LITTLE SPOT OF WHITE THAT HASN'T HAD IT. IT'S CALLED ORANGE COUNTY AND WE HOPE IT STAYS THAT WAY AGAIN. WE NEED YOUR HELP. WEST NILE VIRUS IS A DEADLY DISEASE. SAINT LOUIS ENCEPHALITIS IS WHEN YOUR BRAIN SWELLS. THAT'S NEVER A GOOD DAY. AND ZIKA IS PRETTY BAD TOO. SO HELP US OUT ON THAT. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHO'S HEARD OF THE 80S AEGYPTI MOSQUITO? CAN I SEE A SHOW OF HANDS? 123456. WHO'S HEARD OF THE ANKLE BITER? THEY'RE THE SAME. OUR LAB WANTS ME TO SAY AEDES AEGYPTI. I'M.

I'M SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC, MAN. LET ME LET ME JUST SAY A WORD THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND. SO THE ANKLE BITER IS A FAIRLY NEW MOSQUITO. THEY'RE TERRIBLE. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT CAN BREED IN JUST A BOTTLE CAP. THEY CAN LAY THEIR EGGS ABOVE THE WATER LINE IN ANY KIND OF CONTAINER. THOSE EGGS CAN REMAIN VIABLE FOR EIGHT MONTHS TO TWO YEARS, WAITING FOR THAT WATER LEVEL TO RISE UP. AND THEY'LL COME BACK. THEY CAN TRANSMIT DENGUE, YELLOW FEVER, CHIKUNGUNYA AND ZIKA. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT DENGUE RIGHT NOW. DENGUE IN ORANGE COUNTY HAS ONLY BEEN A TRAVEL RELATED DISEASE WHERE SOMEONE WENT SOMEWHERE WHERE DENGUE IS PREVALENT. THE CARIBBEAN, CENTRAL AMERICA, SOUTH AMERICA GOT BIT, CAME HOME, DIDN'T FEEL WELL. YOU HAVE DENGUE. SO WHEN WE FIND OUT ABOUT THAT, WE'LL GO TO THEIR HOME AND IF WE HAVE THEIR PERMISSION, WE WILL INSPECT AND SPRAY IF NEEDED TO PREVENT A MOSQUITO FROM BITING THAT PERSON AND THEN BITING ANOTHER PERSON. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE LOCAL TRANSMISSION THAT CAN GO BAD REALLY QUICK. WHAT I MEAN BY BAD IS WE CAN HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE GETTING THAT DISEASE. SO WE'VE BEEN LUCKY ON THAT AND WE HOPE TO KEEP LUCKY IF EVERYONE HELPS US OUT. OKAY, SO AEDES AEGYPTI, LIKE I SAID, THEY JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT OF WATER. YOU SEE, IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER THAT'S A BROMELIAD. THAT MUCH WATER. IF YOU HAVE A LEAK UNDER YOUR SINK IN YOUR BATHROOM, THEY CAN BREED IN THAT. THESE THESE GUYS CAN BREED IN YOUR HOUSE.

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THEY'RE NOT GOOD BITERS, THOUGH. AND THAT'S WHY YOU'LL GET BIT MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE THEIR THEIR, THEIR STICKER DOESN'T STICK REALLY GOOD. SO THEY'LL BITE YOU UNTIL THEY GET THE BLOOD. SO YOU CAN GET BIT LIKE 5 OR 6 TIMES BY THE MOSQUITO. SO SOME PEOPLE HAVE ROOTED PLANTS, SOME PEOPLE HAVE LUCKY BAMBOO. AND THAT BAMBOO CAN BE LUCKY FOR THE 80S AEGYPTI IF YOU DON'T DUMP IT OUT EVERY WEEK AND RINSE THAT OUT. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GETTING WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. I WON'T BELABOR THAT POINT. WE HAVE A DRONE PROGRAM THAT WE USE IN WETLANDS, AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD, LOW IMPACT WAY TO COVER A LOT OF GROUND. WE DO THAT IN HUNTINGTON BEACH WETLANDS. WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN A LOT OF MOSQUITOES IN THE UC IRVINE MARSH LATELY. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. IT'S A GREAT, GREAT LITTLE PROGRAM. IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE. WE ARE LOOKING AT A NEW WAY TO TAME MOSQUITOES. BY TAME, I MEAN OBLITERATE THEM. AND THAT'S WITH THE WE CALL THEM THE ANKLE BITER FIGHTERS. WE SEPARATE THE MALES FROM THE FEMALES. CAN I SEE A SHOW OF HANDS? WHO THINKS THE MALES BITE? WHO THINKS THE FEMALES BITE? YOU ARE CORRECT, MA'AM.

YES. THE MALES JUST SIT AROUND AND DRINK NECTAR. THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE SEPARATE THE MALES FROM THE FEMALES. THE MALES ARE A LITTLE SMALLER. WE TAKE THEM TO THE MOSQUITO TSA PUT THEM THROUGH THE X RAY MACHINE, CRANK IT UP A LITTLE BIT, AND THAT STERILIZES THE LITTLE BUGGERS. AND THEN WE RELEASE A BUNCH OF THEM OUT THERE TO OUTCOMPETE WITH THE FEMALES AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MOSQUITOES THAT ARE BREEDING. SO THAT'S A BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL TECHNIQUE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW IN MISSION VIEJO. FINGERS CROSSED THAT'LL WORK. WELL. SO WHAT CAN YOU DO? JUST DUMP THE STANDING WATER PEOPLE? OTHER THING YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN CALL US. WE ARE A COUNTY AGENCY. YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR US WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS. THANK YOU. IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR PROPERTY TAX. WE WILL COME OUT AND WE WILL INSPECT YOUR HOME. HOW DO I KNOW? BECAUSE I CALLED US ON US. THEY DID A GREAT JOB FOR ME. THEY LOOKED AT MY HOUSE, ONE ON THE LEFT, ONE ON THE RIGHT, ACROSS THE STREET, IN THE FRONT, LEFT AND RIGHT AND BACK YARD. LEFT AND RIGHT. GUY ON THE LEFT AT A JUNKYARD IN HIS BACKYARD. AND IT WAS JUST TERRIBLE. AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THE MOSQUITOES WERE COMING FROM.

SO IT'S MY LUCK. WATER BARRELS. THEY'RE FINE TO, YOU KNOW, COLLECT WATER, BUT YOU COVER THEM WITH A NICE SCREEN ANYTIME. YOU CAN'T LIKE, SAY YOU HAVE A DRAIN OR SOMETHING THAT CAN COLLECT WATER. YOU JUST PUT A FINE MESH SCREEN IN THERE AND THAT'LL STOP THE MOSQUITOES FROM GETTING IN. WE TALKED ABOUT MOSQUITO FISH, AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT THERE, THOSE ARE ALL MOSQUITO LARVAE. IF WE PUT THE MOSQUITO FISH IN THAT POOL, THEY WOULD JUST STAY THERE AND JUST BE HAPPY. AS CLAMS. THEY WOULD CONTINUE. NOW ONLY THING WE CAN'T DO IS PUT THEM SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY CAN GET INTO NATURAL WATER SYSTEM, BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY INVASIVE.

THEY'LL EAT EVERYTHING. SO WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. WINDOW SCREENS KEEP DOORS CLOSED, REPAIR HOLES IN YOUR SCREENS. THE 80S AEGYPTI. DID I SAY THEY'RE TERRIBLE? THEY'RE TERRIBLE. MOSQUITOES HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE DINOSAURS. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DINOSAURS. I THINK THE MOSQUITOES DID IT. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. IT'S NOT THE ORANGE COUNTY MOSQUITO AND VECTOR CONTROL DISTRICT, BUT THE 80S AEGYPTI. YOU CAN'T USE ANYTHING BUT DEET 30%, WHICH IS RECOMMENDED BY THE EPA AS AS OKAY, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO KEEP THEM AWAY. THE OTHER THING YOU CAN DO IS LONG SLEEVES, LOOSE FITTING CLOTHING AND NOTHING, NOTHING TIGHT LIGHT COLORS THAT THAT WILL HELP. JUST LIKE I SAID RIGHT THERE AND IN THIS CRAZY WORLD TODAY, WE THINK THAT THE ONE THING THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AGAINST ALL POLITICAL SPECTRUMS, WHAT BASEBALL TEAM YOU LIKE, WHERE YOU'RE FROM, WHATEVER IS.

LET'S JUST WORK TOGETHER TO GET MOSQUITOES. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO AGREE ON. AND THAT'S MY DOG BOOKER. AND WHEN I SAY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HE SAYS, DO YOU HAVE A BALL? AND THAT'S I SAY, YES, I DO. AND SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS I'M AVAILABLE OR YOU CAN CALL US AGAIN. THERE'S MY INFO, THERE'S OUR NUMBER. YOU CAN JUST SCAN THAT. YOU'LL GET RIGHT TO ME. WE'RE GLAD TO HELP. WE ALL WANT TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET RID OF MOSQUITOES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BRENNAN. I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR TIPS, BUT YOU INCLUDED ALL THE TIPS, I THINK, IN THE PRESENTATION. AND SO DO YOU HAVE ANY? MAYBE WE'VE ALREADY SHARED THEM. I THINK WE SHARE THE SLIDES AND TIPS ON OUR

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[ ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS (Three minutes per speaker. The City Council may adjust the time allotted per speaker.) The public may address the City Council on agenda items prior to any action taken. Although Council Members may provide brief responses, the City Council may not engage in a discussion with members of the public during the meeting. Please complete a Speaker's Card to address the City Council in-person. Please follow the instructions at the end of the agenda and wait for the Mayor/City Clerk to call on you to address the City Council virtually. Speakers providing in-person comments will be called first. Members of the public are encouraged to communicate with the City Council via email at citycouncil@cypressca.org or by calling 714-229-6699.]

SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED ON FIRST. TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING STRAIGHT, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AGENDA ITEMS AND A PUBLIC HEARING AND GENERAL COMMENTS, I'LL DO THE BEST I CAN. FIRST UP, JOHN PETE, FOLLOWED BY CHRIS PEREZ. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BURKE. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WOULD LIKE TO. I'M JOHN PETE. I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF ITEM FOUR ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. APPROVAL OF ITEM FOUR WILL ENABLE THE CITY COUNCIL TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS OF INCREASING CIP PROJECT EFFICIENCY. THIS PROCESS BEGAN WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A STRATEGIC PLAN OBJECTIVE TO STREAMLINE CIP PROJECTS, TO INCREASE EFFICIENCY AND CONTAIN COSTS. FOLLOWING THE APPROVAL OF THIS OBJECTIVE, CITY STAFF CREATED A WELL REASONED PILOT PROGRAM TO DELEGATE PROJECT APPROVAL FOR ROUTINE OR RECURRING PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CIP, AND WHICH REMAIN WITHIN BUDGET TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MAINTAIN ALL CURRENT PURCHASING AND BIDDING STANDARDS AND TO REPORT ALL ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED PROJECTS TO CITY COUNCIL QUARTERLY. AND YOU GUYS HAVE THE AUTHORITY. IF QUARTERLY IS NOT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH, YOU CAN DO IT WEEKLY IF YOU'D LIKE. STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT EIGHT OF THE 22 PROJECTS PLANNED IN THE CIP FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526 BE CONSIDERED ROUTINE OR RECURRING. THE TOTAL VALUE OF THESE PROJECTS IS 6.5 MILLION, NOT THE 98 MILLION THAT WAS ERRONEOUSLY REPORTED IN THE EVENT NEWS OR IN THE LETTER TO THE EDITOR. A PUBLIC WORKSHOP WAS HELD ON MAY 12TH, 2025 TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE SEVEN YEAR CIP. A PRESENTATION OF THE PROPOSED PILOT PROGRAM WAS MADE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IN THIS MEETING, ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WERE PRESENT AT THIS WORKSHOP.

AT THE JUNE 23RD CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS APPROVED THE SEVEN YEAR CIP, INCLUDING THE PILOT PROGRAM AND THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 21 A OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE AUTHORIZING CHANGES IN PURCHASING AUTHORITY LIMITS BY APPROVING ITEM FOUR TONIGHT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL COMPLETE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PILOT PROGRAM TO ACHIEVE THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE TO STREAMLINE CIP PROJECTS, TO INCREASE EFFICIENCY AND CONTAIN COSTS. THE BENEFITS OF ESTABLISHING THIS PROCESS INCLUDE ACCELERATING PROJECT DELIVERY BY 8 TO 12 WEEKS, REDUCING EXPOSURE TO INFLATION AND MARKET VOLATILITY, DELIVERING PROJECT BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY SOONER, AND INCREASING CAPACITY TO UNDERTAKE MORE PROJECTS. ALL GOOD STUFF.

THIS PROJECT DEMONSTRATES INNOVATIVE LEADERSHIP BY CITY STAFF AND THE CITY COUNCIL, JUST AS IT DID WHEN IT ESTABLISHED THE UNFUNDED PENSION LIABILITY TRUST. CYPRUS IS ONCE AGAIN DEMONSTRATING LEADERSHIP AND BUILDING A PROGRAM THAT WILL MAKE CYPRUS A STRONGER, HEALTHIER CITY BASED UPON THE BENEFITS TO BE REALIZED, THE THOROUGHNESS OF THE PROCESS THAT WAS FOLLOWED, AND THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS AND APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

CHRIS PEREZ, FOLLOWED BY DOCTOR FRANCIS MARQUEZ. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE COUNCIL AND STAFF. MY NAME IS CHRIS PEREZ. I'M WITH VALLEY VISTA SERVICES, PROUD TO BE IN SERVICE TO THE CITY OF CYPRUS. AS YOUR WASTE HAULER AND RECYCLING MANAGEMENT HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ITEM 13 TONIGHT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A REVIEW OF OUR CONTRACT AND THE TERMS. MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER AND WE JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. DOCTOR FRANCIS MARQUEZ, FOLLOWED BY LINDA STOCK. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NINE. THERE WAS NO INFORMATION ON OTHER BIDS. THAT ITEM WAS

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THAT'S YOUR JOB. SO BY ABDICATING THAT YOU'RE HANDING MORE POWER OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND, YOU KNOW, THEN WHY HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO GET BRING THE PEOPLE'S FEEDBACK. AND SO I JUST I THINK TO ME IT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IS VERY VAGUE. AND TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE A POWER GRAB. I HAVE VERY GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT. I THINK, LIKE I SAID, THE COUNCIL IS ALLOWING THE CITY MANAGER TO DO THEIR WORK AND THERE'S NO OVERSIGHT FOR RESIDENTS. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS WITH THESE CONTRACTS THERE.

THERE'S NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM. WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL, I CALLED FOR THE VENDOR TO CONFLICT OUT AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SELECT THE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS TO CONFLICT OUT. WE NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S RELATIONSHIPS HERE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND IT'S CRITICAL. ALL SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS DOES THAT. THEY REQUIRE THAT FOR PROCUREMENT. WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT. THERE'S NO TRANSPARENCY ON WHO THESE CONTRACTS ARE GOING TO. AND IF THEY HAVE ANYBODY IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HERE HAS RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE NEED FULL TRANSPARENCY. WE SHOULD SEE A LIST OF ALL THESE CONTRACTS. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WHO DECIDES ON THEM SHOULD CONFLICT OUT. AND THE BUSINESS THAT DOES THE RFP NEEDS TO CONFLICT OUT AND SAY IF THEY KNOW SOMEBODY OR IF THEY HAVE WORKED FOR THE CITY OF CYPRUS, THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT THINGS FOR TRANSPARENCY. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. LINDA STOCK FOLLOWED BY GLENN BUTTON. SECOND, GOT A TRAFFIC JAM. YOU'RE FINE. OH, I WANT TO THANK YOU. OKAY. MY NAME IS LINDA STOCK, AND I'VE BEEN LIVING IN CYPRUS SINCE 1970, SO THAT'D BE 54 YEARS. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA, THE STREAMLINING. NOW, I HEARD A NEW FIGURE, AND I'M NEW TO THIS. I. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN COMMENTING ON. NOT ONLY THIS TOPIC, BUT ANY OF THE TOPICS I JUST HEARD FROM ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS THAT IT WAS 6.2 MILLION. I HAD READ 98 MILLION OVER SEVEN YEARS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. I KNOW THAT I HEARD FROM NICK THAT IT WAS THAT THE SUPERVISION WOULD BE OVER PROJECTS UP TO 2.4 MILLION, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STORY IS, BUT THERE ISN'T ANY CAP WRITTEN IN THE AGENDA ITEM THAT I SEE. I WONDER ABOUT IF WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZEN INPUT, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH THE DELEGATION OF YOUR POWERS AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES TO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT, AND EVEN WORSE, WHO HAS BEEN ACCUSED IN THIS FORUM OF UNLAWFUL ACTS AND IN REGARD BY THE PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER. AND THESE ARE ALL PUBLIC WORKS CONTRACTS. SO I, I THINK IT'S TERRIBLE THAT A SHADOW HAS BEEN CAST OVER OUR CITY MANAGER, AND I WISH YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND DO AN INVESTIGATION, CLEAR THE AIR, GIVE THE GENTLEMAN HIS FREEDOM TO MOVE AND DO THINGS FOR YOU AND WITH YOU IN A CLEAN AIR ATMOSPHERE. SO I'M VERY OPPOSED TO ITEM FOUR BECAUSE OF BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, BUT A DELEGATION OF YOUR POWER THAT YOU WERE GIVEN BY THE CITIZENS OF CYPRUS TO A NON-ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY TO A NON-ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT'S UNDER A SHADOW OF QUESTION ONLY BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO INVESTIGATE IT. THANK YOU. GLENN

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AND NOW WE'VE GOT THREE GENERATIONS OF OUR FAMILY LIVING IN THIS FINE CITY. WE LOVE IT HERE. WANTED TO SPEAK QUICKLY ON TWO AGENDA ITEMS. I'M GOING TO SKIP THE FOLLOWING. THE APPROPRIATE HR PROCESSES FOR. DIRECTORS OF PUBLIC WORKS PREVIOUSLY. BUT YOU KNOW, I'M ENTIRELY HAPPY WITH THE THAT THE PROPER PROCEDURES OF OUR CITY WERE FOLLOWED AND I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. DESPITE THE ALLEGATIONS ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE PILOT PROJECT, I'M STRONGLY IN FAVOR FOR OF THE 22 ITEMS ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, ONLY EIGHT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT STREAMLINED PROCESS. THESE ARE ROUTINE PROJECTS. THESE ARE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS. THESE ARE RECURRING PROJECTS. THESE ARE THINGS THAT IF YOU LOOK OVER MANY YEARS OF COUNCIL ACTIONS, THEY'RE APPROVED 100% OF THE TIME. THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. SO FOR THE COUNCIL TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, RATHER THAN ON THE THINGS WHERE COUNCIL INPUT REALLY IS NEEDED, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE EFFICIENCY. AND JUMPING DOWN TO ITEM 15. AS FAR AS RESTRUCTURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, THERE'S SOME A LITTLE BIT OF BENEFIT THAT MAY RESULT FROM OPENING UP THE GENERAL COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING TO INCLUDE VIRTUAL REMARKS, BUT THAT WOULD COME WITH THE CAVEAT WITH THE PROTECTION THAT IF THAT STARTED GETTING ABUSED, THAT WE COULD PULL THAT BACK INTO JUST IN-PERSON COMMENTS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMMENTING ON THINGS THAT BENEFIT OUR CITY, AND NOT JUST SPEAKING FOR THE SAKE OF SPEAKING, BUT THE THING THAT CONCERNED ME EVEN MORE IS BREAKING UP THE AGENDA ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS INTO AGENDA ITEM BY AGENDA ITEM BY AGENDA ITEM, OPENING AND CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND IT JUST SEEMED DISRUPTIVE AT BEST. AND MAYBE IT SEEMED LIKE A SOLUTION LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM THAT IN MY WAY OF SEEING THINGS DOESN'T EXIST. SO I'M NOT AT ALL IN FAVOR OF BREAKING UP THOSE AGENDA ITEM COMMENTS. AND OTHER THAN THAT, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. JOSE TRINIDAD CASTANEDA FOLLOWED BY PEARL BOLTER. GOOD EVENING, JOSE TRINIDAD CASTANEDA, RESIDENT OF FULLERTON. BUT I LOVE CYPRUS, JUST AS ANYONE ELSE WHO LIVES IN CYPRUS. SO I WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 15 ON THE JUST. FIRST OF ALL, KUDOS TO THE AMAZING WORK THAT YOUR CITY STAFF HAVE PROVIDED. I THINK FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, YOU CAN SEE THE LEVEL OF DETAIL AND ATTENTION PAID TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FACETS FOR WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO REORGANIZE YOUR AGENDA STRUCTURE AND HAVE MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, MORE PUBLIC OR SIGNIFICANT PARTICIPATION IN YOUR MEETINGS TO THE POINT OF WHETHER OR NOT TO ALLOW ANY CHANGES AT ALL. I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE HERE, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AN AGENDA STRUCTURE AND ORAL COMMUNICATIONS PROCESS THAT OPENS UP THE CITY TO MORE LIABILITY BECAUSE YOU DON'T ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS VIA A VIRTUAL FORMAT. SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO WANT TO SUE THE CITY FOR NOT ALLOWING FOR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ON NON AGENDA ITEMS, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE A CASE THERE BASED ON MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT YOU HAVE FOR YOUR AGENDA STRUCTURE, SO IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO AT LEAST CONSIDER DISCUSSING ANY CHANGES TO ALLOW FOR EQUAL PARTICIPATION IN VIRTUAL AND IN-PERSON FORMATS, FOR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. SECOND, YOU JUST WANT TO ALLOW FOR MORE ENGAGEMENT. IN GENERAL, MORE ENGAGEMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES WHICH YOU HAVE IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM. TWO. IT'S ALL TIED TOGETHER IN TERMS OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT. SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR BIFURCATING YOUR JUST I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR SOME OF THE PREVIOUSLY SAID COMMENTS. I DON'T WANT YOU ALL TO OPEN UP THE CITY TO GREATER LIABILITIES

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I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR THIS EVENING. THE THERE WAS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION THAT WAS PRINTED IN THE EVENT NEWS ENTERPRISE. AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY GRASPING THAT THIS IS AN INNOVATIVE PILOT. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE IN THE MEETING PRIOR, THERE WAS A BID FOR A SHADE STRUCTURE IN THE PARK, AND ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT CAME UP SHOWED THAT THAT BID EXPIRED, I BELIEVE, ON JULY 20TH OR 21ST, AND WE WERE AT THE 14TH TODAY.

SO THAT ACTUALLY, RIGHT THERE WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE VOLATILITY OF PRICING OF MATERIALS FOR PROJECT. AND SO THIS PILOT PROGRAM IS HOPEFULLY GOING TO STREAMLINE. SO WE AREN'T FACING THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND LIKE WE SAW WITH THE COST INCREASE AT ARNOLD PARK, AND I WOULD SAY AT THE MIDPOINT, WE SHOULD LOOK AT SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THE OTHER PARKS PROJECTS TO STREAMLINE THAT IF THIS PILOT GOES OKAY. AND THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE WHOLE THING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND MR. DINKS, THAT'S BEEN INVESTIGATED, AND I CONSIDER THAT CLOSED COUNCIL, I COMPLETELY TRUST THE CITY MANAGER, AND I TRUST THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC AND ALL STAFF IN THE CITY. WE ARE A VERY FORTUNATE CITY THAT WE HAVE SOME GREAT STAFF AND THAT WE CAN TRUST THEM, AND WE CAN TRUST THE CITY MANAGER TO ADHERE TO WHATEVER GUIDELINES ARE IN THE ORDINANCE. AND I DO NOTICE THAT HE'S BEING REVIEWED WHAT APPEARS TO BE EVERY 30 DAYS. SO HE IS STILL CONTINUED TO BE MONITORED UNDER A MICROSCOPE BY COUNCIL. SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS THERE. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT MATERIALS, PRICING, VOLATILITY. IT'S NOT ONLY AFFECTING CITY GOVERNMENTS, IT'S AFFECTING COUNTY STATE AND IT'S AFFECTING ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL. SO I THINK THIS PILOT PROGRAM, OUR COUNCIL SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR PASSING IT. AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL PASS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED ONLINE? MAYOR, BEFORE YOU PROCEED, I KNOW WE JUMPED RIGHT INTO THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL RECREATION WORKSHOP, BUT THERE WASN'T AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO REPORT OUT OF THE WORKSHOP IN CLOSED SESSION. SO IF I IF YOU COULD INDULGE ME, I WILL PROCEED TO DO THAT. YEAH. MY APOLOGIES. I DON'T THINK I SAW IT ON THE AGENDA, BUT YEAH, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND I'LL GIVE YOU A REPORT OF THE WORKSHOP IN CLOSED SESSION. IT'S AT THE END OF THE SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND ALL THOSE PRESENT. THE CITY COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION AND PRECEDED BY A WORKSHOP SESSION AS PART OF THE SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA THAT IS AVAILABLE. THE FIRST ITEM WAS, PARDON ME. THE WORKSHOP SESSION ON UPDATING AND BRANDING LOGO DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED AN UPDATE AND SAW SAMPLES OF THOSE PROPOSED LOGOS AND THE REVISED CITY SEAL, AND DIRECTED CITY STAFF TO SURVEY THE COMMUNITY WITH FOUR OPTIONS FOR THE DIFFERENT DESIGNS OF THE LOGO, AND THAT SURVEY WILL RETURN TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE MEETING. CITY COUNCIL ALSO MET ON ON THE CLOSED SITE.

PARDON ME. CLOSED SESSION ITEMS BEGINNING WITH THE FIRST ONE CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNCIL.

ONE ITEM OF EXISTING LITIGATION, THE MATTER OF YOUNGSMA AND ADDITIONAL PARTIES VERSUS CYPRESS SCHOOL DISTRICT, CITY OF CYPRESS. THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON THAT CASE AND NO FURTHER REPORTABLE ACTION WAS TAKEN. FINALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL MET ON THE SECOND ITEM ON THE CLOSED SESSION PORTION OF THE AGENDA. PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION TITLE.

CITY MANAGER CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED AN UPDATE AND HELD A DISCUSSION, AND NO FURTHER REPORTABLE ACTION WAS TAKEN. AND I SHOULD SAY, PROVIDED DIRECTION TO LEGAL COUNSEL. THAT CONCLUDES

[ CONSENT CALENDAR All matters listed on the Consent Calendar are to be approved with one motion unless a Council Member requests separate action on a specific item. Council Members voting no or abstaining on a Consent Calendar item may do so without removing the item from the Consent Calendar.]

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THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE ON ONE ITEM NUMBER TEN. THIS IS. AND IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME JUST TO ASK.

YEAH, PLEASE. TWO QUESTIONS TO HIM. THIS IS ITEM TEN. APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR INDEPENDENT AUDITING SERVICES. AND PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT THIS. AND SO I WANTED TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT. DIRECTOR. ONE QUESTION. HOW COME WE'RE NOT USING A BIG FOUR AUDITOR? AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS SWITCHING AUDITORS. I KNOW IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR SOMETIMES RAISES FLAGS, BUT HERE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR, IS THAT NORMAL? YES. MAYOR PRO TEM, TO ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER FIRMS, THEY EITHER TEND NOT TO FOCUS ON GOVERNMENTAL CLIENTS. AND THOSE THAT DO THEIR FOCUS WOULD BE ON A MUCH LARGER ENTITY THAN SOMETHING THE SIZE OF THE CITY OF CYPRUS. SO, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE'RE MORE IN THE SIGHTS OF WHAT WE CALL A MEDIUM SIZED FIRM. AND THEN TO ANSWER THE SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION IS IT IS A RECOMMENDED PRACTICE TO PERIODICALLY CHANGE AUDITORS. YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO CHANGE YEAR AFTER YEAR BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO DEVELOPING WHAT THEY CALL A PERMANENT FILE AND BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH AN AUDITOR. BUT EVERY 5 TO 10 YEARS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE TO GET A NEW SET OF EYES TO KIND OF FOCUS AND SEE HOW OUR OPERATIONS ARE AND PROVIDE THEIR INPUT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG. YEAH. I ALSO HAD A COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER TEN. I SAW THAT WE DID HAVE THE OTHER VENDORS, BUT I DIDN'T SEE A PRICE WITH THOSE.

SO IN THE FUTURE, DO YOU THINK WE COULD ADD ALSO THE NOT JUST THE VENDOR NAMES BUT ALSO THE BIDDING AMOUNT FOR THOSE? I KNOW IT'S A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AND YOU'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PICK THE LOWEST BIDDER. AND IN A LOT OF INSTANCES FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THE RESPONDENTS AREN'T PROVIDING BIDS. WE'RE ASSESSING THEM ON QUALIFICATIONS AND THEN NEGOTIATING A SCOPE OF WORK VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE PROCUREMENT OF GOODS OR PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS. AND I ALSO WANT TO PULL ITEM NUMBER FOUR FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I WAS ALSO GOING TO ASK ABOUT ITEM TEN, AND I WASN'T SURE IF I WOULD PULL IT OR NOT, BUT I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG ASKED ABOUT WHAT WE DON'T SEE THE BIDS OR THE COSTS. IS THIS A URGENT ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED AT THIS MEETING, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY WAIT TILL NEXT MEETING WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES TO THE CITY? I WOULD CALL THIS AN URGENT ITEM. WE NEED TO BEGIN THE AUDIT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND SO THE PLAN IS FOR THE AUDITORS TO MEET IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO AND BEGIN THEIR INTERIM FIELD WORK SOON THEREAFTER. OKAY. YEAH, I GUESS TO ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG'S QUESTION OR COMMENT, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACTS ARE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN, I GUESS, PUBLIC WORKS CONTRACTS, ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S SORT OF DIFFICULT FOR THE COUNCIL IF WE DON'T SEE THE COSTS OR THE PROPOSALS TO ASSESS, I GUESS, HOW THEY COMPARED. AND I WAS ON ANOTHER BOARD MEETING FOR AN OUTSIDE BOARD AND SOMEONE BROUGHT THIS UP. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, LIKE ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION, IT'S NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE CHOICE WASN'T CORRECT. IT'S JUST HOW WOULD WE EVER KNOW IF WE DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS OR THE RANKINGS OR COSTS? SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S I GUESS. COUNCILMEMBER CHANG ASKED IF MORE INFORMATION COULD BE INCLUDED OR INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE. IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO CREATE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR AND DISCUSS WHAT WE WANT INCLUDED WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, CONTRACTS OR OR CAN CITY STAFF JUST INCLUDE THE COSTS AND MAYBE THE PROPOSALS AND THE CRITERIA USED TO ASSESS THEM IN THE FUTURE? IT'S SOMETHING, CONSIDERING THE RANGE THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IN THE AMOUNT OF WORK POTENTIALLY

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YEAH, I GUESS I SHOULD ADD IF AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR CITY MANAGER, IF THERE'S SORT OF A MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT ITEMS TO INCLUDE AND, AND HAVE THAT EVALUATION, CERTAINLY A SEPARATE ITEM IS APPROPRIATE IF YOU'RE JUST SAYING TO THE EXTENT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

CONTRACTORS PROVIDE AN OFFERED PRICE, THE COUNCIL COULD SIMPLY PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION OR PERHAPS AN HOURLY RATE OR A SET PRICE TO CONDUCT THE SERVICE, IN THIS CASE, AN AUDIT. BUT AGAIN, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS A MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT OPTIONS TO INCLUDE, THEN I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR CITY MANAGER. OKAY, WELL I GUESS YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, PERHAPS IT'S SUITED TO A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. YEAH, I AGREE, I'M FINE WITH LEAVING THIS IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND THEN REVISITING THIS ANOTHER TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAD ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM. IT WAS THE NUMBER NINE. AND FOR OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. SO I KNOW WE HAD JUST SO I UNDERSTAND I KNOW WE HAD APPROVED THIS CONTRACT ABOUT A YEAR AGO, BUT THE WORK HASN'T STARTED BECAUSE WE KIND OF RAN INTO AN ISSUE. CAN YOU JUST KIND OF LET ME KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON THIS? YES. SO THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED LAST JULY BY CITY COUNCIL. DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS, THERE WERE A FEW UNFORESEEN ITEMS THAT WERE DISCOVERED THAT WERE FOUND WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING THROUGH THE FACILITY. THESE REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STRUCTURAL SUPPORTS TO SUPPORT THE ROOFTOP UNITS ON THE H FOR THE ROOF. THE CONTRACTOR IS READY TO BEGIN WORK, BUT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF THE CHANGE ORDER, WE DO NEED TO AMEND THE CONTRACT TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT WORK. IF IT IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, THE CONTRACTOR IS READY TO BEGIN WORK AND WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH THE CURRENT TENANT, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, TO RELOCATE THEIR SERVICES SO THAT THE WORK CAN PROCEED WITHOUT IMPACTING THE OCCUPANTS. OKAY. AND THEN IS THERE A TIMELINE OR A SENSE OF WHEN IT WOULD BE COMPLETED? ROUGHLY 3 TO 4 MONTHS FOR COMPLETION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? ALL RIGHT THEN I GUESS I WILL MOVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE AND FIVE THROUGH TEN. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. BE SURE TO LOOK IN YOUR VOTES.

THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. THAT BRINGS US TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. FIRST UP, APPROVE A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP FOR A 20 UNIT TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT AT 5302 LINCOLN AVENUE. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD DISCLOSE AT THIS TIME ANY COMMUNICATIONS THEY HAD WITH ANYONE RELEVANT TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY SUCH COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE? ALL RIGHT. OKAY, THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATION FROM OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, ALICIA VELASCO. SORRY. GIVE US ONE SECOND. SURE. I DID MEET RONALD MCDONALD ONE TIME, AND THE HAMBURGLAR, DOES THAT COUNT? NO.

OKAY, THANKS. HOLD FOR KYLE TO COME BACK FOR PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF

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OH, NO. AND WE'RE BACK. ALL RIGHT, MISS VELASCO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

[11. Approve a Tentative Tract Map for a 20-Unit Townhome Development at 5302 Lincoln Avenue Prepared by: Alicia Velasco, Planning Director Recommendation: 1. Adopt a Resolution approving Tentative Tract Map No. 19358 and finding the project exempt from California Environmental Quality Act requirements; and 2. Authorize the City Manager to execute an Affordable Housing Agreement.]

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AND NOW I WILL INVITE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM TO COME FORWARD. I HAVE TWO CARDS FROM SHIRLEY BONHAM AND THEN ANNE MALLORY. AND ALSO IF YOU'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK TO THE EXTENT THEY WANT TO CLARIFY ANY POINTS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO START WITH. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET HER COMMENT BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN WAITING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. YES, DEAR COUNCILMAN AND MAYOR, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU IN REGARDS TO THIS ITEM 11, WHICH IS TO BUILD 20. 23 STORY TOWNHOME STYLE CONDOMINIUMS AT 5302 LINCOLN AVENUE IN CYPRUS. THE PROPOSAL CRAMS 23 STORY CONDOS AND A VERY SMALL LOT. THAT'S ONLY 0.57 EIGHTH OF AN ACRE. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR THIS. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO OPEN SPACE.

THERE'S NO FRONT YARD. THE BUILDING IS RIGHT NEAR THE SIDEWALK. THERE'S NO SPACE ON THE SIDES OF THIS BUILDING. THERE'S NO SPACE IN THE BACK. THEY WANT TO THEY WANT AN AGREEMENT TO REDUCE THE BACK PART. AND THERE, THERE THERE'S SO THERE'S FROM WHAT'S NORMAL AND THERE'S NO SPACE AT ALL IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT'S JUST BUILDING, BUILDING, BUILDING, BUILDING FOR BUILD HUGE THREE STORY BUILDINGS WITH NO LOT. AND THIS PUTS THESE BUILDINGS RIGHT ON TOP OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THAT ARE ON BISHOP STREET. THE KIDS THAT LIVE IN THIS PLACE HAVE NO PLACE TO PLAY. THEY'LL BE ON THE ACCESS ROAD AND THEY WILL BE HIT BY CARS BECAUSE THERE IS NO ABSOLUTELY NOT A, YOU KNOW, A FOOT OF OPEN SPACE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE'S NO PLACE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO SIT ON THE OUTSIDE ON A CHAIR, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT IT. THERE'S JUST AN ACCESS ROAD WHERE NOBODY CAN GO BECAUSE THEY'LL BE HIT BY THE CARS. AND THIS ACCESS ROAD IS ALSO TOO NARROW. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING, IT, IT HITS INTO THE LINE. YOU CAN'T BE DRAWN CORRECTLY INTO THE PLAN BECAUSE IT HITS INTO THE GARAGES. ON FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING, AND IT ALSO HITS INTO THE PROPOSED SHRUBBERY THAT'S IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. IT IT IT DOESN'T EVEN FIT. YOU CAN'T BE DRAWN ON THE ON THE PLAN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT. AND HOW HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE ARE ARE OKAY.

BYE, YOU GUYS. BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S NOTHING FOR VISITORS.

THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR REPAIR TRUCKS. NOTHING. AND PEOPLE WANT TO PUT STUFF IN THEIR GARAGE AND PARK IN A PARKING SPACE OR ON A DRIVEWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THEY CAN KEEP THEIR STUFF IN THEIR GARAGE. THERE'S NO PARKING SPACES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. PLEASE FINISH YOUR THOUGHT. OKAY. AND THE GARBAGE TRUCK DOES NOT HAVE ROOM TO PICK

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS ANN MALLORY, LONGTIME RESIDENT OF CYPRESS AND FORMER MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER. THE PROJECT THAT IS BEFORE YOU IS THE RESULT OF ALL OF THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRING CITIES TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS TO BUILD HIGHER DENSITY HOMES. AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT WE DO HAVE A REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WAS APPROVED A FEW YEARS BACK, AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE RESULTS OF THIS. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS TWO BLOCKS FROM ME, AND I AM IN GENERAL, I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE ALONG LINCOLN AVENUE. WE ZONED FOR A HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING THERE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS AS THESE DEVELOPMENTS OCCUR, AND I AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SETBACKS AND THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AND THE BACK OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. WHAT I'D LIKE TO JUST ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO DO IS, AS A DEVELOPMENT GOES UP, IF YOU COULD JUST PRIORITIZE ASSESSING THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS GENERALLY AFFECT TRAFFIC FLOW? BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. WE KNOW WHAT WE PROJECT. BUT WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE OUR AMAZING STAFF TO DO IS TO JUST WHAT IS THIS RESULT IN IN TERMS OF PARKING ALONG GRINDLEY OR ON WATSON OR ON BISHOP? WHAT DO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF SOME ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE? BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS ALONG LINCOLN. AND DO WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THAT? DO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE USING SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTY OR SPACES THAT WE HAVE, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE IT JUST AS MUCH OF A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE AS THE PLACES THAT WE ALL ENJOY? WE'RE STILL, I THINK WE'RE BUILDING AS WE'RE PLANNING AND PLANNING AS WE'RE BUILDING, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE UNITS ARE ANTICIPATED TO SELL FOR CLOSE TO $1 MILLION, 800,000 IS WHAT I'M HEARING. AND THEN THE AFFORDABLE UNITS WILL OF COURSE, BE LESS. AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT TOO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR FRANCIS MARQUEZ. YES, I WANTED I REMEMBER WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS ON THE AGENDA AND THERE WAS A FEW THINGS I REMEMBER THAT I WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. FIRST OF ALL, THIS PROPERTY CAME OUT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT THIS PROPERTY, ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. CYPRUS NEEDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT CAME OUT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE PROJECT SHOULD HAVE FOCUSED ON THAT. THERE WAS ALSO A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. OUR CITY MANAGER HAD WORKED FOR THE OLSON COMPANY, HE SAID. IT WAS LIKE 20 YEARS AGO, BUT THAT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST RIGHT THERE. AND I FELT LIKE THE PRICE WAS PRETTY MUCH A GIVEAWAY. AND WE ONLY GOT TWO AFFORDABLE UNITS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO THINK HARDER AND SMARTER AND REALLY LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS. PEOPLE ARE LEAVING CYPRUS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. $1 MILLION FOR A UNIT ON LINCOLN AVENUE, I THINK, WITH NO SPACE FOR KIDS OR ANYTHING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS NOT HAPPY THAT THIS WENT THROUGH. I MADE CALLS TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, AND IT DID COME OUT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON

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THANK YOU. OKAY. I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CARDS ON THIS ITEM, SO I'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD. GOOD EVENING. LET ME START BY SAYING I THINK THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WAS MISTAKENLY REFERENCING A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT DEVELOPED BY BY THE OLSON COMPANY. WE. THERE'S NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST. IS THIS CORRECT? IN REGARD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD? WE COMPLIED WITH EVERY STANDARD THAT'S IN THE BOOK. HERE AT THE CITY, WE MET ALL THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, ALL THE HEIGHT, ALL THE ACCESS, ALL THE SETBACKS. AND I THINK THE INFORMATION THAT THERE IS NO SPACE FOR, FOR CHILDREN IS INCORRECT. IF WE CAN LOOK BACK AT THE SITE MAP. YOU'LL SEE THE SPACE ON THE SIDE OF EACH BUILDING, LIKE ALONGSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE, THERE'S A TEN FOOT SPACE THAT'S A GREEN SPACE ON EACH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND IN THE MIDDLE THERE'S ABOUT 16 OR 17FT OF GREEN SPACE. SO THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF PLAY AREA, SHADE AREA, SITTING AREA. KIDS WOULD NOT BE IN THE STREET. THE OTHER THING THAT THAT WE DESIGNED HERE IS A PATTERN OF TRAFFIC. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY GETTING INTO THE PROPERTY WHEN YOU'RE HEADING EASTBOUND ON LINCOLN AND EXITING ON THE SAME SIDE, ALSO HEADING BACK ON EAST, SO THERE'LL BE VERY MINIMAL IMPACT, LIKE CROSSING TRAFFIC TRYING TO CROSS TO THE OTHER SIDE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. AND ON AFFORDABILITY, WE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ANY AFFORDABLE UNITS. BUT WE DID TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE DENSITY BONUS. AND WE PROVIDED TWO UNITS, AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND ALSO THERE WAS SOME MISREPRESENTATION ABOUT THE PRICE BEING $1 MILLION PER UNIT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT AVERAGE. YOU KNOW, CONDOS IN THE AREAS SELLING ABOUT 700 TO 7, 50 TO 800,000. SO I HOPE THAT THAT'S EXAGGERATED. THAT EXAGGERATION IS OUT OF PICTURE. IS IT OKAY IF I ASK A QUESTION? IS IT OKAY IF I ASK A QUESTION.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO LET HIM FINISH. BUT THEN YES. YEAH I'M OPEN TO QUESTION. OKAY. AND JUST TO CONFIRM, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG. YEAH. CAN YOU POINT OUT THE IS THERE A VISITOR PARKING ON THIS AREA THAT WASN'T REQUIRED? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO. IF THERE'S NO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR COMMENTS SO YOU CAN BE SEATED. AND SO YOU HAD YOUR YOU HAD YOUR COMMENT PERIOD. WELL, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT IF YOU LIKE, BUT ARE THERE IS THERE. SO THAT SHOULDN'T BE. YEAH. SO WE SHOULD I THINK YOU SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE TRY AND MAINTAIN A TIME LIMIT ON ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. JUST TO CLARIFY HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE IN THIS WHOLE UNIT, IF ARE THERE ANY FOR VISITORS. YES.

THANK YOU. WE CAN GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT. SO I KNOW WHERE THIS OPEN SPACE HE TALKS ABOUT THAT PEOPLE CAN SIT IN OR PLAY IS BECAUSE I DON'T SEE OKAY. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU'RE WELCOME TO. MAKE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR OUR STAFF, THOSE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME AS WELL, I BELIEVE, AND IF

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FORMER MAYOR COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THERE'S NO LEGAL JUSTIFICATION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DENY THE PERMIT FOR THIS PROCESS. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE. THE GOVERNOR OF THIS STATE AND THE SUPERMAJORITY HAVE BASICALLY LAID DOWN GUIDELINES THAT WE ARE MANDATED TO FOLLOW, LIKE NOT HAVING ANY PARKING RESTRICTIONS. OR HAVING PARKING RESTRICTIONS OR NOT HAVING THEM. TO ME, THESE THINGS, THEY DON'T MAKE SENSE. THEY'RE VERY TROUBLING TO ME. AND I FEEL FOR YOU. I THINK WE ALL DO AT SOME POINT IN SOME DEGREE UP HERE, WE FEEL FOR WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN I WAS A POLICE SERGEANT IN LONG BEACH, I SAW NEIGHBORHOODS RUINED, QUITE HONESTLY. BY WHAT THEN? LONG BEACH WAS PROPOSING. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED, SOME OF WHICH. EXCUSE ME, WERE PREVENTABLE ON THE CITY'S PART. BUT ALSO HAD AN ECONOMIC IMPACT WHEN AS A NATION, WE TOOK A HIT ECONOMICALLY. RIGHT. SO THOSE WERE SOME UNFORESEEN THINGS THAT HAPPENED. A COUPLE THINGS. THAT I THINK FRANCIS MAY HAVE BEEN WAS TALKING ABOUT. FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ. EXCUSE ME. THE PROJECT THAT THE OLSON COMPANY DID, WHICH HE COMMENTED ABOUT CITY MANAGER. WAS THE PROJECT ACROSS LINCOLN AND DOWN NEXT TO THE POST OFFICE, AT WHICH TIME THE CITY MANAGER DID DISCLOSE THAT HE HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH OLSON COMPANY. AND I THINK AT THAT TIME, I DON'T THINK I KNOW I AND OTHERS CLARIFIED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY MANAGER HAD A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, WHICH THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, NO, THERE WAS NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND I APPLAUD OUR CITY MANAGER FOR BEING TRANSPARENT WITH THAT AND LETTING US KNOW WELL AHEAD OF NOT JUST IN COUNCIL, BUT BEFORE THAT MEETING EVER TOOK PLACE. ADDITIONALLY, ANOTHER THING THAT WAS MENTIONED IS THAT. HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AS A CITY, WE DID REACH OUT TO HABITAT VIA EMAIL. AND THEY GRACIOUSLY SHOWED UP HERE AND EXPLAINED THAT THERE WAS A TURNOVER IN LEADERSHIP FOR THAT DISTRICT OR WHATEVER FOR HABITAT, HUMANITY. AND I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I, I THINK BECAUSE THE SPEAKER WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. OKAY. ALL OF THAT TESTIMONY IS REALLY NOT RELEVANT TO THIS MATTER. I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY POINT OUT THAT WE DID REACH OUT TO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND TRY TO GET THEM ENGAGED, BUT THERE WAS THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT DIDN'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT WE'VE NEVER RULED OUT HAVING THEM COME OUT. SO. TO REITERATE MY FINAL POINT. BUT AND I'VE ASKED MISS VELASCO THIS ON SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED, THERE WAS ONE ON BISHOP THAT WAS KIND OF CONTROVERSIAL BECAUSE OF PARKING AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, BUT WE ARE REALLY HAMSTRUNG. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DENY THIS PERMIT FOR THIS PROJECT. AND AGAIN, MY HEART GOES OUT TO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY THAT, WHETHER RIGHT NOW OR IN THE FUTURE, IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN PERSONALLY THE IMPACTS THAT THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE. BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THIS COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT AS A COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND THE CITY AS A

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WERE YOU YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT PARKING OR TRAFFIC OR TRYING TO RECALL? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED? OKAY. SO IF YOU'RE ASKING OKAY, REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. NO, NOT TO NOT TO NOT TO. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH. SO THERE WAS A AN IMPACT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG DIRECTOR, THAT AN ASSESSMENT WAS DONE FOR THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND SO FORTH. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE I THOUGHT THE REQUEST WAS FROM THE SPEAKERS WERE TO GO AHEAD AND MONITOR THAT IN THE FUTURE AND SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT LONG TERM OR. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? OKAY. THEN AT THIS TIME I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE ITEM, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. A SECOND. MR. CITY ATTORNEY, DO WE NEED TO READ IT EXACTLY OR. NO, IT'S I JUST PUT IN THE RECORD THE FACT THAT THERE IS THAT CORRECTION. IT WAS A TYPO, BUT THERE IS NO ORDINANCE TO READ, SO YOU COULD PROCEED. OKAY. SO TO CLARIFY, THIS IS NOT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO CAN YOU JUST RESTATE YOUR YOUR MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE TENTATIVE TRACK MAP FOR A 20 UNIT TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT AT 5302 LINCOLN AVENUE? AND I'LL SECOND THAT. SO IT'S A TWO PART RECOMMENDATION OR JUST SAY MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION. I MOVE TO MOVE THE RECOMMENDED ACTION. I'LL SECOND IT.

HE SHARED A LOCK IN YOUR VOTES. WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 330, FOLKS. SO JUST WE'RE WE'RE

[12. Approve Conditional Use Permit No. 2025-01 for a Drive-Thru Fast Food Restaurant at 4125 Ball Road Prepared by: Alicia Velasco, Planning Director Recommendation: Adopt a Resolution approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2025-01 and confirm the project is exempt from California Environmental Quality Act requirements.]

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THAT. YEAH. SO IT'S A IT'S A MCDONALD'S POLICY TO REQUEST 24 HOURS. AND TYPICALLY WE LIKE OUR OUR DRIVE THRUS TO OPERATE AT A 24 HOUR. AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE FRANCHISEE ONCE THIS ONE'S AWARDED AND THEY CAN ADJUST THEIR HOURS AFTER THAT. SO TYPICALLY I WOULD SAY IF YOU TOOK THE MAJORITY OF THE SURROUNDING MCDONALD'S IN THIS AREA, MOST OF THEM HAVE A 24 HOUR DRIVE THROUGH. AND THEN THEIR DINING ROOM IS OPEN TILL ABOUT MIDNIGHT. JUST TO CLARIFY THAT REALLY QUICK, IS THIS GOING TO BE A FRANCHISE OWN STORE RIGHT AWAY, OR IS IT GOING TO BE A CORP STORE AND THEN TRANSFER TO A FRANCHISEE? IT'S GOING TO BE FRANCHISED. IT'S NOT A CORPORATE STORE. YEP. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF IS NOW A GOOD TIME OR SHOULD WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST. YOU COULD ASK STAFF BUT IS PROBABLY BEST AFTER YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UNLESS YOU THINK THAT WILL BRING UP A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT AS WELL. OKAY. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I WASN'T SURE IF DOCTOR MARQUEZ OR COUNCIL MEMBER MALLORY, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AS WELL? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T CUTTING ANYBODY OUT. OKAY, THEN, IF NOBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THE ITEM BACK TO COUNCIL FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I WAS GOING TO ASK. I THINK I SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THERE'S A NET LOSS OF 16 PARKING SPOTS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER, IS THAT RIGHT? I BELIEVE IT'S THERE IS 420 PARKING SPACES CURRENTLY, AND WE'LL GO TO 415. OKAY. AND SO WHEN IN THE SLIDE IT HAD SAID THAT THE PARKING WAS STILL SUFFICIENT. IS THAT DOES THAT MEAN IT MEETS LEGAL REQUIREMENTS OR IS SUFFICIENT LIKE A SEPARATE JUST ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE THINK IS A THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF PARKING? RIGHT. SO THE SHOPPING CENTER MEETS THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE APPLICANT HAD THEIR ENGINEERS PREPARE A PARKING DEMAND STUDY BASED ON HOW THEY KNOW THAT MCDONALD'S OPERATES. THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE SURE THEY GET THE QUEUING LINES RIGHT AND WHY THEY HAVE TWO ORDERING LANES. THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HERE AND COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT BETTER THAN ME. BUT THEY DO THESE DEMAND STUDIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR MCDONALD'S OPERATE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY. AND THEIR STUDY ALSO FOUND THAT IT'S SUFFICIENT. OKAY. AND SO AND I SUPPOSE AND SO MY CONCERN IS JUST RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT THE SHOPPING CENTER TO BE OVERCROWDED AND VERY DIFFICULT FOR RESIDENTS TO FIND PARKING. AND SO BUT IF I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS WE COULD PROPOSE TO ALLOW FOR MORE PARKING SPOTS OR NOT REALLY, THE ONLY WAY TO PROVIDE MORE PARKING WOULD BE TO REDUCE THE DRIVE THROUGH LANES OR REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH

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WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, THAT IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, I SEE YOU HAD A REQUEST. YEAH, JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION. I FREQUENT THE ONE ON VALLEY VIEW, SO I KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE TWO LANE PROCESS. DID YOU WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE, THE BUILDING AND THE WHOLE FLOW OF CARS, DID YOU SEE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE OUTFLOW? WELL, THE INFLOW, I GUESS, OF CARS COMING INTO THE QUEUE. IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE GOING TO BE A WAITING DO YOU ANTICIPATE, BASED ON TRAFFIC AT A MCDONALD'S, AT A TYPICAL MCDONALD'S, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE CARS KIND OF WAITING OUT INTO THE PARKING LOT, OR IS THE QUEUE ENOUGH OF THE LINES TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE YOUR ANTICIPATED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT MY QUESTION IS? I DON'T KNOW. IS THAT FOR YOU? DO YOU WANT TO RETURN IT TO THE APPLICANT? SO YEAH, WHAT I NEED TO I DON'T WANT TO REOPEN THE HEARING TO SO I CAN REOPEN THE HEARING. OKAY.

THE ENGINEER CAN ANSWER. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. SO I'LL REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I THINK IT ESSENTIALLY, IF DID YOU GET THE QUESTION? I'M NOT SURE IF I EXPLAINED IT CORRECTLY, BUT YEAH. BARRETTO TRAFFIC CONSULTANT FOR THE TEAM HERE. SO SIMPLE QUESTION IS IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. OH IT'S A SIMPLE ANSWER.

IS THERE'S ENOUGH QUEUING WITHIN THE DESIGN ACCOMMODATES IT BASED ON OUR ASSESSMENT. AND ALICIA MENTIONED 1819 CARS PEAK. THAT WAS FORECAST. AND LOOKING AT HOW THE PROJECT WOULD OPERATE WOULD BE ABOUT 1516 VEHICLES. SO WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT REALLY QUICK. WHAT ARE THE WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS PROJECT THE PEAK HOURS TO BE. SO AND THAT'S REALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT EITHER THE MID DAY OR THE EVENING OR THE AFTERNOON IS WHAT IT WOULD END UP BEING. BUT SCOTT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT. BUT JUST BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE ON LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TYPE OF STUDIES FOR FAST FOOD DRIVE THRUS, INCLUDING MCDONALD'S, IT'S USUALLY THE MIDDAY OR THE EARLY AFTERNOON OR THE EVENING PEAK AS PEOPLE ARE HEADED HOME, RIGHT. SO LUNCH AND DINNER, BASICALLY LUNCH AND DINNER. RIGHT ON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. AND THEN I WANTED TO ASK, BASED ON COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ADD A CONDITION PERTAINING TO THE PERMISSIBLE HOURS OF DINE IN UP OPERATION OR NOT? THE CITY COUNCIL CAN PLACE THAT RESTRICTION ON A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IF THE CITY COUNCIL CHOOSES TO. OKAY, SO COUNCILMEMBER, I WASN'T SURE IF MAYBE YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND IF SO, WE CAN MAYBE OPEN THE HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT. BUT I JUST GOING OFF WHAT YOU WERE THINKING, AS I APPRECIATE THAT, I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEED TO, TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS. NOW, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS JUST WAIT AND SEE ONCE IT'S UP AND RUNNING, AND SEE IF WE DO ENCOUNTER ANY, ANY PROBLEMS THAT, THAT WE CAN BRING IT BACK. BUT I THINK THE I THINK IT COULD RESOLVE ITSELF ON ITS OWN IF THINGS DO COME UP. BUT THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF HAVING THE CUP, IS THAT WE CAN ALWAYS BRING IT BACK. BUT I DON'T FORESEE ANY. RIGHT. SO IF THERE WERE ISSUES AT THE MCDONALD'S, THEN, YOU KNOW, FIRST, PROBABLY IF IT WAS AFTER HOURS PD WOULD BE CONTACTED, THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE CONTACTED. SO THE CITY WOULD HAVE A LOT OF DIALOG WITH THE MANAGER AND THE FRANCHISEE

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THAT MOTION CARRIES WITH FOUR YES VOTES AND ONE NO VOTE BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG. ALL RIGHT,

[13. Approve the Scope of Work for a Performance Review of the Solid Waste Franchise Prepared by: Nick Mangkalakiri, Director of Public Works Recommendation: Approve the scope of work for a performance review of the Solid Waste Franchise.]

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OKAY. WILL WE COMPARE PERFORMANCE FOR VARIOUS SAFETY, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND COLLECTION PRODUCTIVITY AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE BENCHMARKS TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS ONLY TO WHAT IS REQUIRED IN THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, BUT NOTHING COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES? NO. SO DOES IT GET COMPARED TO A GENERAL LIKE INDUSTRY STANDARD OR NO, IT WOULD JUST BE. WE'RE CHECKING WHETHER IT COMPLIES WITH THE AGREEMENT, JUST COMPLIANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT. OKAY. COULD WE POTENTIALLY CHECK WHETHER IT COMPLIES WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS. WE COULD ADD IT TO THE SCOPE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH VALLEY VISTA.

THE CURRENT SCOPE IS WHAT VALLEY VISTA HAS AGREED TO IN TERMS OF THE PAYMENT SHARE OF IT. WE ARE LOOKING TO SPLIT THE COST 5050. SO ANY ADDITIONAL ADDITIONS TO THE SCOPE? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. OKAY. AND THEN I'LL GO AHEAD. CAN YOU REPEAT REPEAT THAT LAST ONE AGAIN. YEAH. AND THIS IS JUST A SENTENCE I PULLED FROM ANOTHER CITY'S PERFORMANCE REVIEW. COMPARE PERFORMANCE FOR VARIOUS SAFETY, CUSTOMER SERVICE, COLLECTION, PRODUCTIVITY, DIVERSION RATE AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE BENCHMARKS TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT A AUDIT OF FINANCIALS SUCH AS ANNUAL PROFIT OR LOSS? FINANCIALS MAY BE PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, SO WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE. WE DO HAVE THAT DISCLAIMER IN THE REPORT ITSELF ABOUT FINANCIALS FOR THESE COMPANIES OKAY. ALL RIGHT I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THE MOMENT. SO COUNCILMEMBER PETE, I SEE YOU REQUESTED TO SPEAK AS WELL. YEAH. THANK YOU. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS BACK IN APRIL, WHAT WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT OR DIDN'T EVEN KNOW, I DON'T THINK AT THE TIME IS THAT KIRSTEN, WHO WAS THE MAIN PERSON THAT MANAGED THIS CONTRACT, WHO HAD THE EXPERTISE, HAS SINCE LEFT FOR A PROMOTION, WHICH IS GREAT FOR HER. SO THE TIMING, HONESTLY IS REALLY GOOD TO HAVE KIND OF A BENCHMARK IF YOU WANT TO SAY OF KIND OF WHERE WE ARE, HOW THINGS ARE WORKING AND WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE. SO IT'S JUST THINGS KIND OF WORKED OUT THAT WAY. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DIDN'T PLAN. BUT AND I APPRECIATE I FULLY SUPPORT THIS AND I'M AND I APPRECIATE VALLEY VISTA SHARING IN THAT IN THAT EFFORT TOO. SO THANK YOU. OOPS. COUNCILMEMBER CHANG, WHAT ARE THE DIVERSION RATES. YOU MENTIONED THAT RECENTLY. IT'S FOR RECYCLING. IT'S ALSO FOR CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS TO SEE HOW MUCH WE ARE DIVERTING FROM LANDFILLS AND ALSO FOR ORGANICS AS WELL. OKAY. AND DOES VALLEY VIEW, DO THEY ISSUE CITATIONS. IF THERE IS IF SOMEONE DOES PUT SOMETHING IN THE WRONG WRONG BIN, NO THEY DO NOT AT THIS TIME. NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL I GUESS MY THOUGHT WAS IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THE TOPICS I MENTIONED WERE ALREADY PLANNED TO BE COVERED. MY THINKING IS IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL TRY AND GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN. SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO INCLUDE THE COMPARING THE, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE TO INDUSTRY BENCHMARKS AND THEN THE FINANCIAL AUDIT OF ANNUAL PROFIT OR LOSS. WE CAN INCLUDE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE PERHAPS INVITE UP THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM VALLEY VISTA TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT ADDITION TO THE SCOPE OF WORK.

COUNCILMEMBER PETE, PERSONALLY, I THINK IF IT'S NOT REQUIRED BY THE CONTRACT, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE ASKING THEM FOR FINANCIAL. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS. MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE US. SO IF

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I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE REALLY ARE INDUSTRY STANDARDS THAT EXIST BECAUSE THERE'S NATIONAL STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, LOCAL STANDARDS. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS. BUT BUT WE WOULD WELCOME ANY COMPARISON TO, TO ANY SORT OF OTHER HAULERS OR ANY SORT OF OTHER CONTRACT. I THINK WE'RE PERFORMING VERY WELL ON THIS CONTRACT. I THINK WE WOULD WELCOME ANY SORT OF COMPARISON WITH REGARDS TO FINANCIALS, FINANCIALS AS A COMPORT TO THIS CONTRACT TO A DEGREE. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE WILLING TO DISCLOSE, YOU KNOW, THE RATES. YOU CAN SEE THE BILLINGS, YOU CAN SEE THE FRANCHISE FEES PAID. SO YOU CAN GET A FEELING FOR WHAT WE'RE NETTING I MEAN NET. BUT AS FAR AS PROFITABILITY THAT'S A DANGEROUS THING BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD.

AND WE'RE IN A VERY COMPETITIVE FIELD IN A VERY COMPETITIVE AREA. AND ANYTHING THAT COULD BE RELEASED TO OUR COMPETITION, THAT MIGHT GIVE THEM INSIGHT INTO HOW WE OPERATE AND HOW WE MAINTAIN OUR LOW OVERHEADS, OUR COMPETITIVE NATURE, THAT COULD BE VERY DAMAGING TO THE COMPANY.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE REFRAIN FROM ANYTHING TO, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IS KIND OF FAIR GAME. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. THANK YOU. I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY YEAH, A BALANCE TO STRIKE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO REVEAL INFORMATION THAT'S SORT OF PUTS YOU AT AN UNFAIR DISADVANTAGE TO YOUR COMPETITORS. I GUESS I WANTED TO ASK AND THIS MIGHT BE TOUGH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHICH OF OUR STAFF WAS HERE AT THE TIME.

I BELIEVE IN THE PAST, WE DID SOME TYPE OF FINANCIAL AUDIT OR REVIEW OF THE CONTRACT, JUST MAYBE 2016 OR 17 WHEN AN EXTENSION WAS BEING CONSIDERED. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON I THOUGHT OF IT, AND I WONDERED IF SOMETHING SIMILAR MIGHT BE POSSIBLE. BUT I WASN'T HERE FOR THE EXTENT OF THAT REVIEW, AND I DON'T QUITE KNOW THE FULL EXTENT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT. AND I SUPPOSE THE PRESENCE AND I ARE PROBABLY THE INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY ON THIS ONE. THAT REVIEW WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED TO YOU. IT WAS SPECIFIC TO THIS FRANCHISE. IT'S SORT OF A BOTTOM LINE. LEVEL TO AVOID OR TO RESOLVE WHAT WAS A UNSUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL STRUCTURE IN THE AGREEMENT. AND TYPICALLY THE FINANCIAL REVIEWS OF A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT ARE RELATED TO THE TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN THE HAULER AND THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF REVENUE IS BEING REMITTED, AND THAT THE RATES ARE BEING ACCURATELY CALCULATED. THAT'S SOMETHING. IF THE COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS, THAT WE COULD WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT WE ULTIMATELY RECOMMEND TO DEVELOP AS COMPREHENSIVE AND BROAD A LOOK AT THOSE FINANCIAL AGREEMENTS. AS VALLEY VISTA IS COMFORTABLE WITH, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THAT THESE REVIEWS ARE CONDUCTED INDUSTRY WIDE. OKAY. AND SO I'LL ASK, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH I THINK GETS AT WHAT I'M AFTER, MAYBE LIKE A BOTTOM LINE REVIEW OR JUST HAVING A SENSE THAT THE CONTRACT IS SUSTAINABLE FOR ALL PARTIES WITHOUT KIND OF DIVING INTO PROPRIETARY INFORMATION THAT, YOU KNOW, IS SORT OF UNNECESSARY. WELL, I MEAN, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS DONE HERE, BUT IT'S BEEN DONE IN OTHER CITIES. AND YOU MENTIONED SOMEONE MENTIONED PASADENA AND DIAMOND BAR IS ANOTHER IS THE CONSULTANT WOULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, BOOKS FINANCIALS AND JUST REPORT BACK TO THE CITY THAT THEY FOUND. EVERYTHING IS SOUND. THIS LOOKS GOOD WITHOUT MAKING IT A PUBLIC RECORD. RIGHT. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S THAT THAT THAT ARM'S LENGTH TRANSACTION

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OKAY. SO YEAH, I GUESS MY INITIAL THOUGHT BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION WOULD BE. IT'S GREAT TO GET INFORMATION AND A PERFORMANCE REVIEW. IT SOUNDS LIKE PERHAPS WE COULD, DEPENDING ON THE FIRM THAT'S HIRED, ASK IF THEY'RE ABLE TO COMPARE SOME, COMPARE SOMETHING TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS, OR COMPARE PERFORMANCE TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS. AND IF THEY SAY YES, PERHAPS THAT COULD BE INCLUDED. BUT IF THEY SAY NO, THEN AND STANDARDS ARE TOO VAGUE OR FLUID, THEN I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'D BE WORTH AT LEAST ASKING. AND THEN, YEAH, I'D ALSO SUGGEST ADDING IN THE SORT OF KIND OF BOTTOM LINE REVIEW YOU'RE DESCRIBING, OR JUST JUST SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE THAT, YEAH, THINGS ARE SUSTAINABLE AND EVERYTHING'S, YOU KNOW, ROSY MOVING FORWARD. IF THAT. DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? IT SOUNDS REASONABLE. YEAH. THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS. BUT YES, IT DOES SOUND REASONABLE. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER MY ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN I PROPOSE MAKING A MOTION TO PROCEED AS RECOMMENDED WHILE EXPANDING THE SUGGESTED SCOPE OF WORK TO INCLUDE COMPARING THE PERFORMANCE FOR VARIOUS SAFETY, CUSTOMER SERVICE, COLLECTION, PRODUCTIVITY, DIVERSION RATE, AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE BENCHMARKS TO INDUSTRY STANDARD, PLUS A SORT OF BOTTOM LINE FINANCIAL REVIEW THAT GIVES US A SENSE OF THE OVERALL HEALTH FOR BOTH PARTIES OF THE OF THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE CONTRACT.

AND WE CAN PUT THAT OUT FOR PROPOSALS AND SEE WHAT WE GET BACK. OKAY. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION, IF I MAY, JUST REALLY QUICK. WE JUST MENTIONED INDUSTRY STANDARDS, AND MR. PEREZ SAID THAT THEY'RE KIND OF ALL OVER THE BOARD. THERE'S DIFFERENT STANDARDS. SO. IS THAT A VIABLE SITUATION FOR US BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THERE'S SO MANY THINGS TO DRAW FROM. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS NECESSARILY A I MEAN, HOW DO WE GET AROUND DEFINING THAT DOWN BASED UPON THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SO MANY STANDARDS OUT THERE? YEAH, I THINK WE JUST RELY ON THE FIRMS TO SAY, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO OR NO, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE INCLUDE AND JUST KIND OF GO FROM THERE. I THINK AT THIS POINT I FIGURED JUST INCLUDE IT AND ASK AND SEE WHAT WE GET. YEAH. AND AS LONG AS YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT. YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T MIND US NARROWING IT DOWN TO JUST ORANGE COUNTY CITIES OR JUST LOCAL LOCAL CITIES WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 25 MILES OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN ULTIMATELY DO WHEN YOU APPROVE THE AGREEMENT. I THINK THE MAYOR HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. THIS IS A VERY SPECIALIZED INDUSTRY. CITIES ARE INVARIABLY REPRESENTED BY SPECIALIZED CONSULTANTS IN THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH THEIR HAULERS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'D NEVER WIN A NEGOTIATION. AND SO MUCH AS THERE MAY NOT BE STANDARDS FOR EVERYTHING, THERE IS ALWAYS KIND OF THE REASONABLE PERSON TEST, YOU KNOW, AN EASY ONE TO SEE IF THERE'S NOT A STANDARD OUT THERE FOR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A VALLEY VISTA TRUCK IN CYPRUS AND WHATEVER'S HAULING TRASH IN LOS ALAMITOS WITH MY NAKED EYE. AND I WOULD JUST ADD, I, I WOULDN'T SUGGEST LIMITING IT GEOGRAPHICALLY BECAUSE ALL THE STANDARDS ARE APPLICABLE STATEWIDE. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE VARIOUS PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT CITIES NEED TO ADDRESS AND THAT WE'VE PASSED ON TO THE WASTE HAULER, WHICH WILL APPLY STATEWIDE. SO YOU PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE A LARGER POOL OF COMPARISONS. CITIES RATHER. OKAY, I BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION IN A SECOND. THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. MY COLLEAGUES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO FORGE FORWARD OR TAKE A BRIEF BREAK MAYBE? ALL RIGHT. I NEED TO RUSH. OKAY. I'M READY. WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS TAKE A BREAK OR NOT. YEAH. OKAY. ITEM ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR, I BELIEVE COUNCIL

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YEAH THAT HELPS A LOT. AND THEN OF COURSE THE SECOND THING THAT'S GOING ON IS THE LANGUAGE THAT ENABLES THE ONE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM OR THE PILOT PROGRAM THAT IS ENABLED BY THE COUNCIL'S ONE YEAR APPROVAL. OF THOSE EIGHT PROJECTS THAT CAN BE ENTERED INTO ADMINISTRATIVELY.

AND I WILL ADD, THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE REQUIREMENT FOR BIDDING. IT JUST I IDENTIFIES THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY. IT'S EITHER THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS STAFF OR THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT ALL OF THE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS WOULD STILL APPLY. SO I HAVE. OH, SO COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, YOU'RE UP AND THEN MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. NICK AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION

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I DID A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LOOK AND I LOOKED FOR 21, 22, 23, 24. I DIDN'T GET TO 25, AND I LOOKED AT WHAT I CONSIDER ROUTINE ITEMS BASED ON KIND OF YOUR LIST. AND I SAID, HERE ARE THE ROUTINE ITEMS. WHAT WERE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS RELATED TO THAT? ZERO. OKAY, SO THE ROUTINE ITEMS HONESTLY NEVER HIT ANYBODY'S RADAR. THERE WAS LOTS OF OTHER STUFF. DON'T GET ME WRONG, THERE WAS A LOT OF OTHER COMMENTS, BUT IT NEVER REALLY HIT ANYBODY'S RADAR FOR ROUTINE LIKE CONCRETE REPAIRS AND THE RESURFACING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I IT MADE ME FEEL MORE CONFIDENT THAT AS WE LOOKED AT THE PILOT OF SAYING WE'RE NOT STIFLING ANYBODY'S INPUT, NOBODY EVER GAVE INPUT FOR THE LAST FOR FOUR YEARS. OKAY. BUT AS WELL AS WE SAID, IT'S A PILOT. SO LET'S LET'S SEE WHAT THE PILOT DOES AND WE'LL DO A DOUBLE CHECK AS THE FUTURE COMES IN. SO THAT WAS MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I SENSE AND UNDERSTAND THE HESITATION THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD ABOUT THIS, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE ARTICLE. AND PEOPLE HAVE APPROACHED ME AND SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT IT. SO I DO RESPECT THE CONCERN THAT THE CITIZENS OF CYPRUS HAVE ON THIS MATTER. BUT LET ME I WANT TO WANT TO KIND OF TRACE THE HISTORY OF THIS A LITTLE BIT. AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BORE EVERYONE AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND BORE EVERYONE NOW, I FIGURE, WHY NOT? IT'S 930. SO EARLIER THIS YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT THIS KIND OF STREAMLINING THE PROCESS. AND INDIVIDUALLY, WHEN I MET WITH EACH OF THE DIRECTORS, I SAID, I WANT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW WE CAN DO THINGS BETTER, DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY, CHANGE THE PROCESS AND SO FORTH. I REMEMBER SAYING TO THE CHIEF, MAYBE WE CAN USE MORE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE OFFICERS MORE EFFECTIVE. I REMEMBER SPEAKING WITH. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU THINK THAT WE CAN GO AND DO TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS OR SOMETHING? AND I REMEMBER BACK WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER WITH JEFF, WE WENT OVER THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE APPROVAL OR THE LEVEL OF BIDS, HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO GO AHEAD, AND IF I THINK IT'S OVER $1,000 OR SOMETHING, THAT YOU HAVE TO GET MULTIPLE BIDS AND WHY IT WAS SET SO LOW BECAUSE IT SEEMED VERY RESTRICTIVE. SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PUSHING AND ASKING FOR FEEDBACK. DURING THIS DRAFT PLAN, WE DISCUSSED A STREAMLINING CERTAIN PROCESSES AND PLANS HERE WITHIN THE CITY. SO ON MAY 12TH, WE WENT AHEAD AND WENT THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION. AND IF YOU GO AND SEE THE PRESENTATION, YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF LAYING THINGS OUT. IT WAS AND WE SAT THERE IN THE WORKSHOP, EVERYTHING FROM THE CIP PROJECT, 100% WERE APPROVED. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT TO THE CURRENT PROCESS TO STREAMLINING OPPORTUNITIES.

WE'RE ONLY DELEGATING CERTAIN STUFF HERE. WE'RE NUMBER THREE. WE'RE GOING TO REPORT ALL ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVED PROJECTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL QUARTERLY. THEN THE PROJECTS WERE ROUTINE.

I THINK I OFFENDED YOU, NICK, BY SAYING THEY'RE PRETTY BORING STUFF. AND YOU SAID, NO, THEY'RE NOT BORING. THEY'RE REALLY IMPORTANT. BUT BUT SO AND I REMEMBER AT THE MAY 12TH MEETING, WE KIND OF HEMMED AND HAWED BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME HESITATION WITH RESPECT TO, HEY, THIS IS DIFFERENT. LET'S GO AND THINK ABOUT IT. AND SO THAT WAS THE SECOND TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT. THE THIRD TIME WAS ONE ON ONE. I WENT TO WISH YOU A HAPPY 40TH BIRTHDAY, AND WE BROUGHT THIS UP AND TALKED ON THE ON THE 14TH. THEN THIS WAS SHARED ON THE 15TH, AN EMAIL, THIS PRESENTATION ONCE AGAIN TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THAT WAS THE FOURTH TIME WE TOUCHED ON IT. THEN ON JUNE 9TH WE DISCUSSED IT IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THINGS QUICKER BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING, COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW LONG IT TOOK. AND I BROUGHT THIS UP AGAIN. MAYBE WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND LOOK AGAIN AT THIS. THEN ON 623, THE SIXTH TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, A SECOND PRESENTATION, AND YOU TOOK OUR FEEDBACK AND YOU DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND LIMIT IT TO EIGHT PRESENTATIONS TO MAKE THIS PILOT PROGRAM MORE ACCESSIBLE AND MORE PALATABLE FOR US. THEN I TALKED ABOUT IT A SEVENTH TIME, JUNE 25TH AT MY OFFICE. HOURS AND PEOPLE CAME,

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THEN WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO LET THEM GO AND WAIT FOR ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO WE'RE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS. IT IS INNOVATIVE AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT I CAN SEE THE HESITATION WE HAD IN MAY 12TH, THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE WALKED OUT OF THERE SAYING WE KIND OF LIKE IT, BUT WE KIND OF DON'T AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE SO AND I'M IN THAT BOAT TOO. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK I APOLOGIZE TO YOU ON JUNE 9TH, BECAUSE WHY WE ASKED YOU TO DO SOMETHING AND THEN WE DISREGARDED YOUR EGGS, AND THEN YOU WENT AND DID WHAT WE ASKED YOU TO DO, AND THEN WE DISREGARDED IT. SO I APOLOGIZE AGAIN ON THAT. SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I KIND OF WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS WAS BECAUSE I CAN SEE WHY THE PAPER REPORTED IT. AS IF, THOUGH WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I CAN SEE THAT. BUT BUT ONCE YOU KIND OF SEE THE PICTURES, SEE THE EMAILS, SEE THE PRESENTATION, I HOPE THAT HELPS TO CALM THE OR CALM THE OR OR BE WILLING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO AND SAY, LET'S TAKE A CHANCE.

LET'S TAKE A CHANCE WITH THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND SEE IF WE CAN CONTINUALLY IMPROVE THE PROCESSES HERE AT CYPRESS. AND I KNOW YOU'RE KIND OF AT THE TIP OF THE SPEAR HERE, NICK TRYING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME, BUT I ALSO ENCOURAGE OTHER DIRECTORS TO GO AHEAD AND LET'S SEE, LIKE, HEY, LET'S SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN DO IT. BECAUSE IF WE IMPROVE PROCESSES A LITTLE BIT HERE AND A LITTLE BIT THERE, THEN BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, ALL IT TAKES IS A FEW WEEKS HERE AND A FEW WEEKS THERE AND THINGS GO A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER. THAT IS ALL. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. SO A FEW THOUGHTS I WANTED TO SHARE ON THIS ONE. AND I THINK WHEN THE INITIAL STRATEGIC PLAN GOAL WAS PUT FORTH, RIGHT, EVERYBODY WAS ON BOARD WITH GETTING OPTIONS TO STREAMLINE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. I MEAN, ONE OF THE ISSUES FOR ME KIND OF INITIALLY WAS THE COUNCIL NEVER GOT MULTIPLE OPTIONS. WE GOT JUST ONE OPTION. AND OTHER THINGS THAT I HAD MENTIONED WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AT VARIOUS TIMES. WHAT ABOUT HIRING AN ADDITIONAL ENGINEER? HOW MUCH WOULD THAT SPEED THINGS UP TONIGHT? I JUST TALKED ABOUT GETTING PROCUREMENT, NO BID PRICING FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. HOW MUCH WOULD THAT SPEED THINGS UP? WE JUST HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THOSE THINGS. AND SO TO ME, I AM ON BOARD WITH CERTAINLY TRYING DIFFERENT THINGS TO KIND OF STREAMLINE PROCESSES, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE'VE REALLY HAD ANY SORT OF PRESENTATION ON, OR GIVEN SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO.

AND A COUPLE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE ARE AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG GOT AT THIS TONIGHT, I THINK AND THERE'S SOME JUST SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE PURCHASING LIMITS AND THE CONTRACT AUTHORITY. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAD UPPED THE CITY MANAGER'S KIND OF PURCHASING AUTHORITY LAST YEAR, I THINK, AND NOW IT'S BEING INCREASED AGAIN ON THESE ITEMS. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND I CAN BE CORRECTED IF I'M WRONG WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM, THERE'S NO LIMIT.

THAT IS INCORRECT. THE ONLY LIMIT WOULD BE THE SET BUDGETED AMOUNT, RIGHT? THE BUDGET THAT'S ADOPTED IN THE CIP. AND COINCIDENTALLY, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT'S ON THE PILOT PROGRAM, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE BULLET TRAP IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOOTING RANGE HAS ALREADY GONE OVER BUDGET. I SHOULDN'T SAY IT'S ALREADY GONE OVER BUDGET. THE BIDS HAVE COME IN OVER BUDGET. SO SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE SECOND READING? EVEN IF THAT PROJECT WEREN'T HAPPENING REALLY SOON, THAT ONE'S COMING BACK TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S FINITE THRESHOLD CAP, WHICH I THINK WAS $85,000 AROUND THERE. NICK GAVE ME A ESTIMATE. HAND WAVE HAS ALREADY GONE OVER. SO WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE CIP, WHICH YOU SEE MULTIPLE TIMES AND THERE

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COUNCIL MEMBER PETE AND MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO, THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOLIDIFIED. WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO IT, OR WE CAN TAKE IT AWAY. YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF CORRUPTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT ANGLE YOU'RE GOING FOR HERE, BUT ALL OF THAT WOULD BE CAUGHT IN OUR FINANCIAL AUDITING. I DON'T LIKE I SAID THIS LIKE THE STREET RESURFACING. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR DECADES NOW, AND IT'S AS SIMPLE, YEAH, WE JUST DO IT AGAIN. IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM. I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE HARD PUSHBACK ON THIS. SO THANK YOU. DID YOU WANT TO. SURE. YEAH. IT'S LIKE DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN BECAUSE BECAUSE I REMEMBER ON MAY 12TH WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, MAYBE WE CAN GO BACK TO THE TAPES. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, REALLY, BUT WE, WE DID HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND THERE WAS HESITATION. I REMEMBER IN THAT ROOM WE KIND OF THOUGHT WE LIKED PARTS OF IT. WE KIND OF DIDN'T. I ASSUMED THAT THREE OF US WERE IN FAVOR OF IT. THEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT AGAIN, AND THERE WAS THIS SAME KIND OF CONCERN THAT MAYBE WE'RE GIVING UP TOO MUCH OR NOT ENOUGH OVERSIGHT.

AND SO THERE'S TWO FACTORS THERE. I CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT CONCERN THAT RESIDENTS HAVE ABOUT THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SEE THE AERIAL STREET REHABILITATION OR $2.4 MILLION.

I CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT CONCERN. HOWEVER, THOUGH I'M THINKING LONGER TERM, WHAT TYPE OF CULTURE DO WE WANT TO HAVE HERE AT CYPRESS? DO WE WANT TO HAVE A CULTURE WHERE WE EMPOWER AND ENRICH AND HOPE THAT THE DIRECTORS HAVE A CHANCE TO GO AHEAD AND COME FORTH WITH NEW IDEAS? AND THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENT THAT SAYS, LET'S GO AND TRY IT WITH, I DON'T WANT TO SAY TRAINING WHEELS ON, BUT LET'S TRY IN A VERY LIMITED, LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE IF WE CAN IMPROVE AND DO THINGS BETTER. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE ENVIRONMENT I DEFINITELY WANT TO FOSTER HERE AS A LEADER AND HAVE THE LEADERS LEAD. WHO ARE THE TECHNICAL EXPERTS, REALLY THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AND SAY, HEY, LET'S TRY THIS. AND SO I THINK THE CONCERNS WERE NOTED AND THEY PARED IT DOWN. THEY BEING WE PARED IT DOWN TO EIGHT PROJECTS THAT WE NOW CAN VERY SPECIFICALLY POINT OUR FINGERS AT AND SAY, YEAH, IT ADDS UP TO 6.5 MILLION. SO I CAN SEE WHY. A RESIDENT EARLIER SAID, HEY, IS IT 6.5 MILLION IS A 2.4 MILLION? IT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT. AND SO I THINK AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED AT THE OFFICE HOURS. SO THE LADY SITTING NEXT TO ME SAID IT VERY SUCCINCTLY. SHE SAID IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM. LEO, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE SO BENT OUT OF SHAPE OUT OF IT. IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM. WE'RE NOT.

AND SHE SHE HIT IT ON THE HEAD. AND SO BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS CONCERNS AND I CAN I, I CAN DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHY BEN BACK ON MAY 12TH WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, THERE WAS SO MUCH HESITATION. AND WE'RE SEEING IT AGAIN. AND I THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND THAT. AND WE HAVE TO KIND OF ASK OURSELVES, ARE WE WILLING TO TAKE A CHANCE ON SOMETHING THAT IS SORRY? ONCE AGAIN, NICK, PRETTY BORING STUFF. AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS I'M WILLING TO SAY YES BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TRAINING WHEELS ON. BUT ONCE AGAIN, I'M ONE OUT OF FIVE PEOPLE HERE.

YEAH, I THINK MY QUESTION, I GUESS, WOULD BE WHY? WHY CAN'T WE PUT SOME BETTER DEFINED

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WHAT OBJECTIVE CRITERIA ARE WE USING? I JUST I HAVE NO IDEA. AND SO I GUESS I DON'T I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TRYING SOMETHING TO STREAMLINE PROJECTS, BUT I DON'T SEE WHAT THE RUSH WAS AND THAT WE JUST KIND OF JUMPED INTO POTENTIALLY MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACTS BEING SIGNED WITHOUT COMING TO THE COUNCIL. AND WE FIND OUT ABOUT IT A FEW MONTHS LATER. LIKE, IS THAT REALLY WHERE WE NEEDED TO GO RIGHT OFF THE BAT? I MEAN, IF IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM, WHY NOT START WITH SMALLER PROJECTS AND SOME MONETARY LIMIT? I MEAN, IT WOULD STILL APPLY TO A NUMBER OF THEM.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY THINKING. I JUST I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T TAKE TIME TO BETTER DEFINE THE PARAMETERS OF THIS. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG. FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM, I WOULD PROBABLY STILL VOTE NO AFTER THE PILOT PROGRAM WAS DONE, EVEN IF IT DID SAVE TIME AND MONEY. FOR ME, IT COMES DOWN FUNDAMENTALLY TO THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WILL GET ONE LESS OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW WHAT GOES ON IN THE CITY, AND FOR ME, THAT'S JUST ALWAYS GOING TO BE A NO FOR ME. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, I GUESS I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE ITEM, A MOTION THAT THE ITEM NUMBER FOR THE SECOND READING, AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE UPDATING THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO AMEND PURCHASING AUTHORITY LIMITS AND TO ALSO MOTION FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO CONDUCT THE SECOND READING AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE BY TITLE ONLY.

AMENDING MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 21, A AUTHORIZING CHANGES IN PURCHASING AUTHORITY LIMITS.

SECOND. I'LL. SECOND. THAT MOTION CARRIES WITH THREE YES VOTES AND TWO NO VOTES BY MAYOR

[14. Discuss Promoting Volunteer Opportunities in Cypress Agendized by: David Burke, Mayor Recommendation: Discuss promoting volunteer opportunities in Cypress.]

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WE HAVE A NUMBER OF WAYS TO VOLUNTEER, WHETHER IT BE OVER AT THE SENIOR CENTER OR OUR YOUTH SPORTS COACHES. A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY. WE'VE ALSO FOUND, AND I TALKED WITH SOME OF OUR NONPROFIT GROUPS, AND THEY UTILIZE RESOURCES SUCH AS VOLUNTEERMATCH.ORG, JUST SEARCH ORG AND VOLUNTEER NETWORK ORG TO KIND OF GET THEIR VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. SO THEY'RE ALREADY KIND OF UTILIZING SOME OF THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT THERE. AND TYPICALLY THEY SAY THAT WHEN THEY FIND VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE SEEKING OUT OPPORTUNITIES, THEY ARE MORE INTERESTED AND MORE ENGAGED. WHEN THEY DO COME INTO THEIR ORGANIZATIONS. SO OVERALL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR US, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE. IN THE PAST, IT DIDN'T TYPICALLY PAN OUT WHEN WE OFFERED THAT INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT OUR VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALREADY USING CERTAIN TYPES OF TECHNOLOGY IN DIFFERENT WEBSITES TO GET THEIR INFORMATION OUT THERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. I THINK THE MAIN THING I WAS HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH WAS JUST REDUCING WHAT THEY CALL, I GUESS, RIGHT. THE FRICTION OF GETTING INVOLVED IN SOMETHING. AND SO MY IDEA WAS WHEN SOMEONE DOESN'T GET SELECTED AS A COMMISSIONER, I JUST LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HAND THEM A PIECE OF PAPER AND SAY, HERE ARE THE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES, OR DIRECT THEM TO ONE WEB PAGE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE AND SAY HERE THE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES. OR WE COULD HAND OUT FLIERS LIKE THAT AT A MEET YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER BOOTH. SO DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A HEAVY LIFT TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOGETHER? OR HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE? FOR STAFF? IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SCOPE OF THIS IS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. NUMBER ONE, IT WOULD BE TALKING WITH EACH NONPROFIT GROUP TO SEE IF, EVEN IF THEY WOULD WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS. SO THAT WOULD BE A BIG THING FOR US ALSO TO THE VETTING PROCESS, THE NONPROFIT GROUPS THAT CURRENTLY GO THROUGH THE NONPROFIT GRANT REQUEST, IT IS A PRETTY STRENUOUS VETTING PROCESS. WE REQUIRE FINANCIAL INFORMATION, INSURANCE, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS. SO THAT ALONE, IF WE'RE ACCEPTING NEW GROUPS AND GOING THROUGH THAT VETTING PROCESS, IT WOULD BE A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT FOR STAFF.

ALSO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS, IF WE DO LIST ORGANIZATIONS UP ON THE WEBSITE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE IMPLICITLY ENDORSING THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE A VETTING PROCESS IN PLACE, AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD WOULD COME FROM COUNCIL. OKAY. IF I MAY ADD TO THAT, BECAUSE IT TOUCHES UPON AN ISSUE THAT I WANT TO RAISE TO THE EXTENT, YOU KNOW, AND MR. DRAPER TALKED ABOUT SOME PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE THAT OUTREACH TO THE EXTENT, AS A PUBLIC AGENCY, YOU OPEN THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO PLACE THE INFORMATION ON YOUR WEBSITE.

YOU ARE OPENING UP A PUBLIC FORUM FROM A FIRST AMENDMENT STANDPOINT, AND THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON HOW YOU CAN EXCLUDE OR LIMIT THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR PURPOSE AND THEIR GOALS AND MISSION. SO IT'S SOMEWHAT TRICKY UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY TARGETING, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, PUBLIC RECREATION SERVICES, VOLUNTEER AND FOLKS INTERESTED IN HELPING THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT, THAT'S DIFFERENT. BUT ONCE YOU INVITE ONE NONPROFIT, IT IT'S HARD TO LIMIT IT TO NON-RELIGIOUS, NONPARTIZAN AND WHATEVER OTHER GUARDRAILS THE COUNCIL MAY WANT BECAUSE OF FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES. I SEE. AND SO HOW IS IT

[02:35:03]

YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH SCOTT. I DO WORRY ABOUT THE LIABILITY TO THIS TO OUR CITY. IF IT'S A THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATION OR WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SAME KIND OF RULES THAT WE DO WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND I, I'M THINKING THAT ONE WAY THAT WE MIGHT JUST ONE IDEA IS WE JUST MIGHT LIMIT IT TO THE NON-PROFITS THAT WE'VE ALREADY VETTED, THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH OUR PROCESS TO GET EVERY TWO YEARS TO GET MONEY FROM US AND JUST LIMIT IT TO THAT, TO THOSE GROUPS AND SEE WHAT KIND OF VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES THEY HAVE AVAILABLE. I DO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE FRED SAID, WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, NON-RELIGIOUS NONPARTIZAN LIKE TRYING TO LIMIT IT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE FILTER OUT EXTREMISTS, YOU KNOW, OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES? AND I DON'T KNOW IF

[02:40:05]

YEAH, KIND OF CAPITALIZING ON WHAT KYLE JUST SAID IS I'M SO LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF THE NONPROFITS IS WOMEN'S CLUB, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS. OKAY. SO WE WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO BE ON THE LIST. HOWEVER, OKAY. IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED IN KNOWING MORE ABOUT THE WOMEN'S CLUB AND JOINING A CLUB, THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN DO SOME THINGS AND EVERYTHING, BY ALL MEANS PUT A NUMBER OUT THERE TO CONTACT US, RIGHT? BUT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A VOLUNTEER, BUT IT WOULD BE GET MORE INVOLVED IN YOUR COMMUNITY. OKAY. AND I COULD SEE HOW SEVERAL OF THE NON-PROFITS WE SUPPORT COULD OFFER EXACTLY THAT, RIGHT? OF MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A SPECIAL EVENTS THEY DO OR THEY TO PUT BREAKFAST ON FOR PEOPLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE NONPROFITS, IF WE HAD A LIST OF ALL THE NONPROFITS, BUT IT'D BE MIGHT BE HARD TO KEEP THEM UP TO DATE AND JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. AND BY ALL THE, YOU KNOW, CONTACT THEM IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN IN GETTING MORE INVOLVED IN THE CITY, IT MAY NOT, LIKE I SAID, MAY NOT BE VOLUNTEER, BUT IT MAY BE GET INVOLVED, GET TO KNOW MORE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN SEE HOW BY DOING THAT YOU CAN GET MORE INVOLVED. SO JUST A THOUGHT. YEAH. AND SO YEAH. AND I'M YEAH I THINK I'D BE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD WORK HERE. RIGHT. BECAUSE I'M HEARING ORGANIZATIONS SAY WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING VOLUNTEERS. AND I'M HEARING COMMISSIONER APPLICANTS SAY I DIDN'T GET ON THE COMMISSION, BUT I'D LOVE TO GET MORE INVOLVED. RIGHT. SO WHAT DO WE TELL THEM MORE THAN JUST KIND OF GOOGLE IT? LIKE, ARE YOU SUGGESTING A LIST OF THE VETTED GROUPS OR DIRECTING THEM TO, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL THEM. I JUST WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO TELL THEM AND SAY, HERE'S A NUMBER OF GROUPS. FIND ONE YOU LIKE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S VERY COMMENDABLE. AND WE.

ALL, WHEN WE WERE IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, I THINK KYLE WILL REMEMBER THIS AS WELL, IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE TALKED JUST IN GENERAL ABOUT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ONLY GOT SO MANY PLACES THAT WE COULD FILL SO MANY SPOTS THAT WE CAN FILL, BUT THAT WE LOVE THEIR ENTHUSIASM AND INITIATIVE FOR WANTING TO VOLUNTEER. AND. AND THROW THEIR HAT IN THE RING ON THIS. EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY TO THROW THEIR HAT IN THE RING ON THIS. AND I THINK THAT EITHER IN GENERAL OR IN THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN INDIVIDUALLY TALK TO GROUPS OR WHATEVER AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO VOLUNTEER, YOU KNOW, WE SUGGEST THAT YOU ASK THEM, WHAT ARE YOU INTERESTED IN DOING? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S REALLY KEY IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. WHAT ARE YOUR INTERESTS? WHAT ARE YOUR HOBBIES? AND MAYBE DIRECT THEM TO VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD BEST SUIT THAT NICHE THAT THEY THAT THEY'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT. SO ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I WE HAVE A CLEAR SENSE OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, BUT I'D LIKE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER IT'S A VOLUNTEER, WHETHER IT'S A VOLUNTEER FAIR WHERE ORGANIZATIONS CAN COME OR WHETHER IT'S SOME SORT OF LIST BASED ON ALREADY VETTED GROUPS, WE'RE ALREADY AT A LONG NIGHT.

AND SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO LAND THIS PLANE. SO I'LL JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA REALLY QUICKLY. DAVID, YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT, LIKE MAYBE AT THE, AT THE SENIOR RESOURCE FAIR, MAYBE WE CAN ADD A TABLE OR TWO OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. JUST A

[15. Discuss Oral Communications During City Council Meetings Agendized by: David Burke, Mayor Recommendation: Discuss Oral Communications during City Council meetings.]

ALL RIGHT. OUR CURRENT METHOD IS COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS IN PERSON OR VIRTUAL IS THREE MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF A MEETING. GENERAL COMMENTS ARE IN PERSON ONLY THREE MINUTES AT THE END OF A MEETING. I TALKED TO A LOT OF ELECTEDS IN OTHER CITIES. I'VE LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER CITIES DO AND STUDIED VARIOUS PUBLIC COMMENT STRUCTURES, AND WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS SOMETHING I'VE

[02:45:06]

I'VE HAD RESIDENTS WHO WANTED TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT SHOW UP TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I SEE ONE OF THEM RIGHT NOW AND THEY WAIT THREE FOUR HOURS TO TELL US THAT THERE'S SOMETHING RELATED TO CHICKENS IN THEIR YARD OR WHATEVER. THE SHOWMAN'S ABOUT TO TELL US. IT WOULD JUST I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF RESIDENTS KNEW, HEY, I GOT A GENERAL COMMENT. I CAN SHOW UP AT 6 P.M. AND SHORTLY AFTER I'LL GET TO MAKE MY COMMENT. ANOTHER BENEFIT IS THE COUNCIL WOULD HEAR COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS WHEN THE ITEMS ARE DISCUSSED. I SOMETIMES AGAIN WE MIGHT GET A COMMENT ON AN AGENDA ITEM. THREE HOURS AGO AND NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING IT. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT MAKES SENSE TO CONTEMPORANEOUSLY DISCUSS THE AGENDA ITEM AND LET THE PUBLIC DISCUSS IT. AND THEN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS ALL THE INPUT THEY JUST RECEIVED. RESIDENTS WOULD ALSO HEAR THE INITIAL REPORT OR PRESENTATION BEFORE COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH COULD CLEAR UP, YOU KNOW, MISCONCEPTIONS OR ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT RESIDENTS MIGHT HAVE, OR ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THEY'RE PLANNING TO MAKE. IF YOU GET THE PRESENTATION FIRST, AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO COMMENT ON WHAT YOU'VE JUST SEEN OR HEARD, AND THEN RESIDENTS CAN COMMENT IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY FOR BOTH GENERAL AND AGENDA ITEMS. THAT'S JUST MAKING IT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO RESIDENTS. I KNOW I USED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WHEN I WAS A BEFORE I WAS ELECTED. ONCE I DID IT ON WHEN I WAS ON VACATION FROM MY CAR. IT'S JUST IT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET RESIDENTS INVOLVED WHO CAN'T MAKE IT TO A MEETING FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS, RIGHT? YOU GOT TO TAKE CARE OF YOUNG KIDS. YOU'RE INJURED, YOU'RE SICK. YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO COME IN PERSON. WHATEVER. SO THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S THE PROPOSAL I'M PUTTING FORWARD. AND I'LL OPEN IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION. I GUESS I'LL JUMP IN ON THIS. SO I THINK IF YOU RECALL, I INITIATED THIS ITEM BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS MARCH.

AND AT THAT TIME, DUE TO THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, WE TALKED ABOUT, THE MAJORITY AGREED TO ADD THIS, SPECIFIC THIS TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. HOWEVER, I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN MEETING WENT WAY LATE AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO TOUCH ON THIS.

SO SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, DAVID, I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME SO WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSED IT AND COLLABORATED ON IT TOGETHER. I DO LIKE SOME OF THE BENEFITS YOU SPEAK ABOUT. I JUST FEEL WE'RE NOT REALLY FOLLOWING PROCESS HERE THE WAY WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME IN 2021, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE STAFF CONDUCTED A LOT OF RESEARCH, AND THEN THEY PRESENTED IT TO THE COUNCIL FOR US TO REVIEW AND THEN WHICH ALLOWED US TO REVIEW IT AND GIVE INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON IT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE ON THIS PROJECT BY BEING AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND ALLOW THEM TO ENGAGE AND GET THEIR INPUT ON HOW WE CAN BETTER SERVE OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY OVERALL. BY WAY OF EXAMPLE. THE CITY MANAGER INFORMED US THAT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND AS MUCH AS I. AS MUCH AS SOMETIMES I DON'T LIKE THE WAY LONG BEACH DOES THINGS BASED ON ACTUAL EXPERIENCE, THEY ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A SURVEY OF QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THESE QUESTIONS ARE REALLY VALID. AND CITY MANAGER, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'D BE PUT IT UP ON THE THIS UP ON THE CITY WEBSITE, OR IF WE WOULD JUST WAIT UNTIL A FUTURE DATE. BUT IT REALLY THIS THIS SURVEY REALLY BRINGS INTO FOCUS. WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO

[02:50:04]

AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S WORKED OUT WELL. AND I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS WORD WOULD, TOO. SO AS YOU SAID, WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK IF IT TURNS INTO A ZOO OR RESIDENTS ARE CONFUSED OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, BUT JUST TO END THE PAIN OF RESIDENTS HAVING TO WAIT FOR HOURS TO GIVE A COMMENT. GENERAL COMMENT. I'D LOVE TO GIVE THIS FORMAT A SHOT. SO I'LL I WAS GOING TO MOVE THE ITEM, BUT COUNCILMEMBER CHIANG, I REALLY QUICKLY JUST TO ADDRESS THE ZOO COMMENT. MAYBE WE HAVE A HARD LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES WHERE WE JUST CUT THEM OFF AFTER THREE MINUTES, INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM THAT EXTRA MINUTE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO PROCEED IN A TIMELY MANNER AFTER THREE MINUTES IS UP. OKAY, A COUPLE COMMENTS FROM THIS END OF THE DAIS, I THINK. GO AHEAD. OKAY, SO JUST ONE PROCEDURAL POINT IS THAT YOUR MUNICIPAL CODE PROVIDES FOR THE PROCESS THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE. SO IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGE, WE COULD COME BACK WITH A REVISION TO THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THAT DIRECTION. THAT MAKES SENSE.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. PETE. YEAH, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AND I'LL ASK IT OF ALICIA. OKAY. WHO WOULD HAVE TO MANAGE THIS? RIGHT, IF WE WERE TO MAKE A CHANGE OF DOING WHAT WE DO AT

[02:55:03]

IS ALICIA IN THE CITY CLERK? IS IT IS IT GOING TO CREATE A LOT MORE WORK FOR HER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? AND BUT I BUT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING. I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M ASKING. SO TO, TO DO. WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED, PROPOSED. YEAH, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE PROPOSED, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN YOUR WORLD? IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CHECKING THE HAND RAISED, YOU KNOW, CHECKING THE LIST OF ATTENDEES TO SEE WHO'S HANDS WOULD BE RAISED.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S MAYOR BURKE OR IN THE FUTURE OR FUTURE, MAYORS WOULD JUST NEED TO ALSO BE COGNIZANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ONCE WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH THE PEOPLE WHOSE HANDS ARE RAISED, YOU KNOW, MUCH LIKE WE HAVE IN OUR MEETINGS HERE, PEOPLE ARE CONTINUOUSLY COMING UP WITH CARDS. YOU KNOW, THERE'D HAVE TO BE SOME TYPE OF SET LIMIT, LIKE, OKAY, NO MORE HANDS RAISED AFTER THIS POINT. OTHERWISE THEN WE START TO SAY, OKAY, WELL ARE THEY ARE THEY RAISING THEIR HANDS FOR THE NEXT ONE? ARE THEY RAISING THEIR HANDS FOR SO THAT THAT WOULD IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE MORE WORK FOR ME.

IT WOULD JUST BE MORE CONTROLLING WHEN HANDS GO UP, WHEN WE SAY, OKAY, NO MORE HANDS AT THIS POINT OR AND IT JUST IT WOULD JUST BE MOSTLY THAT I DON'T. BUT AS FAR AS LIKE JUST BE LOOKING AT THE LIST MORE TIMES DURING THE NIGHT THAN WE CURRENTLY DO. THAT'S IT. YEAH.

AND YOUR YOUR CURRENT PROCEDURE FOR A VIRTUAL COMMENTER IS THAT THEIR HAND HAS TO BE RAISED ONLINE BEFORE THE END OF THE FIRST IN-PERSON SPEAKER. THAT'S THE DEADLINE, SO TO SPEAK, THAT THE COUNCIL SET SO THAT ALICIA WOULD HAVE A FIXED UNIVERSE OF TINY LITTLE HANDS WAVING AT HER ON HER COMPUTER SCREEN. CAN YOU CONTROL THAT? OTHER THAN YOU ONLY HAVE FIVE PEOPLE? IT'S EASY, BUT IF YOU HAVE 15 PEOPLE, CAN YOU CONTROL THAT? WELL, I CAN JUST SEE WHO'S ON. THERE'S NO WAY OF DISALLOWING PEOPLE FROM RAISING THEIR HANDS OUTSIDE OF THAT. OKAY. I JUST I THINK IF THERE'S 50 PEOPLE ON THE ON THE MEETING RIGHT, THEN POTENTIALLY NO, BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE ALL 50 ATTENDEES AT ONCE. I'D HAVE TO SCROLL THROUGH. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME. YEAH. AND WE'D PROBABLY DRIVE TOWARDS A DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTION IF, IF THAT BECAME THE COUNCIL'S APPROACH AND I SUPPOSE TWO OTHER COMMENTS, WE CERTAINLY SAW THIS IN THE AGENDA CHANGES THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2016 AND THEN 2021 AND 2023 IS THE COMMUNITY ■TAKES A LITTLE TIME, AS DO WE ADMINISTERING THE MEETING TO ADJUST. SO IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE CHANGES, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU FIGURE THEM ALL OUT AND MAKE THEM ALL AT ONCE ON A SORT OF A DATE CERTAIN RIGHT. COME BACK IN IN 2026 OR IT HAPPENS COMING OUT OF SUMMER BREAK SO THAT THE COMMUNITY SORT OF AWARE THERE ARE CHANGES. WE DID A DIFFERENT AGENDA FORMAT FOR A WHILE IN 2023, HIGHLIGHTING HOW THE AGENDA HAD CHANGED FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THROUGH THAT WAY. AND THEN AND THIS RELATES BACK TO OUR OLD PROCESS AS WELL AS INDUSTRY STANDARD. IF THAT FIRST PERIOD OF COMMUNICATION IS OPEN FROM A TOPIC PERSPECTIVE, IT IS COMMON. IF NOT ACROSS THE BOARD, THAT THERE ARE EITHER A FIXED NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, A FIXED AMOUNT OF TIME, OR A DECREASING LIMIT ON HOW LONG FOLKS HAVE TO SPEAK. BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK. BECAUSE WHILE YOU'RE THE POINT THE MAYOR MADE, YOU'RE TRYING TO BALANCE, HEY, YOU CAN COME TO THE COUNCIL MEETING AT ROUGHLY VERY MUCH MORE ACCURATELY THAN YOU HAVE NOW THIS PERIOD OF TIME. AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHATEVER YOUR ISSUE IS. AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE OTHER FOLKS ATTENDING THE MEETING TO DO BUSINESS. YOU WANT TO TRY TO PROVIDE SOME DEGREE OF CERTAINTY FOR THEM TO THAT. IF I COME TO A MEETING THAT STARTS AT 6:00, ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, THE INVOCATION, THE FLAG SALUTE, THE PRESENTATIONS, YOU KNOW THAT ALL BE DONE IN ABOUT AN HOUR AND THEY'LL GET TO MEET ABOUT SEVEN. THAT'S THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCALE. I THINK THAT YOU WANT TO BALANCE, WHICH IS WHY, YOU KNOW, IN 2023, WE WENT OUT AND DID THAT EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND SPENT MONTHS KIND OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO LAND THE PLANE. AND SCOTT, TO THE QUESTION YOU STARTED TO ASK EARLIER, IF THE COUNCIL GAVE US DIRECTION TO DO A SURVEY ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT LONG BEACH DID YOU KNOW? WE DO IT ONLINE USING TECHNOLOGY LIKE THEY DID. I THINK THAT ONE'S MICROSOFT TEAMS, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PLATFORMS THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE FOR THAT KIND OF DATA GATHERING. IT'D BE A PRETTY BIG UNDERTAKING THOUGH. YEAH, BECAUSE I'M I GUESS I'D HAVE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IF I UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSED IS WE FLIPPING EVERYTHING AROUND THAT THE GENERAL COMMENTS ARE GOING TO GO FIRST AND THEN SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE FOR THE

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IS THAT WHAT IS THAT WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS? YEAH. THAT'S HOW A LOT OF CITIES DO IT BECAUSE THEY WANT THE AGENDA. COMMENTS. WHEN THE AGENDA ITEMS BEING DISCUSSED. SO WITH WITH JUST I'M SORRY WITH REGARDS TO THE SECOND BULLET ITEM UNDER PROPOSED METHOD COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS IN PERSON OR VIRTUAL THREE MINUTES PER ITEM. SO IS THAT TO SAY THAT SOMEBODY CAN COME IN AND SPEAK THREE MINUTES ON SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR OR THE CONSENT CALENDAR COUNTS AS ONE ITEM AS A WHOLE. SO SOMEONE COULD NOT SPEAK ON MULTIPLE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. SO BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE THE ITEM AS PROPOSED, DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO RETURN WITH AN ORDINANCE SO WE CAN HAVE A SECOND READING AT OUR AUGUST 25TH MEETING. AND THEN FIRST READING FOR OUR AUGUST 25TH MEETING, AND THEN ULTIMATE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD, I GUESS, LIKELY BE LATE SEPTEMBER. SO YOU'D HAVE YOUR SECOND READING, THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, AND YOU'D BE EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER THAT. SO YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER. OKAY, SO THAT'S MY SUGGESTION TO MOVE FORWARD AND GIVE IT A SHOT AND SEE HOW IT GOES. SO THAT'S MY MOTION I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES. OR AFTER THE FIRST READING IF WE NO. YEAH. YEAH.

YOU'D SORT OF GO BACK AND START OVER I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D ADD THE, THE SECOND BULLET POINT UNDER PROPOSED METHOD, THE ONLY CITY IN THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE NOT RESEARCHED THIS, BUT THE ONLY CITY IN THE COUNTY THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT TAKES THAT APPROACH TO IT IS IRVINE, AND THEY HAVE A DESCENDING TIME LIMIT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO INDICATE THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON A GIVEN ITEM. THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHERS, THOUGH. THE ONE THING THAT BLEW ME AWAY WHEN WE DID THE SURVEY IN 2023 WAS THERE WERE 34 CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY.

THERE WERE 34 DIFFERENT AGENDA FORMATS. THERE WAS NOBODY WHO DID IT THE SAME. AND AT THE TIME, I THINK IT WAS BARELY HALF OR LESS THAN HALF OF THE CITIES LED ANY VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION.

THAT MOTION CARRIES WITH THREE YES VOTES AND TWO NO VOTES BY COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNCIL

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FOLLOWED BY PEARL BOULTER. REALLY QUICK. REALLY QUICK. I'M JUST I'M JOKING. COUNCILMEMBER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AFTER THIS LONG DAY THAT YOU GUYS HAD. MY NAME IS ROBERT WINTER. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN CYPRUS FOR 26 YEARS, SO WE'RE A LONG TIME RESIDENTS. I'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT CYPRUS'S POLICY POSITION REGARDING UNCOORDINATED FEDERAL RAIDS AND APPREHENSIONS THAT ARE OCCURRING IN OUR COMMUNITY. ON JUNE 27TH, THE LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A NEW GUIDANCE, NEW GUIDANCE TO ITS OFFICERS DUE TO THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS ABOUT UNIDENTIFIED FEDERAL AGENTS AND PEOPLE POSING AS THEM. THE NEW POLICY STATED THAT LAPD OFFICERS, RESPONDING TO THE SCENE OF POTENTIAL FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS ARE REQUIRED TO, NUMBER ONE, REQUEST A SUPERVISOR IF ONE IS NOT PRESENT, VERIFY CREDENTIALS OF SUPERVISOR OR FEDERAL AGENT IN CHARGE IF THE AGENTS ARE NOT CLEARLY IDENTIFIABLE. NUMBER THREE CAPTURE THAT VERIFICATION ON BODY WORN CAMERAS TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND I KNOW YOU GUYS LIKE THAT. CYPRUS PD WOULD BE WISE TO ADOPT THIS POLICY, WHICH WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE SAFETY OF ITS OFFICERS AS WELL AS THE SAFETY OF THOSE THEY'RE SWORN TO PROTECT. WE CAN'T IGNORE THIS PROBLEM. WHILE THERE WAS A TIME WHEN FEDERAL AUTHORITIES COORDINATED WITH LOCAL POLICE, WE ARE NOW IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNLEASHING ROVING BANDS OF UNIDENTIFIED PEOPLE WITH FULL MILITARY GEAR AND WEAPONS OF WAR, ABDUCTING PEOPLE BASED ON THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN, ACCENT, OR CHOSEN LINE OF WORK. THIS IS THEIR STATED POLICY. AT THIS POINT, COURTS WILL DECIDE, OF COURSE. SO WE'VE SEEN THIS RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF CYPRUS, AND WE CAN'T PRETEND IT'S NOT GOING ON, SINCE ICE

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HOWEVER, DURING COVID, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS DE CHARTERED DUE TO. I MEAN, HOW CAN YOU DO COMMUNITY SERVICE. UNDERSTOOD. SO DEFINITELY I'M TRYING TO BRING BACK COMMUNITY SERVICE INTO INTO CYPRESS COLLEGE. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTIONS. DOCTOR FRANCIS MARQUEZ FOLLOWED BY KELLY K.

GOOD EVENING. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH MR. WINTER. THANK YOU FOR WAITING FOR HOURS TO GIVE. MAKE YOUR REQUEST. I AM GRATEFUL FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO DO THAT.

I, I HAVE TO SAY, AS A WOMAN OF COLOR, I'M CARRYING MY PASSPORT RIGHT NOW. I'M DRESSED IN A SUIT, BUT IF I HAPPEN TO WALK IN A BOAT AT HOME DEPOT OR, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE CAR WASH, I COULD BE GRABBED. THERE WAS AT THE HEAD OF THE ORANGE COUNTY WOMEN'S LAWYERS ASSOCIATION, WHO LIVES IN NEWPORT BEACH AND RUNS A LAW FIRM, WAS WALKING IN SANTA ANA IN A PARK AND WAS GRABBED FROM BEHIND AND DETAINED. SO I WOULD BE GRATEFUL IF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU WOULD WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR GREAT CHIEF TO, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT I CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL 911 AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE A POLICE OFFICER COME AND HELP, BECAUSE THERE ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN DETAINED AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. AND I HAVEN'T BEEN LEAVING THE HOUSE VERY MUCH. I'LL JUST SHARE A QUICK STORY. I HAVE A COUSIN WHOSE SKIN IS VERY DARK. HE'S TAKING CARE OF MY GODMOTHER, WHO'S GOT DEMENTIA. SHE WANTS TO GO FOR A DRIVE. HE WON'T GO. HE WON'T GO FOR A DRIVE BECAUSE HE'S TOO AFRAID. SO I JUST I WOULD BE GRATEFUL IF YOU WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH THAT REQUEST. I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE TRASH, THE AUDIT OF THE TRASH CONTRACT. I SAID, I'M GOING TO DO THIS REALLY FAST. THE CURRENT SCOPE BROADLY COVERS RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY SECTORS, BUT LACKS SPECIFIC MENTION OF INDUSTRIAL WASTE, CONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION DEBRIS OR PUBLIC REALM. WASTE COLLECTION WILL KEY STATE REGULATIONS ARE LISTED. THE SCOPE DOES NOT EXPLICITLY INCLUDE A REVIEW OF ALL RELEVANT LOCAL WASTE ORDINANCES, HAULER PERMITS OR SAFETY COMPLIANCE. CAL OSHA COMPLIANCE THE FINANCIAL REVIEW IS LIMITED TO RECENT YEARS AND SPECIFIC FEES, OMITTING A BROADER ASSESSMENT OF THE HAULERS OVERALL FINANCIAL HEALTH, CAPITAL INVESTMENTS, OR THE AUDIT AUDITING OF CLAIMED DEDUCTIONS. YOU CAN ASK FOR THE HAULERS. I MEAN, FINANCIALS, YOU CAN'T SUBPOENA THEM. THEIR WORK.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S GOT TO BE TRANSPARENT FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE PAYING FOR THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 32% RATE HIKE, WHICH PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT. AND PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW. BEYOND CUSTOMER SERVICE, WE NEED AN EXPLICIT REVIEW OF THE HAULERS OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES, SUCH AS FLEET MAINTENANCE. IT WAS MENTIONED EMPLOYEE TRAINING OR DISASTER PREPAREDNESS PLANS, AND THEN THE SCOPE DOES NOT ADDRESS WHETHER VALLEY VISTA APPLIES FOR GRANTS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO OFFSET SERVICE COSTS. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR THEM.

AND THEN A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I JUST WANT TO SAY WITH THE MAPLE GROVE SOUTH, YOU KNOW, THE PARK EQUIPMENT, I'M DISAPPOINTED WITH THE VOTE TONIGHT BECAUSE I'VE SAT IN THESE MEETINGS THE LAST THREE MONTHS, AND YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO POSTPONE THINGS FOR A YEAR. YOU KNOW, I GO HOME, I SEE THE SLIDES CRACKED AND, YOU KNOW, DANGEROUS IN MY PARK. PLEASE FINISH YOUR THOUGHT. AND

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THANK YOU. THANKS, KELLY. KAY. HELLO. HELLO HELLO. OH MY GOSH, IT'S SO LATE. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SO LONG. BUT I'M JUST HERE BECAUSE I. OH, BY THE WAY, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR SINCE 2002. I LOVE MY CITY AND I LOVE THE COUNCIL. I AM HERE BECAUSE I AM SO SICK OF THE MANUFACTURED CRISIS CRISES THAT ARE BEING CONSTANTLY PUT UP IN LIKE LOCAL PAPERS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. SO I DID A LITTLE BIT OF DIGGING, AND I FOUND OUT THAT IN A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER WHO JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE HERE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO ONE OF HER FORMER COLLEAGUES AT UCLA BACK IN 2021. AND ESSENTIALLY, AND I'M GOING TO QUOTE THE EMAIL JUST FOR RECORDS PURPOSES, SHE SAID. OR HE SAID, QUOTE, SHE'S LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO SPEAK AT COUNCIL NEXT MONDAY ON VOTE DILUTION AND CURRENT STATE SLASH FEDERAL STANDARDS FOR LITIGATION. SHE'S HOPING TO COW THEM INTO DISTRICTS. AND THIS IS A FORMAL A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER WHO GETS UP HERE, SHE GRANDSTAND'S VIRTUE SIGNALS, ATTACKS. YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, ACCORDING TO THE EMAIL, SHE ATTACKS THE WHITES, THE WHITE ELECTED AND THAT AGAIN, NOT MY WORDS. THESE ARE THIS IS WHAT HE SAID. A FORMER COLLEAGUE AT UCLA, GARY, SAID IN THIS EMAIL. AND AGAIN, I'M JUST SICK OF IT. I IT'S SO EXHAUSTING. SHE ALSO ATTACKED, YOU KNOW, FRED AND PETER I DON'T. AND SCOTT IT JUST NEEDS TO STOP. SO I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ALL RESIDENTS. WE SUPPORT YOU GUYS. I DON'T THINK THINGS NEED TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR TEN HOURS. I LIKE THE PROCESS. IT'S VERY BORING. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS DO IT, SO I COMMEND YOU. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOWARD, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, STREAMLINING THINGS WE DON'T NEED TO BE DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, EVERY LITTLE DETAIL ALL THE TIME. IT'S LIKE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE WE HAVE SO MANY DIRECTORS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY RUN THE CITY AND THEY I FEEL LIKE THEY RUN IT REALLY WELL. IT'S WHY I'M STILL HERE, YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WORKING SO HARD AND JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY MAINTAINING LIKE, A VERY CORE, SOLID CITY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CLEAN AND FULL OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY, REALLY, TRULY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL

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ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S SEE IF I CAN DO THIS. I ATTENDED THE CYPRESS CHAMBER MIXER. I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEEK. IT'S A GREAT EVENT. IT WAS HELD AT EL CERRITO AND GREAT PARTICIPATION. AND I CAN'T THANK THE CHAMBER ENOUGH FOR PUTTING THESE TYPES OF EVENTS ON. THEY ARE REALLY JUST A GREAT WAY TO FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS TO REALLY PROMOTE THEIR THEIR BUSINESSES AND GET THEIR WORD OUT. I ATTENDED THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND ALSO MY OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETINGS. I HAD THE DISTINCT HONOR TO ATTEND THE CYPRESS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ACADEMY GRADUATION, WHICH I'M SURE IN THE FUTURE, CHIEF, YOU'LL PARADE THEM UP TO THE PODIUM SO THEY CAN TALK TO US AND TELL THEM HOW HAPPY THEY ARE TO BE HERE. YES, THEY'LL BE HERE AFTER THEY GET OUT OF TRAINING.

OKAY. PERFECT. YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF KEY, RIGHT? BUT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH ALL OF THEM. AND THEY ARE JUST A BUNCH OF TOP NOTCH RECRUITS OR CADETS, IF YOU WILL, THAT CALL THEM ROOKIES WHO WHO ARE TRULY PASSIONATE ABOUT NOT ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO SAVE THE CITY AND THE WORLD FROM HARM, BUT THEIR THEIR HEART IS REALLY, TRULY WITHIN THIS CITY AND WISH THEM ALL THE SUCCESS. AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN THEY COME UP TO THE PODIUM. I, ALONG WITH ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE, FOR THE MOST PART, WE ALL ATTENDED THE SALUTE

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AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAVE NEVER FELT SO MUCH LOVE FROM FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. AND A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO THE CYPRESS WOMEN'S CLUB, WHO HAVE SOME OF THEIR MEMBERS HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AND HAVE GONE AND GOT ME COUGH DROPS OR OFFERED TO BRING ME SOUP OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS.

IT JUST. IT'S TRULY AMAZING TO FEEL THE LOVE OF THIS COMMUNITY IN SUPPORTING ME THROUGH THIS.

HOPEFULLY, ACCORDING TO MY DOCTOR, MAYBE ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND I'LL BE DONE WITH IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO GOD RIGHT NOW, SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT TO THAT. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. GOD BLESS. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE. ALL RIGHT. SOME DUPLICATES. SO CYPRESS CHAMBER MIXER OUTSTANDING. ATTENDED THE ALTASCIENCES VISIT WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM. THERE ARE BUSINESS OVER HERE IN CYPRESS. I WAS FASCINATED BY WHAT THEY DO. THEY DO STUDIES ON MEDICATIONS, DIFFERENT STUDIES AT DIFFERENT LEVELS. OZEMPIC IS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE RECOGNIZE AND BUT WE GOT TO SEE STUDIES IN PROCESS, PEOPLE BEING TESTED. IT WAS IT WAS TRULY AN OUTSTANDING VISIT. SO KUDOS TO DOCTOR DAVE TO HELP US OUT THERE. SALUTE TO AMERICA. SAME THING. I PARTICIPATED IN AN EAGLE SCOUT INTERVIEW TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THEN I TOO WENT TO THE TENU CYPRESS GIRLS SOFTBALL. THEY'RE GOING TO THE REGIONALS IN SAN DIEGO JULY 18TH THROUGH 20. AND SO THEY HAD A FUNDRAISER AND SOME FUN GAMES THAT THEY PLAYED ON FRIDAY NIGHT. SO I PARTICIPATED OR NOT PARTICIPATED. I SAT IN THE BLEACHERS AND WATCHED THE GAME. I'LL JUST SAY IT THAT WAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG. THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. I. MY FAVORITE PART OF AMERICA IS WHEN THE GENERATOR CUT OUT AND I. YOU KNOW, I COULD DEFINITELY HEAR YOU GUYS SINGING. SO. SO, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE CITY GETS US SOME VOICE LESSONS, AND THEN WE'LL BE PREPARED NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO, THANK YOU. A FEW THINGS I WENT TO CYPRESS SCHOOL DISTRICT. ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT TIM'S RETIREMENT CEREMONY ON JULY 11TH ALSO ATTENDED JUNE 25TH ALTA SCIENCES. I WAS VERY HUMBLED WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS BEING DONE THERE AND ALSO MET A LITTLE BIT AFTERWARDS, AND THEY HAD REALLY GOOD WORDS TO SAY BECAUSE I ASKED THEM, WHAT ARE THEY THINKING ABOUT AS FAR AS WITH RESPECT TO CYPRESS AND SO FORTH? AND THEY HAD REALLY GOOD WORDS TO SAY ABOUT CYPRESS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW SOMETIMES THAT THERE THEY SAID, WE CALL ON CYPRESS POLICE DEPARTMENTS ON TIME TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THERE WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN TRIALS AND SO FORTH. AND THEY SAID VERY GOOD WORDS ABOUT HOW PROFESSIONALLY YOU DEALT WITH SOME OF THE TOUGH PERSONALITIES THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY ACTUALLY DO A LOT OF WORK WITH RESPECT TO JAPANESE SPEAKERS AND SO FORTH, AND THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT OUR OPENING OF MATSUO, THE NEW MARKETPLACE, AND THEY GAVE REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK TO THE IN GENERAL, OPERATING IN CYPRESS. AND SO THEY HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF LEAVING CYPRESS.

JUNE 26TH WENT TO FULLERTON, STATE OF THE CITY, AND THEN THAT SAME AFTERNOON WENT TO STAUNTON, STATE OF THE CITY. MY NEXT OFFICE HOURS ARE GOING TO BE SUNDAY, THIS SUNDAY AT 6:30 A.M.

AT STARBUCKS, RIGHT AT 5252 KATELLA AVENUE. THAT'S THE ONE NEXT TO COSTCO. AND I APOLOGIZE

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