[ ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS (Three minutes per speaker. The City Council may adjust the time allotted per speaker.) The public may address the City Council on agenda items prior to any action taken. Although Council Members may provide brief responses, the City Council may not engage in a discussion with members of the public during the meeting. Please complete a Speaker's Card to address the City Council in-person. Please follow the instructions at the end of the agenda and wait for the Mayor/City Clerk to call on you to address the City Council virtually. Speakers providing in-person comments will be called first. Members of the public are encouraged to communicate with the City Council via email at adm@cypressca.org or by calling 714-229-6699.]

OKAY, THAT BRINGS US TO OUR FIRST ORAL COMMUNICATIONS PERIOD. THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON AGENDA ITEMS PRIOR TO ANY ACTION TAKEN. ALTHOUGH COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY PROVIDE BRIEF RESPONSES, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DURING THE MEETING. PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER'S CARD WHICH IS BACK AT THE ROOM TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IN PERSON, OR FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA AND WAIT TO BE CALLED ON FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. MEMBERS IN PERSON WILL BE CALLED FIRST, AND WE HAVE BROOKE NAVARETTE, FOLLOWED BY JOHN PETE. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BROOKE NAVARETTE AND I'M A RESIDENT OF CYPRESS. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY PLEASE VOTE YES ON NUMBER THREE SO WE CAN GET SOME CONSISTENCY AND START FOLLOWING ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. AND ALSO, IF THERE'S ANY CONTROVERSIAL MAJOR AGENDA ITEMS, IF WE COULD HOLD OFF UNTIL THE 30 DAY, ASSUMING IT PASSES THE 30 DAYS TILL THOSE THINGS APPEAR ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU. JOHN. PETE. FOLLOWED BY ESTHER POLK. GOOD EVENING. JOHN PETE, LONGTIME RESIDENT. I TOO WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER THREE AND ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER PASSING IT AS WRITTEN SO THAT WE CAN BRING OUR CITY ORDINANCES IN LINE WITH ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER SO THAT A YES, A YES VOTE MEANS YES AND NO VOTE MEANS NO. AND IF A PERSON CHOOSES TO ABSTAIN ON AN ISSUE, THAT'S FINE. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE AN ABSTAIN VOTE SHOULD COUNT AS A YES OR A NO. IT SHOULD JUST BE A NO VOTE SO THAT RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEIR LEADERS ARE TAKING POSITIONS ON IMPORTANT ISSUES AND VOTING EITHER YES OR NO, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY STAND ON THE ISSUE. SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO PASS THAT, AND I TOO WOULD ASK TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, LET'S TRY NOT TO HAVE MAJOR ITEMS VOTED ON UNTIL THIS IS IN EFFECT, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW THAT YES AND YES MEANS YES AND NO MEANS NO. ON THE KEY ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. THANK YOU. ESTHER. FOLLOWED BY BOB YOUNGSMA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ESTHER POLK AND I'M A CYPRESS

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RESIDENT FOR 18 YEARS. I AM HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, IN ALIGNMENT WITH ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, AND TO RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT THE USE OF ABSTENTIONS IN VOTING IN RECENT COUNCIL MEETINGS. WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOOSE NOT TO TAKE A POSITION ON AN ISSUE, IT LEAVES THE PUBLIC FEELING FRUSTRATED AND UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF OUR CITY, A LACK OF CLARITY IN VOTING PROCEDURES MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR RESIDENTS, INCLUDING MYSELF, TO FULLY TRUST THAT POLICIES TO BE PASSED OR NOT TO BE PASSED ARE BEING DECIDED RESPONSIBLY AND WITHOUT DELAYS. EVERY VOTE CARRIES WEIGHT, AND WHEN AN ELECTED CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ABSTAINS WITHOUT A VALID REASON, IT RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS. ARE THEY FULLY ENGAGED IN THE RESPONSIBILITY THEY WERE ELECTED TO UPHOLD? ARE THEY HIDING AND HOLDING BACK FOR THEIR OWN CONFLICT OF INTEREST? ARE THEY ABUSING THE ABSTENTION RIGHTS REPEATEDLY AND EXCESSIVELY? I WOULD LIKE TO URGE OUR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER CAREFULLY AGAIN TONIGHT HOW ABSTENTIONS ARE BEING HANDLED, AND ENSURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE MATTER OF FAIR AND TRANSPARENT VOTING PROCESS. CYPRUS RESIDENTS DESERVE CLARITY AND CONFIDENCE IN THE CHOICES BEING MADE ON THEIR BEHALF. THANK YOU. BOB YOUNGSMA. WELL, THANK YOU. I'M BOB YOUNGSMA, RESIDENT OF CYPRUS. ONE I WAS GOING TO BRING UP IS YOUR AWARDING A CONTRACT TO SOMEBODY? BUT I THINK TRANSPARENCY MEANS THAT YOUR PAPERWORK SHOULD BE VERY OBVIOUS AND SHOWING ALL THREE VOTES AND NOT JUST ONE. I MEAN ALL THREE BIDS, NOT JUST ONE. IT JUST MAKES IT MORE OBVIOUS TO PEOPLE. SO YOU'RE REALLY DOING YOUR JOB. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE HUNTING. EVERYTHING DOWN SHOULD BE RIGHT HERE INSTEAD OF ONE. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THREE NOW BECAUSE I WASN'T GOING TO. BUT YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S FIGHTING OVER THREE. BUT EVERYBODY KNEW ALL ALONG THAT IF YOU ABSTAIN IT MEANT, YES, IT ALWAYS HAS. I MEAN, I'VE COME HERE FOR MANY YEARS NOW AND IT ALWAYS MEANT YES, BUT BECAUSE OF A VOTE FAILING THE WAY THEY HOPED IT TO BE, THEY'RE NOW TRYING TO REVERSE IT. I THINK WE'RE WASTING TIME ON IT. I MEAN, IF YOU KNOW IT. I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM ABSTAINING, THEN THAT MEANS THE PEOPLE NEED TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABSTAINING. THEY ALREADY KNEW IT WAS. YES. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. AND NUMBER 12, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT TO SAY I'M VERY HAPPY WITH NOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET YOUR, YOUR TRANSFERS AND YOUR WARRANTS AND YOUR REGISTERS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER, BECAUSE IT SURE LOOKS SUSPICIOUS THAT YOU TOOK THREE MONTHS TO DO ONE. YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE DOING IT IN A MONTH, BUT YOU SHOULD BE EVERY MONTH. IT SHOULD BE DONE, SHOULD BE ON THIS DOCUMENT EVERY MONTH. SO I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS FOR AT LEAST GETTING THAT DONE IN A MONTH. I HOPE I NEVER SEE IT IN ANOTHER THREE MONTHS. THAT'S JUST OUT OF LINE AND IT'S POOR MANAGEMENT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS OR IN-PERSON SPEAKERS FOR AGENDA ITEMS? BETH. YOU'RE UP. WHY DO YOU WANT TO FIDDLE WITH THE RULES OF ROBERT'S OF ORDER? THEY'RE FINE AS THEY ARE. IF SOMEBODY IS NOT IS ABSENT, NOBODY CAN VOTE IN THEIR PLACE, NOT EVEN AN ALTERNATE IN ANY GOVERNMENT. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S CONGRESS. I DON'T CARE WHERE IT IS. NOBODY CAN VOTE IN THEIR PLACE OR ASSUME THEY MEAN YES WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE. AND BEING ABSTAINING FOR A VOTE IS NOT ONLY PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION, IT IS REQUIRED IN CASES, AND IT HAS BEEN SINCE 1776. IT'S A FINE TO DO THIS. IT'S NOTHING TO BE REALLY DISCUSSED. IT'S IN THE RULES AND THAT'S IT. UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE FOR WANTING IT CHANGE. YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU WANT TO SKIRT AROUND SOMETHING, AND I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE. I DON'T DO FACEBOOK OR SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT I HAVE READ THE SPURIOUS AND POSSIBLY LIBELOUS REMARKS TO THE ABOUT THE PATRIOT CITIZENS OF CYPRUS. THESE REMARKS DO NOT DEFINE US, BUT THEY SURE SAY A LOT ABOUT THE AUTHORS OF THESE REMARKS. PLEASE GUARD YOUR TONE.

OKAY, MADAM CITY CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY HANDS RAISED ONLINE? YES, MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE HAND

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RAISED ONLINE BY JOSE TRINIDAD CASTANEDA. JOSE, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YOU'RE FREE TO COMMENT. MR. MAYOR, I SHOWED THAT JOSE IS SELF MUTED. JOSE, IF YOU'RE MY APOLOGIES CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW.

YES WE CAN. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JOSE TRINIDAD CASTANEDA. TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO PULL ITEM TEN, BUT I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM TEN. SO HERE WE GO. SO THE CITY OF CYPRESS CURRENTLY RELIES ON GO TO WEBINAR AS ITS VIRTUAL MEETING PLATFORM. UNFORTUNATELY THIS PLATFORM IS EXTREMELY OUTDATED. IT'S EMBARRASSING AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO USE. IT LACKS THE BASIC FUNCTIONALITY THAT THE PUBLIC REASONABLY EXPECTS WHEN PARTICIPATING IN GOVERNMENT MEETINGS. ACCORDING TO TODAY'S STANDARDS. IN CONTRAST, PLATFORMS LIKE ZOOM, MICROSOFT TEAMS OR GOOGLE MEET ARE FAR MORE ACCESSIBLE, WIDELY ADOPTED AND USER FRIENDLY. THIS IS NOT A MINOR ISSUE. IT SPEAKS TO THE CITY'S BROADER APPROACH TO DIGITAL ENGAGEMENT AND ACCESSIBILITY. USING CLUNKY, OBSOLETE SYSTEMS LIKE GO TO WEBINAR RAISED SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOUNDNESS OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, PARTICULARLY AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY. MASTER PLAN COUNCIL HAS A CLEAR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT OF STAFF PERFORMANCE AND ENSURE THAT THE CITY IS EMBRACING MODERN, EFFECTIVE AND INCLUSIVE TOOLS TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC. TO YOUR CREDIT, THERE'S BEEN SOME MINOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE IN RECENT MONTHS, AND THAT SHOULD CONTINUE. HOWEVER, THE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM CATALOG REQUIRED BY SB 272 HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2017. THAT'S AN EIGHT YEAR GAP. SOMEONE IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB, AND THE CATALOG SHOULD ALSO REFLECT UPDATES TO MAJOR SOFTWARE PLATFORMS LIKE TRANSITIONING TO ZOOM. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS A POTENTIAL ITEM FOR THE TECHNOLOGY MASTER PLAN OF ITEM TEN. BECAUSE THE CITY SERVING RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN THE 21ST CENTURY MUST EXPECT AND PROVIDE DIGITAL COMPETENCY THAT MEETS TODAY'S NEEDS. CONTINUING TO USE OUTDATED SOFTWARE ONLY ALIENATES THE PUBLIC AND UNDERMINES TRANSPARENCY. IN ADDITION, IT COULD ALSO BRING GREATER LIABILITIES TO THE CITY. SHOULD ANYONE OPEN UP A MALWARE OR SPAM EMAIL THAT ALLOWS ACCESS INTO THE CITY'S INTERNAL SERVER, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE THE CITY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, SUCH AS OTHER CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY? IN CLOSING, PLEASE PULL ITEM TEN AND DIRECT STAFF TO EXPLORE A TRANSITION TO A MORE MODERN, ACCESSIBLE VIRTUAL MEETING PLATFORM. IN ADDITION TO UPDATING AND UPGRADING MANY OTHER SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE TYPE OF PRODUCTS THAT THE CITY USES, YOU CANNOT BE LEFT BEHIND. IT'S VERY CLEAR CYPRUS IS SO FAR BEHIND. IT'S LIKE YOU'RE IT'S LIKE YOU'RE RUNNING OFF OF WINDOWS 97. IT'S EMBARRASSING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MADAM CITY CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED ONLINE? NO, MR. MAYOR. THAT BRINGS US TO THE

[ CONSENT CALENDAR All matters listed on the Consent Calendar are to be approved with one motion unless a Council Member requests separate action on a specific item. Council Members voting no or abstaining on a Consent Calendar item may do so without removing the item from the Consent Calendar.]

CONSENT CALENDAR. ALL MASTER, ALL MATTERS LISTED ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE TO BE APPROVED WITH ONE MOTION. UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS SEPARATE ACTION ON A SPECIFIC ITEM. COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTING NO OR ABSTAINING ON A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM MAY DO SO WITHOUT REMOVING THE ITEM FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. DRAINING. MY COLLEAGUES WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT OR PULL ANY ITEM. YES, I HAVE JUST A QUICK COMMENT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12. THE WARRANT REGISTER INCLUDES ELECTRONIC FUND TRANSFER NUMBER 17073. IN THE AMOUNT OF $341.78 AS REIMBURSEMENT FOR MEDICAL COVERAGE I'M ENTITLED TO RECEIVE AS A CALPERS ANNUITANT IN VOTING FOR ANY MOTION TO APPROVE THE WARRANT REGISTER. I AM NOT VOTING ON ELECTRONIC FUND TRANSFER 17073 FOR THE REASON I'VE JUST DISCLOSED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT VIRTUAL SPEAKERS COMMENT, I'M HAPPY TO. I'M CURIOUS TO LOOK INTO THIS GO TO WEBINAR SOFTWARE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THERE MIGHT BE. I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THAT, BUT I DON'T INTEND TO PULL THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM TO DO THAT. IT'S SOMETHING I WILL POTENTIALLY LOOK INTO BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED IN CYPRUS HAVING A VERY FUNCTIONAL WEBSITE AND OPTIONS FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE

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PUBLIC TO EASILY PARTICIPATE IN MEETINGS. IF NO ONE WILL PULL ANY ITEMS, THEN I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH 12. I'LL SECOND. THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

[13. Discussion on the Fiscal Year 2025-26 Proposed Budget and Capital Improvement Program Prepared by: Matt Burton, Director of Finance and Administrative Services Recommendation: Receive direction from the City Council on changes to the FY 2025-26 Proposed Budget and Capital Improvement Program scheduled for adoption on June 9, 2025.]

OKAY. NEXT UP IS NEW BUSINESS DISCUSSION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2526, PROPOSED BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. MR. BURTON, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM YOU OR. I KNOW I HAD AGENDIZED THIS, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN STORE IF ANYTHING. YES, MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR BOTH MYSELF AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO GO OVER. OKAY.

PLEASE DO. ALL RIGHT. JUST THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526, STARTED THIS PAST JANUARY, INVOLVES THE ACTIVE PARTICIPATION OF ALL DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. EARLIER THIS MONTH, WE RELEASED THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, AS WELL AS THE SEVEN YEAR CIP. AND WE HAD A WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS BOTH. THE BUDGET DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY MAJOR CHANGES FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, AND IT INCORPORATES THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CIP. AT THE WORKSHOP FROM TWO WEEKS AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL DID NOT REQUEST ANY CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET AT THAT TIME, BUT AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED TO BE ADDED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA IN ADVANCE OF THE ADOPTION SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 9TH. SO TONIGHT, I'M JUST GOING TO PRESENT A KIND OF HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY AT THE WORKSHOP, AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE DIRECTION ON ANY POTENTIAL CHANGES. SO, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS OF CREATING THE CITY'S BUDGET, YOU KNOW, BALANCES AVAILABLE RESOURCES, INCORPORATE STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, AND ANY CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION GIVEN THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR. SO WHEN WE HOLD THE MID-YEAR BUDGET DISCUSSION OR PRESENT THAT IN FEBRUARY, AS WELL AS THE DISCUSSION WE HAVE EACH MARCH ON RESERVES AND FISCAL STRATEGIES, AS WELL AS OUR PENSION LIABILITIES, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE DIRECTION FOR THE PREPARATION OF THE UPCOMING BUDGET. AS ALWAYS, OUR FOCUS IS ON THE GENERAL FUND, SINCE THAT'S WHERE ABOUT 90% OF THE CITY'S OPERATIONS ARE RECORDED, AND THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR IS LARGELY A STATUS QUO BUDGET. THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO STAFFING LEVEL, EXCUSE ME, AND THERE ARE NO NEW PROGRAMS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT GENERAL FUND REVENUES, WE'RE UP TO $43 MILLION FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. AND YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE MAJORITY, TWO THIRDS BASICALLY OF THE BUDGET IS PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX. OVERALL, THE GROWTH OVER THE PRIOR YEAR IS ABOUT 2.4%, AND THAT EQUATES TO JUST OVER $1 MILLION. PROPERTY TAX IS GROWING AND HAS GROWN PRETTY HEALTHILY I GUESS, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. BUT SALES TAX IS DOWN AND WE DO HAVE SOME SALES TAX CONCERNS THAT THE GROWTH IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH INFLATION. FLIPPING OVER TO THE EXPENDITURE SIDE OF THINGS, WE CAN SEE OPERATIONS ABOUT $41.3 MILLION, WHICH IS A 3.5% INCREASE OVER FISCAL YEAR 2425. AND THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THESE EXPENDITURES ARE COMPRISED OF PERSONNEL COSTS, WHICH ARE ROUGHLY TWO THIRDS OF THE BUDGET. AND THOSE GROW AT ABOUT 2.5% FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. SO WHILE THE BUDGET IS BALANCED, THERE IS A DEFICIT IN THE GENERAL FUND OF $600,000, WHICH RESULTS FROM THE CITY'S ONGOING COMMITMENT TO PAY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS USING GENERAL FUND RESOURCES. THE RESULTING DEFICIT USES ABOUT 300,000 OF ONE TIME MONEY SET ASIDE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, AS WELL AS $260,000 OF AVAILABLE RESERVES USED TO BRIDGE SHORT TERM SHORTFALLS IN THE BUDGET. TRANSITIONING TO THE PARK

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DISTRICT. WE SEE THAT THEIR BUDGET IS ALSO BALANCED AND IT CONTINUES TO INVEST IN CAPITAL PROJECTS AND USES ABOUT $1.5 MILLION OF ACCUMULATED RESERVES FOR CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THE UPCOMING YEAR. THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES, I'M GOING TO TURN OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR NICK MENGELE SO HE CAN DISCUSS THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. THANK YOU MATT. SO THE SLIDE YOU SEE ABOVE YOU IS THE PROJECT MAP FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. FISCAL YEAR 2526 CIP PROJECTS. THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS ARE THOSE AREAS THAT WILL BE RECEIVING A RESIDENTIAL STREET RESURFACING, AND THAT INCLUDES PORTIONS OF VALLEY VIEW, FOLDER WALKER, AND THEN THE TRACKS BOUNDED BY ORANGE, CERRITOS, BLOOMFIELD AND DENNY, AS WELL AS LINK AND THE TRACT BOUNDED BY LINCOLN, ORANGE, DENNY AND MOODY AS WELL. WE ALSO HAVE CONCRETE REPLACEMENTS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS, SEWER EVALUATIONS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS, AND SOME PARK PROJECTS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ON THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WE'LL BE GOING OVER THE PROJECTS AS THEY ARE CATEGORIZED BY TYPE. SO WE HAVE 22 PROJECTS PLANNED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR TOTALING 37 MILLION.

FIRST UP, WE HAVE ABOUT 4.3 MILLION PLANNED FOR OUR STREETS, FOR ARTERIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, ABOUT 600,000 FOR OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROJECTS, WHICH INCLUDES 500,000 FOR OUR ACCESSIBLE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS. THESE ARE THE HEAD PUSH BUTTONS AT THE INTERSECTIONS THAT PROVIDE VIBRO TACTILE FEEDBACK TO THE VISUALLY IMPAIRED. AND WE ALSO HAVE 27 MILLION PLANNED FOR MIRROR PUMP STATION, ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN DESIGN, WITH DESIGN WRAPPING UP THIS YEAR, HOPING TO GO OUT TO BID LATER THIS FISCAL YEAR. FOR OUR SEWER PROJECTS. WE HAVE $900,000 BUDGETED THAT IS TO COMPLETE AN UPDATE TO OUR SEWER MASTER PLAN. THE EXISTING MASTER PLAN IS CLOSE TO 20 YEARS OLD, IS OUTDATED, AND NEEDS TO GET UPDATED BASED ON CURRENT WATER USE AND CURRENT LAND USAGES. AND THEN FOR OUR PARKWAYS, WE HAVE A QUARTER THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION FOR OUR CONCRETE REHAB LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE PARKWAYS AND IRRIGATION UPGRADES ALONG THOSE PARKWAYS AS WELL.

FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES, WE HAVE 1.5 MILLION BUDGETED. THAT INCLUDES $700,000 FOR HVAC UPGRADES AT CITY HALL, 500,000 TO REPLACE THE VEHICLE LIFTS AT THE MAINTENANCE YARD, AND ALSO EV EV CHARGING STATIONS, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PD SHOOTING RANGE AND SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS AT THE CIVIC CENTER. SWITCHING OVER TO OUR PARKS PROJECTS, WE HAVE ABOUT $1.6 MILLION BUDGETED. THAT INCLUDES $200,000 FOR DESIGN OF THE SYCAMORE PARK EXPANSION, $300,000 FOR PARKING LOT SEAL COATS AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER, $125,000 FOR THE PICNIC SHADE STRUCTURE REPLACEMENTS AND $75,000 FOR THE SENIOR CENTER BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES THE GREASE INTERCEPTOR. AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER TO MATT. THANK YOU. NICK.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO RECEIVE DIRECTION ON ANY POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND IF ANY CHANGES ARE IDENTIFIED OR INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR COUNCIL MEMBER, IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A MOTION AND HAVE THE FULL CITY COUNCIL VOTE ON THE SPECIFIC CHANGE. THIS WILL ENSURE THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE THESE CHANGES INTO THE BUDGET DOCUMENT PRESENTED ON JUNE 9TH FOR ADOPTION, AND JUST A FEW REMINDERS ON A FEW CONSIDERATIONS. WE ALWAYS FACTOR IN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET DECISIONS THAT ARE LISTED HERE. THE FIRST ONE IS LIMITING OPERATIONS TO CHANGES DEEMED ESSENTIAL AND THAT THEY HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE BOTTOM LINE. ALSO, ANY CIP CHANGES HAVE TO CONSIDER THE ABILITY FOR STAFF TO DELIVER THE PROJECT WITHIN THE UPCOMING 12 MONTH PERIOD, WHICH MEANS THAT IF ONE PROJECT IS CONSIDERED PRIORITY OVER ANOTHER EXISTING PROJECT, THAT ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TO GO.

AND THE LAST ONE'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TOO, AND THAT IN SOME INSTANCES WE NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS, ANALYSIS TO REALLY ENSURE THAT WE KNOW BOTH THE SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH NEW ITEMS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET. AND

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WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE QUESTIONS BASED ON THE PRESENTATIONS. ONE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK IS YOU HAVE THIS LINE. ADDITIONS TO THE CIP MUST IDENTIFY A FUNDING SOURCE AND THE PROJECT TO BE ELIMINATED OR DEFERRED. I DON'T RECALL THIS IN PAST CIP DISCUSSIONS. HAS THIS ALWAYS BEEN A SORT OF REQUIREMENT OR IS THIS A STATE LAW? WHAT'S THE BASIS FOR THIS? NO, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. IT'S A PRACTICE. IT'S NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RESOURCES PROVIDED BY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ENGINEERING SPECIFICALLY TO GET THESE PROJECTS DONE, YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES STAFFING WISE. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU FOR SPENDING THE TIME TO GO AHEAD AND BRIEF US. I KNOW I TOOK UP A LOT OF YOUR TIME, BOTH DIRECTORS AND UNDERSTANDING THE SEVEN YEAR PLAN, SEVEN YEAR CIP AND THE BUDGET IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS. SO I WANT TO APPRECIATE THANK YOU FOR THAT. WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE HAD THE WORKSHOP.

WE TALKED ABOUT A PILOT PROGRAM FOR STREAMLINING CAPITAL PROJECTS. I KNOW IT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT AND HOW WE MANAGE THE PAPERWORK AND GET THINGS DONE. AND I KNOW I ASKED DIRECTORS TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS, AND I KNOW NICK CAME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD IDEA OF HOW TO GO AHEAD AND PUT TOGETHER A PILOT PROGRAM TO STREAMLINE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND IT SEEMED LIKE WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING ON, I THINK IT WAS MAY 12TH, I WANT TO SAY BACK IN THE WORKSHOP THAT THERE SEEMED TO BE GENERAL SUPPORT FOR IT. AND I KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED POSSIBLY DOING A PILOT PROGRAM, TRYING IT OUT FOR A FEW MONTHS OR EVEN A YEAR, AND THEN RE ASSESSING WHETHER OR NOT IT IS SUCCESSFUL IN GOING AHEAD AND HOPEFULLY GETTING THINGS APPROVED A LITTLE BIT QUICKER, AND THEREBY FREEING UP RESOURCES ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE AND THE PLANNING SIDE IN ORDER TO DEVOTE TO OTHER RESOURCES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT AND ALSO SEE IF WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR THE JUNE 9TH MEETING TO VOTE ON IT. I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY.

THAT'S THE PROCESS ON HOW WE DO THAT. BUT. YEAH, SO MY RECOLLECTION OF THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, I SUPPOSE. I KNOW THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR HAD PRESENTED AN OPTION FOR PURPORTEDLY STREAMLINING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS, BUT MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG WERE OPPOSED TO THAT, AND I DON'T REMEMBER A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL EXPRESSING THEIR DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. SO PERHAPS MY RECOLLECTIONS INCORRECT. AND WE CAN, OF COURSE, BRING IT FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION PUBLICLY, IF YOU'D LIKE. I'M JUST A LITTLE. YEAH, I'M JUST A LITTLE SURPRISED BY THAT DIRECTION. GO AHEAD. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE SEEMED NOT TO TAKE A DEFINITIVE VOTE, AND WE ARE STILL PROCESSING IT. SINCE THEN. I SAT DOWN AND WENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND REVIEWED IT, BUT PERHAPS THERE WAS. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THE SENTIMENT IN THE ROOM ON THAT WORKSHOP. I THOUGHT THERE WERE THREE PEOPLE IN SUPPORT. WELL, IT'S IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DISCUSS AT JUNE 9TH, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. IS THAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO.

YEAH, I GUESS WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO AGENDIZE IT. IF YOU JUST WANT TO DISCUSS IT, WE CAN YOU CAN BRING IT UP THEN. DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? I KNOW THIS REQUIRES A SOMEWHAT OF A CHANGE ON THE WAY OF DOING PROCESSES. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK HOW SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT? IF THERE IS CONSENSUS DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING, OR IF YOU MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE TO DIRECT US TO DO IT, WE CAN BRING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT NICK WALKED THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH ON MAY 12TH FORWARD AS PART OF THE CIP AT THE JUNE 9TH MEETING, OR IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE THAT PRESENTATION AGAIN AND HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, THAT CAN HAPPEN THEN AS WELL, ENTIRELY UP TO THE COUNCIL. MY RECOLLECTION FROM THE WORKSHOP TRACKS WITH THE

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MAYORS, BUT THE REASON FOR THOSE WORKSHOPS IS TO GET THE CITY COUNCIL THINKING ABOUT IDEAS, AND YOU CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE DIFFERENT DIRECTION AS YOU'VE HAD MORE TIME TO CONSIDER AN ITEM. SO I SUPPOSE YOU KNOW YOU CAN BRING IT UP IN JUNE IF YOU LIKE, OR WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO YEAH, LET'S BRING IT UP IN JUNE 9TH AND TAKE A VOTE AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM OR NOT. UNLESS COUNCILMEMBERS FEEL DIFFERENTLY. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. YEAH, I AGREE, I WHAT I, I'M AGREEING WITH THE MAYOR AND OUR CITY MANAGER IN TERMS OF WHAT THE OUTPUT WAS. AND WHAT WE AGREED TO IS TO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. HOWEVER, I'D LIKE YOUR THOUGHT, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED THAT WAY. IS POSSIBLY DOING A PILOT OF SOME VARIETY. I'D LIKE THAT.

OKAY, MAYBE WITH SOME. I THINK THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THE PARAMETERS MIGHT BE, BUT MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE BROUGHT UP IN THE NEXT MEETING IS TO TALK ABOUT A PILOT AND WHAT SOME OF THE PARAMETERS MIGHT BE, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF MAYBE STREAMLINE THE PROCESS. SO I DON'T THINK WHAT WE HAD BEFORE WAS GOING TO GO FORWARD. AT LEAST I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A MAJORITY. BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG. SO MAYBE A PILOT MIGHT, MIGHT KIND OF HELP AND WE CAN KIND OF MANAGE IT ACCORDINGLY. SO I'LL SUPPORT IF, IF, IF THE MAYOR PRO TEM WANTS TO GO THAT DIRECTION.

COUNCILMEMBER MINIKUS, THANK YOU. MY ONLY CONCERN BE AND I DON'T MIND DOING A PILOT PROGRAM, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW IF WE DO DECIDE TO GO THAT ROUTE, WHAT'S THE IMPACT GOING TO BE ON ON PUBLIC WORKS, ON FINANCE AND SO FORTH. SO IF YOU COULD I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IF WELL, WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE KNOW. WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT MAYBE HAVE THAT JUST IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN I SUGGEST THIS MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SUGGESTION, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU URGE CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION AVAILABLE. THAT'S MAYBE THE SAME ONE THAT THEY GAVE IN THE WORKSHOP. OR IF YOU'RE CONTENT TO KIND OF LET IT REST, THEN YOU CAN CHOOSE THAT AS WELL. BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IT, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD IN THE WORKSHOP AND THEN MAKE SURE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS PRESENT AS WELL. YEAH, THAT THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. I, I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT THE DIRECTORS NOW AND KIND OF SEEING I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE PRESENTATION YOU GAVE AND JUST SAYING ALSO EMPHASIZING THAT A PILOT PROGRAM WILL TRY IT FOR A YEAR. BUT YOUR THOUGHTS, DIRECTORS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUT TOGETHER FOR JUNE 9TH. WE CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION AVAILABLE. AND ALSO ALONG WITH THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PROJECT LIST FOR THE UPCOMING YEARS PROJECT WITH A TABLE THAT WOULD SHOW WHAT PROJECTS WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY DELEGATED. I THINK BASED ON THAT LIST, CITY COUNCIL CAN THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION TO SEE IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT LIST, IF YOU HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THAT LIST, OR IF THERE'S ANY PROJECTS THAT OF OUR, OF OUR OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO THAT YOU WANT TO SEE COME BACK TO YOU AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON THAT. OKAY. AND, AND ON THE FINANCE SIDE, IS THERE ANY, ANY ANY FURTHER COMMENT OR. NO. THE IMPACTS TO FINANCE ARE NOT REALLY CONSIDERED AT THIS JUNCTURE. I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD POTENTIALLY REQUIRE UPDATES TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE DEPENDING UPON EXACTLY WHAT IS DECIDED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY SO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? I REALLY JUST HAVE A QUESTION AND I, I DID I SAW IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION. SO WE HAVE BARALDI PARK IN 2526 A PORTION OF IT. RIGHT. WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT FOR YOU. IS THAT A COMMUNITY OUTREACH OR WHAT? WHAT IS SPECIFICALLY IS ON THE BARALDI. ISN'T THAT IN YOUR NUMBER SOMEWHERE? SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO CATCH YOU OFF GUARD. I JUST SAW IT ON. DID I NOT SEE THAT? YEAH. YES. HERE'S ONE. IS FOR THE DESIGN AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH. OKAY. SO BASED ON THAT, OUTREACH WILL PREPARE THE DESIGN. OKAY. WITH CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULED FOR YEAR TWO. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I'LL GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO OFFER THOUGHTS OR SUGGESTIONS OR ADDITIONS. I DID HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS I WANTED TO ASK FIRST. SO THE MYRA PUMP STATION PROJECT IS OBVIOUSLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE PROJECT WE'VE GOT, AND I THINK IT'S INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. I THINK THREE YEARS AGO, THE ESTIMATE WAS 19.5 MILLION AND NOW IT'S 27.5. SO FIRST, I BELIEVE WE WERE GOING TO GET OPTIONS OR AN OPTION FOR BOTH

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PHASING THE PROJECT OR ONLY DOING A PORTION OF IT TO POTENTIALLY SAVE COSTS. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO ONE OF COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS IS FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER WITH SOME DESIGN OPTIONS. OUR DESIGNER IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT PHASING OPTIONS AND SEEING HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE PROJECT. BUT THERE ARE POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO REDUCE COSTS. ONE OF THEM IS REDUCING THE STORM DRAIN BOX, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY REDUCE UP TO $7 MILLION FROM THE PROJECT. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BRING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FULLY BRIEF US ON THE, I GUESS, THE IMPACT OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. LIKE I BELIEVE WE SPOKE ON THE PHONE AND FORGET THE MEASURE YOU USED. WAS IT CUBIC? SOMETHING OF WATER PER HOUR OR MINUTE? BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN LIKE THIS OPTION GETS YOU THIS. THIS OPTION GETS YOU THAT KIND OF THING. CORRECT. THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WILL PROVIDE THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF FLOOD PROTECTION AND THE IMPACTS TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR OR THE HOMES IN THAT TRACT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME. FUNDS BUDGETED FOR. I THINK IT WAS LANDSCAPE OR NO, NOT THIS YEAR. SO FOR NEXT YEAR WE'VE GOT LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG FRONTAGE ROADS AND THIS YEAR WE'VE GOT AN EVERY YEAR SUBSEQUENT WE'VE GOT IRRIGATION, IRRIGATION UPGRADES. I KNOW THAT A COUPLE RESIDENTS HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT THE NORTH SECTION OF CRESCENT AVENUE, WHICH IS LARGELY BARREN WEST OF SUMNER AND HAS SOME CHALLENGES, I THINK, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE IRRIGATION THERE. ARE THERE ANY EXISTING PLANS TO FILL THAT IN WITH TREES OR ADD ANY ADD IRRIGATION AS PART OF THIS YEAR'S CIP, THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE PLANS IN THIS YEAR'S CIP FOR THAT. THERE IS ONE SMALL PORTION OF CRESCENT WHERE WE WILL HAVE SOME TREES PLANTED AS PART OF THIS CURRENT YEAR. FISCAL YEAR 2425 TREE PLANTING PROJECT. BUT BESIDES THAT, THERE ARE NO OTHER IRRIGATION UPGRADES PLANNED FOR THAT AREA. OKAY. AND WOULD THAT WOULD THAT FALL UNDER AN IRRIGATION UPGRADE OR A LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENT ALONG FRONTAGE ROAD UPGRADE? IF WE WERE TO TRY AND ADDRESS THAT, THE IRRIGATION UPGRADES ARE ONLY FOR AREAS THAT HAVE EXISTING IRRIGATION ALONG CRESCENT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IRRIGATION, AND FOR THE FRONTAGE ROADS, WE ALREADY HAVE TWO PROJECTS PLANNED IN THE SEVEN YEAR CIP.

THAT'S FOR THE FRONTAGE ROADS ALONG CERRITOS AND NOT. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER FRONTAGE ROAD ALONG NOT JUST SOUTH OF CERRITOS. OKAY. AND SO IS THERE A WAY TO EITHER ADD IN DOING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO IRRIGATION ALONG CRESCENT EITHER THIS YEAR OR AS PART OF THE NEXT YEAR'S LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS? IT COULD BE A FUTURE PROJECT, BUT I WOULD WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE IRRIGATION, SO WE SHOULD TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK CITYWIDE TO INVENTORY EVERYTHING AND SEE WHAT AREAS TAKE PRIORITY OVER OTHERS. OKAY. IS THERE ANY EXISTING PLAN TO DO THAT? NOT AT THIS TIME, NO. OKAY. AND THEN SO WHAT IS IN FISCAL YEAR 2728? WE'VE GOT THE 300,000 BUDGETED FOR THE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.

DOES THAT ARE THOSE LOCATIONS ALREADY SORT OF PLANNED OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT LOCATIONS BEFORE THEN AND THEN KIND OF DEPLOY THE $300,000. THAT ONE IS ALREADY PLANNED. THAT'S THE FRONTAGE ROAD ALONG CERRITOS, THE SOUTH SIDE OF CERRITOS, JUST WEST OF KNOTT AVENUE. AND THEN IN YEAR FOUR, I BELIEVE THAT'S ON NOT JUST SOUTH OF CERRITOS AVENUE.

OKAY. SO THEN LET ME ASK IT IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN HELP ME OUT. PERHAPS. I THINK I DON'T WANT TO WAIT FIVE YEARS TO TAKE A LOOK AT ADDING IRRIGATION THERE OR ADDING GREENERY THERE. SO WHAT'S A WAY THAT WE COULD SPEED THAT UP TO MAKE SURE IT'S GETTING LOOKED AT, IF NOT THIS YEAR, WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR? I THINK I CAN HELP WITH THAT. TO NICK'S POINT, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PARKWAYS ON ARTERIALS AND FRONTAGE ROADS. SO IT'S SORT OF A THAT'S NOT REALLY AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. IF THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN ADDING IRRIGATION TO PARKWAYS IN ANY LOCATION IN THE CITY OR THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THAT WOULD TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION AND BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE THE AREAS THAT ARE IN MOST NEED OF IT, AND PROBABLY THE ONES THAT WOULD BE MOST COST EFFICIENT TO DO IT. THAT'D BE A STRATEGIC

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PLAN LEVEL OBJECTIVE. IF THE COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE TARGETING ONE AREA, THEN I THINK YOUR YOUR DECISION BECOMES, DO YOU WANT TO DO JUST A LANDSCAPE INSTALLATION THAT WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO MANUALLY WATER, WHICH IS HOW WE HANDLE A LOT OF OUR PARKWAY TREES NOW? OR DO YOU WANT A BIGGER PROJECT THAT WOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY IRRIGATION? AND THEN WITHIN THAT THOUGHT EXERCISE, RECOGNIZE THAT THE LAST TIME WE WERE IN SEVERE DROUGHT CONDITIONS, THE STATE PROHIBITED WATERING LANDSCAPE IN AREAS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S REALLY A DIFFICULT BALL OF YARN TO UNTANGLE. YEAH. AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE CITYWIDE THING. IT'S A SIMPLER THERE'S A STRIP OF STREET THAT'S BARREN AND BROWN. AND I'D LOVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OPTIONS THERE ARE TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND SO I KNOW I SPOKE WITH NICK EARLIER TODAY AND HE MENTIONED IRRIGATION IS KIND OF THE LONG TERM SOLUTION, BUT THEY ALSO DO THE TREE PLANTING AS WELL. AND SO YEAH, I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THIS? I MEAN, DOES IT NEED TO GO IN THE CIP? CAN IT BE BROUGHT UP JUST THROUGH A WORKSHOP OR PRESENTATION? I JUST IT'S A CONCERN. I'D LOVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. IF WE'RE DOING TREE PLANTING, THAT CAN PROBABLY BE FOLDED INTO THE TREE PLANTING PROGRAM. THAT'S PART OF THE CIP. THAT CAN BE A LOCATION THAT COUNCIL PROVIDES US DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM IN PARKWAYS THAT ARE OTHERWISE BARREN, THE TREES ARE THE MOST ROBUST, MOST SURVIVABLE, LOWEST MAINTENANCE ENHANCEMENT WE CAN MAKE THERE. IN FACT, YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE THAT CONDITION, I THINK, THROUGHOUT THE TOWN WHERE THERE ARE PARKWAYS WHERE THE ONLY LIVING THING IN THEM, BECAUSE THE ADJACENT RESIDENT ISN'T WATERING THEM. AND WE DON'T HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT THERE TO WATER THEM WHERE THERE ARE JUST OUR TREES, WITH THE IRRIGATION BAGS AROUND THEM THAT WE WATER WITH A WATER TRUCK. IT SOUNDS LIKE PUBLIC WORKS IS AWARE OF THE LOCATION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NICK AND I CAN PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON PRIOR TO THE JUNE 9TH MEETING, AND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER PRIORITY LOCATION FOR THE INSTALLATION OF PARKWAY TREES ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO SHARE WITH US, THAT'S REALLY USEFUL INFORMATION. YOU HEAR ME SAY IT ALL THE TIME. WE'RE ONLY 150 SETS OF EYES AND EARS AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM YOU AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS THROUGH YOU ABOUT WHERE WE CAN MAKE THESE ENHANCEMENTS AS PART OF PROGRAMS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED AND BUDGETED EVERY YEAR IS REALLY USEFUL. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. I WASN'T EVEN EXPECTING COMING BACK BY JUNE 9TH, BUT YEAH, ANY SORT OF OPTIONS TO TARGET THAT AREA OR ANY OTHER. IF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY OTHER AREAS YOU'RE AWARE OF, I THINK THAT'S GREAT TO BRING UP. AND THANKS, NICK, FOR SPEAKING WITH ME ABOUT IT EARLIER. I KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGING THING WHEN THERE'S NO IRRIGATION OUT THERE, BUT I KNOW RESIDENTS WERE APPRECIATIVE THAT WE PLANTED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CRESCENT. AND SO, YEAH, I THINK THE NORTH SIDE'S KIND OF THE LAST BASTION OVER THERE. BUT THANK YOU. SO I HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SUGGESTED CHANGES OR ITEMS FOR BUDGET OR CIP THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS FIRST. COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG THANK YOU MAYOR.

SORRY FOR THE LAST ONE. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO JUST GET AN IDEA OF THE AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE TREES. DO YOU GUYS MIND SENDING US SOME PICTURES OF WHICH WHICH THE AREA THAT YOU GUYS ARE HAVE HAVE IN MIND? YEAH, I'VE, I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES. I CAN SHARE THEM WITH YOU AND SEND THEM TO NICK OR PETE AS WELL. JUST MAKING A NOTE OF IT. SO WE'RE ENTERING THE DISCUSSION PHASE RIGHT. AND NOT JUST QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION OKAY. YEAH. MY QUESTION WAS ON THE BIKE MASTER PLAN. IT'S SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP WITH OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND OUR CITY MANAGER. SO FOR BACKGROUND, THE BIKE MASTER PLAN IS $100,000 THAT WAS SET ASIDE OF PANDEMIC FUNDS TO LOOK AT THE BIKEWAYS THROUGHOUT CYPRUS AND COME UP WITH A, YOU KNOW, A PLAN FOR US TO DEVELOP THE BIKING ROUTES ACROSS CYPRUS.

LATELY, WE'VE THE CITY WANTS TO EXPAND IT, WHICH I'M COMFORTABLE WITH. THEY WANT TO INCLUDE ALL NOT JUST BIKEWAYS, BUT ALSO WALKWAYS AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, HIKING ROUTES THAT ANY WAY TO GET THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, JUST WALK AROUND AND BE AT YOUR LEISURE. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT A PHASE WHERE WE CAN WAIT FOR MORE PROGRESS. WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RACE

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COURSE AREA, THAT'S GOING TO BE SO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THE RACE COURSE AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SITE OF OUR FUTURE TOWN CENTER AND COMMONS AREA, YOU KNOW, WALKING, WALKING AREA WITH LOTS OF SHOPS AND RETAIL WHERE PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, GO HANG OUT AND SPEND MONEY, EAT. AND WE WANT THIS TO KIND OF BE THE HUB OF CYPRUS SO THAT IT'S CONNECTING MULTIPLE AREAS OF CYPRUS, YOU KNOW, GOING EAST TO THE COSTCO AND AREAS GOING UP NORTH TO SORRENTO OF MOODY AND, YOU KNOW, GOING EAST TO WEST TOWARD LOS ALAMITOS. AND RIGHT NOW THE PLAN IS TO WAIT FOR THE MORE OF A, A MAP OR A MORE OF A, A GUIDE FOR THE ROADS FOR THAT AREA. BUT I, I'M IN FAVOR OF US POSSIBLY MOVING THAT UP. RIGHT NOW. THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE TOWN CENTER AREA FOR THE BIKE PATHS. RIGHT NOW. IT SAYS TRAILS AND GREENWAYS ARE ENVISIONED TO CONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE ROUTES TO THE PUBLIC PARKS AND TOWN CENTER. ALSO, A TRAIL SYSTEM IS ENVISIONED WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL AND PUBLIC PARK DISTRICTS, AFFORDING RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OPPORTUNITIES TO WALK, JOG, RUN, BIKE FOR EXERCISE, OR SIMPLY FOR CASUAL ENJOYMENT, AND WILL PROVIDE CONVENIENT ACCESS TO THE PARKS, PUBLIC PARKS, THEATERS, SHOPS, SHOPPING, DINING AND WORKPLACES. SO I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE BIKE PATHS THAT WILL POP UP ON THE RACE COURSE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR BY BY WHAT'S IN THE CYPRUS TOWN CENTER AND COMMONS DOCUMENTS. BUT I AM WORRIED THAT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THE RACE COURSE IS GOING TO BE PROLONGED INDEFINITELY. AND SO THAT, THAT THIS BIKE MASTER PLAN WILL NEVER COME INTO FRUITION. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ASKED CITY STAFF HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE FOR HOUSING TO COME UP, AND IT COULD BE TEN YEARS, IT COULD BE 20 YEARS, IT COULD BE 30 YEARS. SO I'M WORRIED THAT IF WE KEEP PUSHING IT BACK SO THAT WE HAVE MORE, MORE OF A CONCRETE PLAN FOR WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ROADWAYS IN THE TOWN CENTER AND COMMONS AREA, THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE WAITING TOO LONG. AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S AREAS IN CYPRUS THAT I FEEL LIKE WE COULD ALREADY DEVELOP THOSE BIKE PATHS. I WAS AT THE I WAS AT THE, THE. THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION. AND THERE IS SOMEONE THAT BROUGHT UP HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS FOR ONE OF THE THEIR HUSBAND TO RIDE UP AND DOWN BLOOMFIELD. AND IF YOU EVER GO DOWN THERE, IT'S A TERRIBLE PLACE FOR BIKING. THERE'S LIKE THERE'S PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, THERE'S NO WALKWAYS. IT'S JUST A VERY CROWDED TWO TWO WAY STREET ON, ON EACH WAY. AND YOU KNOW. AN IDEAL IDEALLY, IF WE HAVE A MASTER BIKE PLAN, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD ROUTE OUT WHERE HOW THEY WANT TO GET TO WORK.

AND SO POSSIBLY GOING DOWN COYOTE CANYON OR GOING EAST TO DENNY STREET, YOU KNOW, AND DEVELOPING DENNY STREETS. AND SO I WANT US TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY THINK ABOUT HAVING THAT IN PLACE BEFORE WE WAIT ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE TOWN CENTER AND COMMONS AREA. IDEALLY, WE HAVE A BIKE MASTER PLAN. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE START DEVELOPING WHAT'S GOING ON OUTSIDE OF THE RACECOURSE AREA. AND THEN LATER ON, WHEN THE RACECOURSE AREA IS TRYING TO BE DEVELOPED, WE HAVE THOSE ROADS AND THEN WE HAVE THE BIKE PATHS. THEY COULD RUN ALONG THE STREET OF THE BIKE PATHS, OR THEY MIGHT CONNECT TO FORM A SEPARATE BIKE PATH THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO THE ROADS. AND WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IS LIKE AN IRVINE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOME AREAS DURING THE NEWER PARTS OF IRVINE WHERE THEY HAVE A BIKE PATH THAT GOES OVER THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO STOP AT THE INTERSECTION TO WAIT FOR ALL THE ROADS. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE IF WE WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE ROADS WERE ALREADY DESIGNED. THAT REQUIRES A MASTER PLAN TO DETERMINE WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON IN EACH OF THOSE PARTS, YOU KNOW, ON THE RACE COURSE AND OUTSIDE THE RACE COURSE. SO. SO I'M HOPING THAT BECAUSE THIS MONEY IS ALREADY SET ASIDE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SUPPLANT ANY EXISTING MONEY FOR THE MASTER PLAN. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT TO YOU? OH, SO I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION. AND SO, COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, I APPRECIATE THE CATCH ON THE BICYCLE MASTER PLAN BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS IN THE CIP FOR A FEW YEARS, AND I KNOW SOME RESIDENTS HAVE SORT OF BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING IS IT BLOOMFIELD OR DENNY OR BOTH? LIKE WHAT? WHAT AREAS ARE YOU SORT OF

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SUGGESTING TARGETING? I GUESS I WAS THINKING ALL OF CYPRUS, BECAUSE THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO GET FROM ONE END TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE OTHER. CYPRUS. OKAY. SO YOU'RE KIND OF SUGGESTING KEEPING THE BICYCLE MASTER PLAN OR INCLUDING IT THIS YEAR AS WELL. YEAH. INCLUDING IT THIS YEAR. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT WAS DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF? NO, I ASSUMED THAT WE WOULD THIS WOULD BE CONTRACTED OUT TO A SEPARATE A THIRD PARTY. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. THIS WOULD BE CONTRACTED TO A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER CONSULTING FIRM. YEAH. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL COULD TAKE A VOTE ON NOW, JUST POSSIBLY INCLUDE IT IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. CIP. OKAY. WELL, YEAH. LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER MINIKUS. WITH REGARDS TO DENNY, COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG, THE ORANGE COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT PLANS ON DOING A MAJOR TRUNK REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO LAST FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS HERE IN THE CITY. AND I'M IN MY NOTES. AT THE END OF OUR COUNCIL MEETING, I'M GOING TO HAVE THE MANAGER FOR OC SAN COME OUT AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION AT THE END OF JUNE IS WHAT I CURRENTLY HAVE A SCHEDULED AT, BUT THAT WOULD BE JUST A HUGE WASTE OF MONEY AT THIS TIME. IF WE WERE TO STRIPE BIKE LANES DOWN. DENNY, I CAN ANTICIPATE WELL, NOT GOING TO ANTICIPATE.

I'M GUESSING THAT DENNY IS GOING TO BE DOWN TO ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC IN EACH DIRECTION, AND MAYBE EVEN SOME SIDEWALK CLOSURES. I SAY, MAYBE I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT SAYING ABSOLUTE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE DANGER THAT THE CONSTRUCTION POSES, THERE MAY HAVE TO BE SOME ALTERNATE ROUTES FOR THE KIDS FOR SCHOOL TO GO GO DOWN SO THEY COULD BE SAFE. BUT AGAIN, UNTIL WE GET A FULL SCOPE OF THAT PRESENTATION FROM THAT PROJECT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE A THREE YEAR MULTI-LAYER PROJECT. SO THANKS. YEAH. SO YEAH, IT'S I GUESS MY PERSPECTIVE IS THE. I'M, I WAS EXCITED THAT WE HAD THIS MONEY FOR THE BICYCLE MASTER PLAN ALLOCATED FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS. I KNOW SOME RESIDENTS, AS I SAID, HAVE BEEN KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING IT, SO I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF TRYING TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING OR START DEVELOPING MORE OF A BICYCLE MASTER PLAN. AND WITH CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, I UNDERSTAND THAT MIGHT DELAY THE IMPLEMENTATION, BUT IT WOULDN'T HURT TO, I SUPPOSE, START IDENTIFYING AREAS OR GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK OR WHATEVER THE BICYCLE MASTER PLAN WOULD ENTAIL. I GUESS SPECIFICALLY AS TO DENNY STREET, JUST BECAUSE ONE OF THE RESIDENTS AT THE TOWN HALL I HOSTED MENTIONED DENNY STREET AS WELL FOR BIKE LANES, AND I KNOW THAT ORANGE AVENUE RECENTLY HAD A RESTRIPING OR PAINTING WHERE A BIKE LANE WAS SORT OF ADDED. AND SO AT THE VERY LEAST ON DENNY STREET, I WOULD THINK MAYBE I NOTICED THAT THE ORANGE AVENUE BIKE LANE DOESN'T CONNECT TO THE DENNY ONE, AND IT'S NOT IT'S LIKE 100 OR 200FT■!S OR 100 AND 200FT. IS NOT A IT WOULDN'T BE A MAJOR PROJECT TO CONNECT THOSE, I WOULDN'T THINK. AND THEN I KNOW THAT, DENNY, ONE DOESN'T EXTEND DOWN TO ARNOLD ELEMENTARY. IT KIND OF STARTS AT THE OTHER BLOCK. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW. AND SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER MONICA'S POINT, I THINK THE IDEA OF MAYBE COMPLETELY TRANSFORMING DENNY STREET WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS OTHER PROJECT HE'S DESCRIBING MIGHT NOT IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO WAIT. BUT CONNECTING DENNY TO ORANGE AND EXTENDING DENNY'S BIKE LANE DOWN TO ARNOLD, I WOULD THINK, IS A PRETTY RELATIVELY MINOR ENDEAVOR. AND I WOULD THINK THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO WAIT THREE YEARS TO DO. AND SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF, AT MINIMUM, TRYING TO AT LEAST CONNECT THAT AREA BECAUSE IT'S MULTIPLE SCHOOLS. AND I JUST THINK IT'S SAFER IF THERE'S MORE CLEAR BIKE LANES. BUT I'M OPEN TO TRYING TO INCLUDE A BIKE MASTER PLAN AS WELL. SO CURIOUS WHAT OTHERS THINK. COUNCILMEMBER MINIKUS I'M NOT OPPOSED TO BIKE LANES, I JUST AM OPPOSED TO WASTING MONEY ON BIKE LANES WHEN THEY LIKELY WON'T EVEN EXIST DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. LIKE I SAID IT, WE'LL WE'LL KNOW MORE AFTER THE PRESENTATION FROM ORANGE COUNTY SAN, BUT I'M I'M OPPOSED TO SPENDING MONEY AND WASTING IT ON STRIPING A STREET WHEN IT'S

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JUST GOING TO GET TORN UP OR. THAT IT'S LIKE THE SIDEWALK AND OR THE BIKE LANE WILL BE SHUT DOWN. THIS CONSTRUCTION IS MASSIVE IN SCOPE AND SIZE. THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND EQUIPMENT AND EXCAVATORS AND DUMP TRUCKS MOVING IN AND OUT, SHORING UP OF THE TRENCHES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUT INTO PLACE IN THESE TRENCHES ARE GOING TO BE RATHER WIDE. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT THE EXACT WIDTH OF THEM, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO DROP IN A HUGE SEWER TRUNK LINE AND HAVE THE MANPOWER INSIDE THAT WHOLE TO WORK SAFELY AS WELL. SO. YEAH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO BIKE LANES, BUT I'M OPPOSED TO WASTING MONEY. OKAY. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. I MEAN, MR. MAYOR, IF I MIGHT HAVE A SORT OF A MIDDLE GROUND LANDING SPOT HERE THAT I THINK WOULD, WOULD PUT THE COUNCIL IN A BETTER POSITION TO HAVE A SORT OF A FULLY FLESHED OUT CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. AND THAT MIGHT BE LET US WORK WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND OR ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS WHO DOES THIS SORT OF WORK TO PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION FOR YOU IN A WORKSHOP, TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT A BIKE MASTER PLAN WOULD REALLY ENTAIL, BECAUSE THE CONVERSATION ON THE DAIS TONIGHT HAS BEEN SORT OF THINGS. IT IS, WHICH IS A PLANNING DOCUMENT AND THINGS THAT'S NOT WHICH IS ACTUALLY STARTING CONSTRUCTION AND NECESSARILY PUTTING STRIPING ON THE GROUND. IT WOULD ALSO LET NICK AND HIS TEAM GIVE YOU A SENSE OF HOW AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN YOUR PRESENTATION. COUNCIL MEMBER DIFFERS FROM THE BIKE MASTER PLAN AND HOW THE TIMING OF THE RACE COURSE, WHICH IS DOING SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY PLANNING WORK ON ITS EVENTUAL REDEVELOPMENT, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE CORE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROADS MIGHT ALL SYNC UP. AND THEN ONCE YOU HAD THAT INFORMATION, I THINK YOU'D HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF THE INVESTMENT IT WOULD COST TO DO THE BIKE MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE WE NEVER THOUGHT $100,000 WAS ENOUGH. AND THE ONLY THING COSTS HAVE DONE, EVEN ON THE SOFT SIDE OF THE BUSINESS, HAS GONE UP A BUNCH SINCE THEN. BUT ALSO THE TIMELINES FOR HOW IF THAT PLAN WAS IN PLACE TODAY, YOU COULD BE WORKING ON PARTS OF IT WHILE WAITING TO DO DENNY, BECAUSE DENNY IS GOING TO GET ALL TORN UP BY THE SAND DISTRICT AND MAYBE ADDRESSING SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SORT OF JUST MISCONNECTIONS THAT WOULDN'T BE DISRUPTED BY CONSTRUCTION. AND I THINK THAT WORKSHOP WOULD GIVE EVERYBODY A MUCH HIGHER BASE LEVEL OF EXPECTATION AND UNDERSTANDING AND REALLY LET YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO SPEND ON IT, AND HOW QUICKLY BOTH THE PLANNING AND THE REALIZATION OF SOME OF THOSE PLANS COULD COME TO PASS. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT WORKS FOR YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE CAN PROBABLY BRING A WORKSHOP TO YOU JUST AFTER WE GET BACK FROM SUMMER BREAK. JUST SAID THAT HOW MUCH WE WANT TO SPEND ON IT? IS IT POSSIBLE TO SPEND MORE THAN 100,000 ON IT? IT'S ALWAYS POSSIBLE TO SPEND MORE. IT'S NOT ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA, BUT IT'S ALWAYS POSSIBLE. YOU'VE HEARD ME, YOU KNOW, JOKE THAT THE ANSWER IS MONEY. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? HOW SO? THE PLAN ITSELF CAN PROBABLY ONLY GET SO EXPENSIVE, BUT THE PLAN CAN PLAN TO DO GOBSMACKING THINGS LIKE YOU SEE IN NEW CONSTRUCTION IN IRVINE. YOU KNOW, THAT IS PROBABLY UNNECESSARY HERE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CONSULTANTS WOULD HELP YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND AT THAT WORKSHOP IS WHAT'S THE ART OF POSSIBLE? AND I DON'T REALLY THINK WE KNOW THAT. AND IT RANGES FROM, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE WHITE STRIPES ON A STREET WHICH YOU'VE SEEN IN CYPRUS TO SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN LONG BEACH, WHERE THERE'S A VERY EXPENSIVE PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTED BARRIER BETWEEN TRAFFIC AND BIKE LANES, AND THEN THERE'S EVERYTHING SORT OF IN BETWEEN THAT. WELL, SO I'D SUGGEST, IF THAT SOUNDS AMENABLE TO YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CHIANG, MAYBE YOU CAN THINK ABOUT WHETHER YOU'D WANT TO COME BACK WITH A WORKSHOP IN A FEW MONTHS, WHETHER YOU'D WANT LIKE A BIKE TYPE PRESENTATION, LIKE DURING A MEETING, LIKE WHATEVER AVENUE YOU THINK. BUT I MEAN, CONSIDERING WE WEREN'T GOING TO BUDGET ANYTHING FOR IT AT ALL, I THINK THAT HAVING SOME TYPE OF PRESENTATION OR WORKSHOP AND THEN FIGURING OUT NEXT STEPS WOULD BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. BUT, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE THIS. SECOND UNLESS YOU WANT TO TRY, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT AS WELL, IF YOU LIKE. YEAH, I'M THANKFUL FOR THIS PROCESS THAT WE HAVE FOR BUDGETING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO BEING ABLE TO SET MONEY ASIDE AND THEN POSSIBLY POSTPONING IT. DOES IT MAKE SENSE AT ALL FOR US TO SET ASIDE $100,000 AND THEN POSSIBLY PUSH IT BACK LATER ON? SO WHAT WE WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO WITH PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT ARE

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MORE IDEA THAN THEY ARE CONCRETE, PUN KIND OF INTENDED IS WE PUT THEM IN THE SECOND OR THE THIRD YEAR OF THE CIP, AND THERE'S NO ACTUAL APPROPRIATION MADE FOR THEM. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE BIKE MASTER PLAN LARGELY LIVED. WHEN IT WAS IN THE CIP, IT WAS IN THE OUT YEARS, AND THE MONEY WAS SET ASIDE AS PART OF THE PANDEMIC RECOVERY FUNDING, BUT WAS NEVER ACTUALLY APPROPRIATED. SO WHAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER IF THIS WORKSHOP IDEA SEEMS LIKE IT'S RESONATING WITH YOU AND IT DOES SEEM LIKE THAT'S THE CASE, IS. SORT OF GIVE US THE DIRECTION TO WORK ON PUTTING A WORKSHOP TOGETHER FOR YOU IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. AND THEN WE CAN EITHER PUT THE IDEA OF INVESTING IN THE BIKE MASTER PLAN IN THE SECOND OR THIRD YEAR OF THE CIP, OR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IN FEBRUARY, WHEN WE BRING THE MID-YEAR CIP UPDATE FORWARD TO YOU, BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE HAD THE WORKSHOP IN THE SUMMER AND HAD SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. BUT WHAT WE REALLY DON'T LIKE TO DO IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CIP, WHICH IS THE APPROPRIATION YEAR, THE CIP IS PUT PROJECTS IN THERE THAT WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO. IT SETS A FALSE SENSE OF EXPECTATION IN THE COMMUNITY, STRESSES OUT NICK AND HIS ENGINEERS, CREATES ACCOUNTING HEADACHES FOR MATT. WE ACTUALLY, I THINK, HAVE CIP DELIVERY AS ONE OF OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES. IT'S SOMETHING WE TAKE REALLY, REALLY SERIOUSLY. WHEN I GOT HERE 11 YEARS AGO, WE DID THAT. WE PUT 20 PROJECTS IN THE CIP BECAUSE WE GOT ASKED FOR 20 PROJECTS, EVEN THOUGH WE ONLY REALLY HAD THE CAPACITY TO BUILD 12. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS GOT MAD AT US THAT WE DIDN'T BUILD THE CIP EVERY YEAR, BUT WE WERE SORT OF SETTING UP OUR OWN FAILURE THERE. OKAY. YEAH, I, I GUESS MY GOSH, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT IT JUST KEEPS BEING PUSHED BACK, YOU KNOW, EVERY FISCAL YEAR. I IS THERE A WAY TO GIVE DIRECTION TO. START THIS PHASE? I GUESS THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. I, I DO WORRY THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST IF WE JUST KEEP PUSHING IT BACK FOR ANOTHER FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO. I KNOW YOUR ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO WAIT FOR THE DESIGN, FOR THE ROADWAYS, FOR THE FOR THE RACE COURSE. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INTENT IS TO GET A DESIGN FOR ALL OF CYPRUS RIGHT NOW AND NOT WAIT FOR THE MASTER PLAN. YEAH, AND THAT MAKES A TON OF SENSE. AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE CAN TALK TO AN EXPERT ABOUT IN THE WORKSHOP. AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? HOW DO WE CREATE A PLAN THAT CAN HAVE THE RACECOURSE ADDED ON TO IT, INSTEAD OF A PLAN THAT HAS TO BE SORT OF ERASED AND REDRAWN WHEN THE RACECOURSE HAPPENS. AND SO IF YOU IF YOU WANTED US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WORKSHOP, LET'S JUST SAY WE DO IT IN THE FALL OF 2025, THE COUNCIL DIRECTION, OR YOUR MOTION COULD BE TO PUT FUNDING FOR THE BIKE MASTER PLAN OR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO WIND UP GETTING CALLED IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE CIP. WE TAG IT AT $100,000 RIGHT NOW. BUT WHEN WE WERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION NEXT YEAR, POST WORKSHOP, WE'D BE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION TO GIVE YOU AN ACCURATE SCOPE, BECAUSE I THINK THE NUMBER IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO A QUARTER OR A HALF MILLION DOLLARS BASED ON NICK'S HEAD NODDING. AND THAT WAS THE OTHER THING. THE OTHER REASON TO WAIT FOR THE RACECOURSE TO HAPPEN TO WORK ON ALL THIS IS IT'S THE KIND OF THING YOU CAN GET THE DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR. YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH WORKSHOP. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY INPUT? COUNCILMEMBER? YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER CHING, I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT. I THINK THAT IT GIVES US A MAP GOING FORWARD AND GIVES A LOT MORE CLARITY BECAUSE THIS THIS ISN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, OH, WE'LL JUST PAINT A PAINT A STRIPE DOWN THE DOWN THE SIDEWALK OR ALONGSIDE A SIDEWALK AND EVERYTHING WILL BE GOOD AND SAFE. I THINK THE WORKSHOP WILL PROVIDE A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE AND CLARITY THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE, SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT, BUT ALSO TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE. MR. CITY MANAGER, WITH PUTTING TOGETHER THIS WORKSHOP, BECAUSE IT IT GIVES US AN ALTERNATIVE. RIGHT. AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT. BUT YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU ON THAT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. ALL RIGHT. AND YEAH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE IN THIS BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS AND WE'RE WRITING DOWN THE NUMBERS ON THE PAPER. AND BUT, I MEAN, THE TRUTH IS THE COUNCIL CAN KIND OF THE COUNCIL CAN KIND OF DO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL PROVIDES DIRECTION FOR. SO WE CAN BUDGET FOR SOMETHING AND THEN NOT END UP SPENDING IT. WE CAN SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR. WE CAN ADD SOMETHING IN MID-YEAR. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL TOO CONSTRAINED BY HAVING TO MAKE THE PERFECT DECISION IN THIS MOMENT. SO YEAH, WHATEVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, I THINK. AND THEN TO CLOSE THE LOOP. SO I THINK THAT'S I'M EXCITED THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE BIKE MASTER PLAN. AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER MINIKUS, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO WASTE MONEY. THAT'S I DON'T THINK

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THAT'S ANYONE'S GOAL. JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT DENNY STREET AND IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO ORANGE IN THE BIKE LANE, I MEAN, IT LITERALLY MIGHT BE THE DISTANCE OF THIS ROOM. SO IT'S NOT LIKE A MAJOR PROJECT. AND SO, NICK, IS THAT EVEN SOMETHING THAT WOULD RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A CIP PROJECT OR WOULD KIND OF CONNECTING THE BIKE LANE FROM ORANGE TO DENNY AND POTENTIALLY EXPANDING IT TO ARNOLD? WOULD THAT BE JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO MORE MINIMALLY WITHOUT PUTTING IT IN THE CIP? IS THIS ON DENNY BETWEEN LINCOLN AND ORANGE? IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT? IT'S NO IT'S YOU GO DOWN ORANGE AND THEN YOU TURN RIGHT ON DENNY. AND IT'S LIKE THERE'S JUST A GAP WHERE IF YOU'RE TURNING RIGHT ONTO DENNY, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT A BIKE LANE EXISTS BECAUSE IT STARTS AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, 100 OR 200FT DOWN.

WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY FIRST, BECAUSE DENNY IS A FOUR LANE ROADWAY, TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION. BUT AS YOU GET TOWARDS THE INTERSECTION, YOU NORMALLY INTRODUCE A LEFT TURN LANE. SO NOW YOU HAVE FIVE LANES. SO THAT THAT COULD BE A REASON WHY THERE IS NO PAINTED BIKE LANE THERE. IT COULD STILL BE A DESIGNATED BIKE ROUTE WITH A SIGN. AND THEN WHEN THE LEFT TURN PRETTY MUCH DROPS OFF, YOU HAVE A BIKE LANE AGAIN. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FIRST FOR FEASIBILITY TO MAKE SURE IT'S WE EVEN HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACING OUT THERE. OKAY. SO WOULD IT BE OKAY? MAYBE IF I JUST CONNECTED WITH YOU DIRECTLY ABOUT IT AND SHOWED YOU JUST SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN YOU CAN SORT OF LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK IS FEASIBLE. YES. THAT'S POSSIBLE. OKAY. JUST MAKING A NOTE OF THAT BECAUSE NICK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT INVOLVES POTENTIALLY A STATE LAW. RIGHT WITH THAT LEFT TURN LANE OR RIGHT TURN LANE IF THERE'S NO SUFFICIENT SPACING, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A BIKE LANE THAT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS NORMALLY OF A FIVE FOOT BIKE LANE AND THEN A THREE FOOT BUFFER OUT THERE. BECAUSE IF YOU IF CORRECT ME, IF I'M WRONG FROM MY TEN YEARS AGO KNOWLEDGE OF BEING A COP, THAT COULD ACTUALLY INCREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR ACCIDENTS AT THAT PARTICULAR JUNCTURE. THAT'S POTENTIALLY POSSIBLE. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN MY I'VE GOT A MINOR ONE. MR. DRAPER, WE TALKED ON THE PHONE. THIS WON'T BE A SIP LEVEL THING, I DON'T THINK. AT MY TOWN HALL, SOME RESIDENTS TALKED ABOUT ADDING SIGNAGE TO OUR PARKS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT E-BIKES AREN'T ALLOWED THERE. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF UPDATING SIGNAGE. YEAH. YES. AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE UPDATE OUR PARKS, WE DO REGULAR ENHANCEMENTS. THERE'S ALSO PARK ENHANCEMENTS ON THE CIP. WE UPDATE EVERYTHING FROM PICNIC TABLES, TRASH CANS, SIGNAGE, BARBECUES, YOU NAME IT. WE GO OUT THERE AND REPLACE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AND LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW I'M PAYING ATTENTION TO THEIR GOOD SUGGESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE IDEAS THAT I WANTED TO PROPOSE POTENTIALLY FOR INCLUSION. SO ONE IS REGARDING TO OUR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. SO BACK IN 2023 WE WERE SCHEDULED TO START REPLACING OUR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT STARTING IN FISCAL YEAR 20 2526, WHICH WOULD BE COMING UP NOW. BUT THAT'S BEEN PUSHED BACK TO FISCAL YEAR 20 2728. AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK WHERE IT WAS AND MOVE THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT SCHEDULE FROM TWO YEARS FROM NOW TO THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, HERE IN CYPRUS, WE HAVE FOUR PARKS WHERE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS ALREADY 22 YEARS OLD, THREE WHERE IT'S 20 YEARS OLD, AND EIGHT WHERE IT'S 17 YEARS OLD. AND BASED ON WHAT I'VE KIND OF SEEN IN OTHER CITIES AND INDUSTRY STANDARDS, THE USEFUL LIFE TENDS TO RANGE AROUND 15 YEARS. ALTHOUGH, YOU SEE, PEOPLE SAY WITH PROPER MAINTENANCE YOU CAN GET TO 20 OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN BEYOND THAT. AND I'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF OUR OLDER EQUIPMENT THIS 22 YEARS OLD, SOME OF IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD FOR ITS AGE, I WOULD SAY, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. AND I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO KIND OF SQUEEZE MORE LIFE OUT OF IT. A COUPLE OF PARKS DO HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT I'D SAY IS MORE SHOWING ITS AGE.

I'VE GOT PHOTOS FROM MY COLLEAGUES, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE, BUT I VISITED ANOTHER PARK TODAY. THIS WAS MAPLE GROVE NORTH, AND I SHOWED YOU SLIDES FROM MAPLE GROVE SOUTH LAST TIME. THESE ARE TWO OF OUR OLDEST PARKS PLAYGROUNDS. ONE OF THE SLIDES WAS CRACKED IN THIS ONE YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE RUBBER MATERIAL KIND OF COMING APART. AND I'M WORRIED THAT IF

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WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TWO, THREE, FIVE YEARS TO REPLACE THEM, RIGHT, THE CONDITION IS NOT GOING TO IMPROVE. AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE REPLACEMENT SCHEDULED FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER TWO YEARS, WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS ARE GOING TO BE 25 YEARS OLD OR OLDER BY THE TIME WE REPLACE THEM. AND I JUST THINK WE'RE FORTUNATE TO BE IN A CITY LIKE CYPRUS, WHERE WE HAVE GOOD FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT OVERALL, AND WE HAVE RESOURCES TO DEDICATE TO IMPROVING OUR PARKS LIKE THIS. AND I THINK WE CAN WE SHOULD DO A LITTLE MORE RAPIDLY THAN REPLACING THEM EVERY QUARTER CENTURY. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME BECAUSE WE'LL BE GETTING SUGGESTIONS FROM THE RECREATION COMMISSION SERVICES COMMISSION SOON. OUR AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE OPTION OF REPLACING PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IN AT LEAST ONE PARK IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS JUST WITHIN THE NEXT 13, 14 MONTHS. SO I THINK IF WE HAVE THE MONEY AND THE ABILITY, WE SHOULD MOVE THESE BACK TO WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY WERE AND START THE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PROGRAM IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT'S I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST GIVE US THE OPTION TO DO THAT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES WHAT THEY THINK. I JUST THINK WE CAN PROVIDE SOME UPGRADES FOR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN SOME OF THESE PARKS THAT ARE OLDER TEND TO BE CONGREGATED IN ONE AREA OF THE CITY.

ANY THOUGHTS? OR I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS, IS THE BUDGETS FIXED. AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE CAN'T MOVE MONEY AROUND FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, BUT WE'RE IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO AS AS OUR FINANCIAL DIRECTORS PUT OUT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING UP TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK. SO HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT WE DON'T DO TO SHIFT THE MONEY TOWARDS THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT? YEAH. SO CAN I ASK STAFF MAYBE ABOUT THAT? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IN TERMS OF REPLACING PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, RIGHT. IT'S NOT ON THE SCALE OF SOME OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS WE'VE DONE RECENTLY. I GET. ARE YOU SAYING THAT UNDER THE CURRENT CIP, WE'RE SORT OF AT ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM CAPACITY WHERE WE COULDN'T GET A PLAYGROUND REPLACED THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR? WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST MEETING WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP MAPLE GROVE SOUTH WAS HAVING TO BASICALLY REDO THE BIDS, POSSIBLY ASKING THE CONTRACTOR TO HOLD ON TO THE BID AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THAT'S WHY NONE OF US WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT, BECAUSE IT PUTS A STRAIN ON MANPOWER ISSUES. AND THEN ALSO THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT AS WELL. I'M NOT SAYING NO, I'M JUST SAYING WHERE DO WE MOVE THINGS AROUND, OR DO WE PULL MONEY OUT OF OUR OUT OF OUR RESERVES TO PAY FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT? YEAH, AND THAT'S SORT OF THE QUESTION I WANT TO GET INTO WITH STAFF. BUT I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SHARE. YEAH, IT'S KIND OF IT'S KIND OF A QUESTION. WHEN WE SET UP THE AD HOC TO HAVE. A SPECIAL PROJECT, IF YOU WANT TO SAY FOR THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSION TO LOOK AT AND I'LL CALL IT PRIMARILY WAS FOCUSED ON SHADES, BUT THERE BUT THEY LOOK AT OVERALL AT THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT. WE HAD SAID THAT, HEY, WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GO IN AND DON'T HAVE TO CREATE AD HOC. WE COULD JUST SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T WE DO SOME OF THESE THINGS AND CONSIDER THESE THINGS? SO I'M A LITTLE HESITANT. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PROBLEM OF PULLING THINGS IN. I'M JUST A LITTLE HESITANT TO DO ANYTHING BEFORE THEY COME IN AND TALK TO US, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT THEY MAY SUGGEST, AND MAYBE SOMEBODY KNOWS. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING, BUT MY THOUGHT IS I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MINIKUS IS THERE'S A TRADE OFF, RIGHT? AND WE CAN ALWAYS ADD

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THINGS IN. WE CAN INCREASE THE BUDGET IF WE CHOOSE TO, BUT WE CAN ALSO POSSIBLY SHIFT THINGS OUT. SO MY THOUGHT IS LET'S SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH. AND AGAIN, IT MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS ONLY STATING AT THIS PARK, I DON'T KNOW, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH AND AT THAT TIME MAYBE SAY, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S DO THAT. AND WHILE WE DO THAT, LET'S MODIFY THAT PLAYGROUND AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY MAY COME IN AND SAY, HEY, LET'S FOCUS AT THIS PARK. AND THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE OLDEST PARKS THAT MAY WANT WE MAY WANT TO SAY, HEY, LET'S DO THE EQUIPMENT TOO.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN DO THE WHOLE THING. BUT I'M A LITTLE IN THE DARK RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD THING TO PROACTIVELY DO SOME OF THAT STUFF AT OUR PARKS, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM FIRST. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. YEAH. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO THE COMMISSION WILL KIND OF MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO US. THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH IS MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG. AND THEN WE'LL BRING THOSE TO THE FULL COUNCIL. AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DON'T GET THEIR ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH IT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE, HEY, WE GOT GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'VE GOT A PLAN, EVERYONE. A LOT OF PEOPLE AGREE THAT THIS PLAYGROUND SHOULD BE REPLACED, BUT BUT WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE CIP, SO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT, YOU KNOW.

AND AGAIN, RIGHT NOW WITH THE CIP, WE'RE WAITING TWO FISCAL YEARS BEFORE WE EVEN REPLACE ONE PLAYGROUND. SO I JUST SORT OF WANTED TO GIVE US THE WELL, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO START SOONER, BUT I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DON'T WAIT UNTIL WE GET INFORMATION TO MAKE THE EXACT DECISION AS TO WHERE, IF ANYWHERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO IT.

BUT COUNCIL MEMBER MINIKUS. THANK YOU. NICK, THIS IS MORE OF A QUESTION TO YOU BEFORE I ASK IT. I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD IT TO IT, BUT CAN YOU GIVE US A BALLPARK FIGURE OF WHAT NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, EQUIPMENT FOR MAPLE GROVE, SOUTHWOOD COST OR NORTHWOOD COST? OKAY. AND, NICK, IT COULD JUST BE FOR ANY ANY KIND OF STANDARD PARK. I DIDN'T I DON'T MEAN TO LIKE, IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC ONES, BUT I'D SAY WHAT'S THE MORE. AND I THINK WE BUDGETED 450,000 FOR EQUIPMENT PLUS POTENTIALLY SHADE. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. THE 450 WOULD INCLUDE THE SHADE AND REDOING THE RUBBERIZED PLAY SURFACING, BUT NOT THE EQUIPMENT AND THE EQUIPMENT AND EQUIPMENT.

OKAY, OKAY. AND TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, THE CONSTRAINT THAT YOU FACE WITH EVERYBODY HERE THAT WE GOT ANOTHER SONIC BOOM GOING ON. YEAH. OKAY. LOOK OVER THE GUYS WITH GUNS, THE CONSTRAINTS LESS HAVING THE FUNDING AVAILABLE. THESE ASSETS ARE SCHEDULED FOR REPLACEMENT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. THE CONSTRAINT YOU FACE IS THE STAFF ON BOTH THE PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING SIDE AND THE RCS TEAM SIDE TO DELIVER THE PROJECT. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IF ONE PROJECT COMES IN, ONE PROJECT HAS TO GO OUT IN CYPRUS. AND WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE IN THIS REGARD. IT'S NOT ABOUT PAYING FOR THE PROJECT, IT'S ABOUT FINDING THE HUMAN RESOURCES TO DELIVER IT. AND THAT THAT IS WHY IF A PROJECT LIKE A NEW PLAYGROUND TO THE MAYOR'S POINT LOCATION, TBD COMES IN, NICK WILL TALK WITH YOU AS PART OF THAT DIRECTION ABOUT WHICH PROJECT WOULD PUSH OUT INTO A FUTURE YEAR THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DELIVER AS RECOMMENDED IN 2526. BUT FINDING THE MONEY FOR IT, ASSUMING THAT WE DON'T, ASSUMING THAT WE DO A LIKE FOR LIKE REPLACEMENT, WILL NOT BE THE CHALLENGE. OKAY. AND THEN. YEAH. SO I WANTED TO ASK I GUESS IS AND NICK OR MATT OR PETE TO ELABORATE ON THAT COMPONENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I, WHERE I GROW CONCERNED IS. SO IS THE IDEA THAT THE PROPOSED CIP AS IS, IS SORT OF THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE NEXT YEAR? YES. WE DON'T LEAVE UNUTILIZED STAFF RESOURCES WAITING AROUND TO DO A PROJECT. WE PROGRAM ALL 2080 HOURS OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK ON THESE PROJECTS TOWARDS DELIVERING THE CIP PROJECTS. AND SO DO YOU HAVE, I GUESS THEN SOME SORT OF LIKE HOURLY BREAKDOWN OF THE PROJECTS IN THE CIP AND HOW LIKE HOW DO YOU DETERMINE LIKE HOW DID YOU DETERMINE THAT THIS WAS OUR MAXIMUM? YEAH. THE ENGINEERING STAFF IS ALLOCATED TO PROJECTS ON AN HOUR BY HOUR BASIS AS PART OF THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. OKAY. AND SO CAN WE SEE THAT THEN. THAT'S A REPORT FINANCE HAS. BUT I THINK THE PROPER PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IS LIKE IF YOU SAY TO NICK, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD REPLACING ONE OF THE

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EXISTING PLAYGROUNDS TO THIS YEAR'S CIP. HE'S THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ALREADY AND CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION OF THAT MEANS THIS PROJECT WOULD NEED TO COME OFF THE PLATE. THAT'S THE LEVEL AT WHICH THE COUNCIL SORTS OF SORT OF BUDGETS. BUT WE WHEN WE'RE DOWN A BODY IN ENGINEERING, BUT THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES ARE ALL PROGRAMED IN THE CIP. THAT'S EFFECTIVELY HOW WE SIZE THE CIP, RIGHT? I REFERENCED IT A FEW MINUTES AGO WHEN I WHEN I GOT HERE OVER A DECADE AGO, WE WERE JUST SAYING YES TO EVERY CITY COUNCIL REQUEST FOR THE CIP. AND THEN WE'RE COMING IN AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND SAYING WE DIDN'T BUILD HALF OF IT. SORRY. THAT IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO GO ABOUT SETTING YOUR BUDGET OR SETTING YOUR EMPLOYEES UP TO BE SUCCESSFUL, OR YOUR RESIDENTS UP TO HAVE THEIR EXPECTATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE CITY CAN AND CANNOT DO. MET. SO THEN. WERE WE UNABLE TO MEET OUR GOALS THE PAST COUPLE YEARS WITH THE CIP, I THINK PROJECT DELIVERY HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD. YEAH, I BELIEVE IT WAS HOVERING AROUND 85, 90, 90% EACH YEAR. OKAY. YEAH. THE REASON I GUESS I'M TRYING I WANT TO UNDERSTAND AND I KNOW YOU HAD SAID WE'RE DOWN AN ENGINEER, AT LEAST TEMPORARILY, RIGHT. WE'RE TRYING TO HIRE FOR THAT POSITION OR WE'RE BUDGETED TO HIRE FOR THAT POSITION. RIGHT. IT'S INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. YES. OKAY. SO BECAUSE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS I NOTICED WE'VE DONE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE CIP PROJECTS. AND SO AND I KNOW ONE OF THOSE WAS ARNOLD CYPRESS PARK, WHICH IS PROBABLY COUNTS AS TEN. AND SO IF WE COULD DO MORE ON THE ORDER OF LIKE 30 CIP PROJECTS THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, THIS YEAR WE'RE I THINK AT 22, WHAT'S THE REASON THAT WE'RE WE CAN'T KIND OF DELIVER AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. IS IT WHAT'S THE CAUSE OF THE DIMINISHED STAFF CAPACITY? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT TO BE DELAYING PROJECTS. AND THE COST GOES UP SUBSTANTIALLY BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET TO THEM IN KIND OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE'D LIKE. AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE QUANTITY.

IT IS A QUALITY OF THE PROJECTS, TOO. YOU KNOW, SOME PROJECTS REQUIRE LESS OR LESS LABOR INTENSIVE. IF WE HAVE LIKE A SMALL, FOR EXAMPLE, UP THERE, YOU SEE, WE HAVE CIVIC CENTER, GREEN TREE REPLACEMENT, $22,500. THAT'S JUST FOR PLANT. THAT'S JUST TO REPLANT TWO TREES OUT HERE ON THE CIVIC CENTER GREEN DUE TO OLD DECLINING TREES. SO, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE ONE PROJECT LIKE YOU SAID, ARNOLD CYPRESS PARK MIGHT EQUAL TEN PROJECTS. WE HAVE MYRA AVENUE PUMP STATION COMING UP. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS. I WOULD SAY IT'S THE SCOPE AND SIZE OF THOSE PROJECTS. YEAH. NO, I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EXACT NUMBER FOR NUMBER COMPARISON, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, LIKE IF PART OF THE REASON WE'RE MAYBE AT A DIMINISHED CAPACITY IS BECAUSE WE'RE DOWN AN ENGINEER, BUT IF WE'VE BUDGETED FOR THAT AND WE EXPECT TO HIRE AN ENGINEER SHORTLY, WOULDN'T THAT ENABLE US TO DO MORE PROJECTS? AND THEN I GUESS I'D RATHER BUDGET FOR A HIGH GOAL AND ACHIEVE 80 OR 90% OF IT THEN. THEN BUDGET AT A LOWER LEVEL AND NOT NOT BE ABLE TO DO SOME THINGS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR RESIDENTS. LIKE, I GUESS I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY WE IT'S JUST NOT CONCEIVABLE THAT WE COULD REPLACE A PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT ONE AT ONE PARK, BUT IT IS. I THINK THAT'S THE IMPORTANT MESSAGE THERE IS THAT IT'S ANY OF THESE PROJECTS CAN BE TRADED OUT FOR ANOTHER.

THE COUNCIL'S PRIMARY ROLE IN BUDGETING IS PRIORITIZATION. THE VACANT ENGINEER POSITION IS BUDGETED AND NOT JUST TO SPEND MONEY TO PAY THAT PERSON, BUT THEIR TIME IS BUDGETED. IN THE CIP, WE DIDN'T LOOK AND THINK, OH, WE HAVE A VACANCY IN JULY. WE NEED TO PULL OUT THREE CIP PROJECTS. IF WE HAD THREE ENGINEERS RESIGN TOMORROW, THE DAY AFTER THE CIP WAS ADOPTED.

THOSE PROJECTS, NICK, ONCE THOSE PROJECTS ARE STILL IN THE CIP, WE'D ADDRESS IT AT THE MID-YEAR.

IF THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS TO ADD A PROJECT WITHOUT TAKING ONE OUT, WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF RESOURCES, OF COURSE WE'LL DO THAT AND WE'LL DO OUR VERY BEST TO DELIVER THAT PROJECT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, WHEN YOU GIVE ME THAT DIRECTION THAT THERE IS LIKELY TO BE MORE CIP PROJECTS IN THE NOT COMPLETED STAGE THAN THERE ARE NORMALLY. IF WE WANT TO MOVE A PLAYGROUND PROJECT IN IN, I THINK YOU CERTAINLY MAKE A COMPELLING CASE FOR DOING THAT.

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A PROJECT OF EQUAL COMPLEXITY THAT REQUIRES AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF ENGINEERING RESOURCES, HAS TO GET DELAYED OR DEFERRED. AND SO, YEAH, MAYBE SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS IF WE COULD DO 32 CIP PROJECTS PER YEAR ON AVERAGE THE PAST FEW YEARS, WHY CAN WE ONLY DO 22 THIS YEAR? WHAT WHAT CHANGED? THE ANSWER NICK JUST GAVE YOU IS THE TYPE AND COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. BUT HOW COULD THIS YEAR BE MORE COMPLEX THAN THE YEAR WE DID ARNOLD CYPRESS PARK, WHERE WE DID ARNOLD CYPRESS PARK, AND WE DID A HIGHER NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS, I JUST AND I'M NOT TRYING TO I JUST WANT TO ANSWER IF THE ANSWER IS WE NEED TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE THAN I WANT TO KNOW THAT SO WE CAN HIRE MORE PEOPLE.

IF THE ANSWER IS ONE OF THESE PROJECTS IS EVEN MORE COMPLEX THAN OLD CYPRESS PARK, THEN FINE, I WANT TO KNOW THAT. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO, I THINK, APPRECIATE. IT'S TOUGH TO BE IN THE ROLE OF RESIDENTS TRYING TO ASK US TO ADDRESS THEIR PROBLEMS AND TO GO BACK AND JUST SAY, WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY. THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER THAT THEY FIND VERY SATISFYING. SO. WHY CAN'T WE DO AS MANY PROJECTS THIS YEAR AS WE'VE DONE ALL OF THE PAST THREE YEARS? THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS IN THE PLANNED AND PLANNED YEAR. ONE OF THE CIP THAT ARE COMPLEX, THE SEWER MASTER PLAN UPDATE.

THAT'S VERY LABOR INTENSIVE. WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT, PULLING ALL THE ASPHALT PLANS, WORKING WITH THEM THROUGH ALL THE MODELS TO LOOK AT. WE ALSO HAVE THE HVAC REHAB PROJECT FOR CITY HALL THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME EXTENSIVE COORDINATION, SEQUENCING, AND MOVING SOME OF OUR STAFF AROUND IN THE BUILDING DURING THAT TIME. THAT COULD ALSO AFFECT THE PUBLIC COUNTER.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THAT WILL BE VERY LABOR INTENSIVE FOR OUR STAFF TO DO ALL THAT COORDINATION. AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN HERE THAT ARE NOT OUR NORMAL ROUTINE, RECURRING MAINTENANCE PROJECTS. THOSE PROJECTS WE CAN TYPICALLY DO FAIRLY QUICKLY, FAIRLY EFFICIENTLY. THAT INCLUDES OUR STREET RESURFACING PROJECTS, OUR ROUTINE ANNUAL CONCRETE PROJECTS. BUT ONCE YOU GET INTO THE FACILITY PROJECTS AND THESE ONE OFF PROJECTS, THAT'S WHERE IT GETS MORE COMPLEX, REQUIRES MORE OF OUR OUR LABOR TIME, LABOR, STAFF, RESOURCES AND OVERSIGHT FROM THE SUPERVISORS AS WELL. SO THEN IS THIS YEAR EVEN BUSIER THAN THE ARNOLD CYPRESS PARK YEAR? SO ARNOLD CYPRESS PARK WAS A PROJECT, I THINK, IN TWO FISCAL YEARS AGO. SO I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT COUNT OF PROJECTS IN THERE. BUT I DO KNOW WHEN COMPARING TO OTHER CITIES AND SPEAKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN OTHER CITIES. TYPICALLY EACH ENGINEER HANDLES 3 TO 4 PROJECTS A YEAR. WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR ENGINEERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, AND THAT'S ALREADY 22 PROJECTS. AND NORMALLY AT THE DIRECTOR LEVEL I WOULD BE DOING VERY MINIMAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT. SO I THINK ALREADY AS IT IS, WE ARE FULLY COMMITTED TO DELIVERING THE 22 PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THIS UPCOMING CIP, AND THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN CONSTRUCTION OR ABOUT TO START CONSTRUCTION FROM THIS CURRENT YEAR CIP THAT WILL SPILL OVER TO NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WELL, IT'S YEAH, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO JUST UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP. IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY, BECAUSE. I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME ACCEPTING THAT OUR WE'RE DOING FEWER PROJECTS THAN WE'VE DONE EACH OF THE PAST FEW YEARS. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M ABSOLUTELY FINE PUTTING PROJECTS IN AND WE DON'T HIT 100%, BUT I'D RATHER AT LEAST TRY TO ADDRESS MORE CONCERNS THIS YEAR THAN WAIT A COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG. THANK YOU GUYS. JUST FOR A BACKGROUND, WE WERE GOING THROUGH A BIT OF A PARADIGM SHIFT FOR HOW WE, IN TERMS OF OUR STRATEGY FOR ADDRESSING OUR PARKS. MOST OF OUR PARKS WERE UPDATED IN 2003 TO 2008, AND WE KIND OF DID THEM ALL IN A BUNCH. AND NOW AND IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2027, WE'RE STARTING TO SHIFT TO ADDRESSING EACH ONE PARK ANNUALLY. AND SO WE'LL WE'LL DO THE ONE PARK 2027 ONE PARK 2028, ONE PARK IN 2020 2029. IDEALLY, WHENEVER WE DO SHIFT A STRATEGY LIKE THAT, WE WOULDN'T DO IT AT THE VERY TAIL

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END WHEN ALL THE PARKS ARE NEEDING TO BE REPLACED. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALMOST WE'RE CLOSE TO THE 20 YEAR MARK FOR MOST OF OUR PARKS, AND WE'RE JUST NOW IMPLEMENTING A NEW STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE OLDER PARKS. IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, WE DO THEM ALL AT ONCE RIGHT NOW AGAIN. AND THEN WE SWITCH, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW AND 15 YEARS NOW TO ADDRESSING EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY. SO I AM WORRIED THAT WE'RE PUSHING OUR LIMIT FOR HOW LONG THIS PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT SHOULD LAST. IT SHOULD LAST, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS BEFORE IT GETS REPLACED.

ANYBODY WITH KIDS CAN GO OUT AND TO THEIR LOCAL PARK AND SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SIGNS THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN STARTING TO RUN DOWN. SO I'M WORRIED THAT WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR BEHIND IN OUR UPDATES. AND I'M ALSO WORRIED THAT WITH STAFF CAPACITY, ONCE WE DO START HAVING TO DO THAT YEARLY UPDATE, DO WE HAVE THE STAFF CAPACITY TO DO OTHER STUFF TOO? CONSIDERING HOW HARD IT IS TO GET THAT DONE? SO. SO WE WILL NEED A PROCESS IN PLACE TO UPDATE EACH PARK, AND I'M ASSUMING POSSIBLY A STAFF MEMBER. AND THEN IF SOMETHING ELSE COMES ALONG, SOME KIND OF EMERGENCY, WILL WE HAVE THE STAFF POWER TO ADDRESS THOSE OTHER THINGS ON TOP OF WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND ON TOP OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH UPDATING THE PARKS, TOO? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MINKUS. I THINK WITH REGARDS TO THE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECTS LAST YEAR VERSUS THIS YEAR, THE 30 VERSUS 22 PROJECTS WITHIN THE CIP. MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES. AND THAT'S WHAT NICK IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO US. AND WHAT THE CITY MANAGER IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO US IS THAT IT'S NOT APPLES FOR APPLES HERE. ARNOLD PARK WAS A HUGE UNDERTAKING, BUT THAT WAS WELL IN THE WORKS LONG BEFORE THIS FISCAL YEAR BUDGET AND OR NEXT ONE CAME OUT. SO HIRING ANOTHER ENGINEER IS NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY SPEED UP THE PROCESS HERE. SO IT COMES DOWN TO WITH REGARDS TO MAPLE GROVE NORTH IS WE HAVE TO TAKE SOMETHING TO GIVE SOMETHING. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. IT'S EASY JUST TO SAY, OH YEAH, WELL LET'S JUST DO X RIGHT. BUT I THINK WHAT WE AREN'T UNDERSTANDING COMPLETELY AND THIS HAS BEEN SHOWN EVEN IN THIS MEETING, IS THAT IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS, AS PAINTING A STRIPE. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS JUST PULLING EQUIPMENT OUT FROM A PLAYGROUND AND PURCHASING NEW STUFF AND PUTTING IT IN, EVEN THOUGH I WOULD LOVE IT IF IT WAS THAT SIMPLE, I'D LOVE IT. BUT WE'RE CONSTRAINED BY CALIFORNIA STATE LAW AS WELL. AND SO THERE'S THIS PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT THE CITY HAS TO FOLLOW. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT THAT SIMPLE. AND TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT ALSO, IS THAT MAYBE NOT FOR PARKS, ALTHOUGH THAT MAY BE AN OPTION SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, LIKE OC SAN WHEN THEY DO THEIR PROJECT ALONG. DENNEY, WE CAN REQUEST AS A CITY THAT THEY DO THE UPGRADES FOR US.

THEY RESTRIPE THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF DENNEY. IT COULD BE THAT WE CAN ASK THEM TO MAYBE FIND SOME WAY TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALK FROM CERRITOS AVENUE ON DANNY, MOVING NORTH UP TO UP TO ORANGE. ALL THOSE THINGS ARE POSSIBILITIES, AND I'M MUCH MORE IN FAVOR OF USING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY THAN OUR MONEY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK. BUT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. ALL RIGHT. WITH REGARDS TO THIS ONE, I GUESS I HAVE I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR STAFF'S ABILITY TO GET THIS DONE. AND ANOTHER FACTOR I'D SAY IS, LOOK, I THINK ON THIS CONSENT CALENDAR TODAY WE HAD EMERGENCY REPAIRS WE DID ON A SEWER LINE. RIGHT.

AND I THINK WE GOT AN UPDATE FROM THE CITY MANAGER RECENTLY. PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AT MACKEY PARK WAS DAMAGED AND WE'RE REPLACING IT. SO CLEARLY THERE'S ROOM FOR OUR STAFF TO RESPOND TO CHALLENGES. RIGHT? IF SOMEONE VANDALIZED A PLAYGROUND TOMORROW, WE WOULDN'T JUST LEAVE IT AS IS FOR A YEAR AND SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM IN THE CIP. SO I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE

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THIS UP. AND I'D RATHER SAY, LET'S MOVE IT UP, AND IF WE CAN'T DO IT, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN WE DO IT THE NEXT YEAR. BUT TO ME, JUST HAVING A PLAN WHERE OUR DEFAULT IS THESE PLAYGROUNDS ARE ALL GOING TO BE 25 YEARS OLD BEFORE THEY'RE REPLACED, ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M WITH THE PHOTOS AND THE CONDITION THEY'RE IN. I I'D RATHER SHOOT FOR THE STARS AND, YOU KNOW, LAND ON THE MOON AND SO ON. THIS ONE ALL I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE UP THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FROM FISCAL YEAR 2728 TO FISCAL YEAR 20 2526, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PETE'S CONCERNS IN MIND THAT WE'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS WE GET BEFORE DECIDING ANY SPECIFICS, BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT UP IN THE SCHEDULE SO THAT WE, TO ADDRESS COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG'S CONCERN, AREN'T AREN'T WAITING TOO LONG AND KIND OF HAVING TO DO THESE ALL AT ONCE. SO. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. SO. WE I GOT A REPEAT OF THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO I'M MAKING A MOTION TO MOVE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT SCHEDULE, WHICH IS SLATED TO START IN FISCAL YEAR 2728 UP TO STARTING THIS FISCAL YEAR, WITH THE IDEA THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT GOAL. RIGHT. BUT THE NEXT PART OF IT IS THE QUESTION I HAVE. YOU SAID PENDING FEEDBACK FROM. BUT YOU'RE SAYING PENDING FEEDBACK FROM THE DIRECTORS. I'M SAYING, YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PICK A PARK TODAY OR WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE REC, THE RCS COMMISSION, UNTIL THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL. THIS IS JUST PUTTING IT IN THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN SO THAT WE CAN UPGRADE A PLAYGROUND WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDES. RIGHT. BUT WE'RE DOING IT PRIOR TO GETTING FEEDBACK FROM OUR DIRECTORS. WE'RE NOT PICKING A PARK TO DO IT IN. WE'RE JUST ALLOWING WE'RE JUST DECIDING TO DEVOTE SOME RESOURCES TO GIVE US THE OPTION TO DO IT. SO WE'RE MOVING MONEY WITHOUT KIND OF GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE DIRECTORS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE CHANGING THE PROCESS THAT ON THE FLY HERE. EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A STRATEGIC PLAN IN APRIL, ALL THE OTHER THINGS, AND NOW WE'RE DECIDING TO GO AND MOVE IT. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE THING THAT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH. WE'RE CHANGING THE PROCESS HERE ON THE FLY WITHOUT GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE DIRECTORS. THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? POTENTIALLY, YES. WHO DO YOU MEAN BY THE DIRECTORS? I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND. WELL, LET ME JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK.

THE NICK HAS SAID THAT HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND TO MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO'S POINT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE CIRCUMVENTING THE PROCESS NOW ON ON YOUR WISHES OR YOUR MOTION. WELL, YEAH, I GUESS I'D ASK IF YOU'VE CONSIDERED WHAT THIS MEANS IN SORT OF THE BIG PICTURE OF BUDGETING AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR PROJECTS.

BUT WE'RE SETTING WE'RE SETTING THE CITY UP FOR FAILURE. OKAY. WELL, LET ME FINISH MY THOUGHT, PLEASE. SO WE GET THE PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WE GOT IT AT A PRIOR WORKSHOP, AND I SCHEDULED THIS MEETING OR THIS AGENDA ITEM SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY PROVIDE SUGGESTIONS OR ADD ITEMS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. I GUESS WHAT'S TROUBLING ME IS IF BY THE TIME WE GOT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, IT WAS SO MAXED OUT THAT THE COUNCIL'S NOT ABLE TO ADD A SINGLE THING TO IT. WITHOUT TAKING SOMETHING ELSE AWAY, THAT REALLY SEEMS LIKE WE'RE UNDERMINING THE COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO MAKE CHANGES TO OUR CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR TO OUR BUDGET. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO? WHERE ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THIS RIGHT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW I'M SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS RESIDENTS CONCERNS. IF I'M TOLD BY THE TIME I GET THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, SORRY, IT'S DONE, YOU CAN'T ADD ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. AND AGAIN, IN 2023, WE WERE ABLE TO DO ARNOLD CYPRESS PARK, PLUS

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29 OTHER PROJECTS. WHY CAN'T WE DO MORE THAN 22 THIS YEAR? I JUST I DON'T BELIEVE OUR STAFF WOULD FAIL. I REALLY BELIEVE IF WE WANTED A PLAYGROUND REPLACED, WE'D GET IT DONE. THEY JUST DID THIS SEWER EMERGENCY THING. THEY THEY JUST ORDERED REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT FOR ANOTHER PARK. SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE SETTING ANYONE UP TO FAIL. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO RESIDENTS AND TRY AND ACCOMPLISH THINGS THAT WILL IMPROVE THEIR LIVES. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? STILL? SURE. I MEAN, WE. IT'S NOT. TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT A ONE TIME DECISION THAT WE MAKE. WE GO AND REVISIT THIS. WE GET THIS. NICK SAT DOWN WITH ME AND I SPENT HOURS TALKING WITH HIM ON THIS ITEM. THIS WAS BACK IN DECEMBER, SO HE KIND OF DIRECTED US A LONG TIME AGO OF HERE'S THE INFORMATION. SO IT WASN'T LIKE IT SHOWED UP ON LITERALLY AT THE 11TH HOUR. IT'S MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE COMPLEX PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING AND BEING DONE AND THAT REQUIRE A GOOD AMOUNT OF EXPERTISE TO UNDERSTAND THEIR COMPLEXITY. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, AND I SAY THIS AS AN ENGINEER WITH TWO DEGREES, BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING TITLE, AND I HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THIS FOR TWO DECADES. NICK AND I HAVEN'T BEEN DOING IT AT THE CITY LEVEL. I'VE BEEN DOING IT IN MANUFACTURING, OTHER THINGS, AEROSPACE, BUT AND SOFTWARE. BUT THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE AND IT TAKES A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME TO DIGEST ALL THIS STUFF. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MAYBE AN HOUR OR TWO. I LIKE I SAID, I MAYBE TENS OF HOURS I'VE BEEN GOING OVER THIS AND I'M LOOKING AT THE FIRST PRESENTATION NICK GAVE ME BACK IN APRIL 2020. APRIL 2024 WITH THE CYPRESS CITIZENS ACADEMY. AND SO AND THIS IS MULTIPLE TIMES WE'VE GONE OUT TO THE YARD AND TOURED AND CRAWLED AROUND THE MIRROR, PUMP STATIONS AND SO FORTH ON MY BELLY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. SO IT IS A LOT OF PROJECTS I WOULD SAY THAT THE DIRECTORS ARE WORKING ON, AND IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THEM, I AGREE IT IS COMPLEX TO CHANGE AND SO TO DO IT HERE IN A NICE AIR CONDITIONED OFFICE WHERE WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT NUMBERS AND MOVE THINGS AROUND, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE MINIMIZING THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT IS REALLY REQUIRED TO GO AHEAD AND DO THESE RATHER COMPLEX PROJECTS, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HESITANT TO GOING AHEAD AND SAY, LET'S CHANGE THE PROCESS HERE. AFTER A FIVE, TEN, 20 MINUTE DISCUSSION WHEN WE KNOW WE HAD TIME DURING THE STRAT PLAN, WE KNOW WE HAD TIME TO GO AHEAD AND REACH OUT TO THE DIRECTORS AND, AND, AND DO RIDE ALONGS AND GET THE INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME. AND WE ALSO HAVE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE WHO ARE DOING THIS. AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEIR OPINIONS TOO. AND WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER, I DIDN'T HEAR REALLY MUCH QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE TOPICS. PEOPLE WOULDN'T COME IN AND DISCUSS THEM DURING THE COMMISSIONER MEETING, SO I'M HESITANT TO. THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION. WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE MOTIONING THIS FOR? WHAT ARE WE OPENING UP? ARE WE OPENING UP PANDORA'S BOX? WE'RE NOW WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SECOND GUESS OUR DIRECTORS AND CHANGE THINGS ON THE FLY. THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO I'M I'M ON THE SAME PAGE AS THE MAYOR PRO TEM. MY THOUGHT IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL COME BACK WITH. I THINK AT THE TIME WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT A TIMELINE, WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MISS THE CIP APPROVAL PROCESS, BUT IF WE NEEDED TO INSERT SOMETHING OR CHOSE TO INSERT SOMETHING, WE COULD DO THAT. WE WOULD JUST DO TRADES AND I'M OKAY WITH THE TRADES. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WHEN I'LL CALL PUBLIC WORKS AND IN RCS DOES THE CIP, THEY KNOW BETTER BIGGER, BROADER PICTURE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY. SO THEY COME UP WITH THAT BASED ON AS AMOUNT OF RESOURCES AND WHAT THEY CAN DO.

SO I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. SO I THINK I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION. I'D LIKE TO SAY LET'S APPROVE THE CIP AS IS AS PROPOSED AS A SIDE COMMENT, NOT AS PART OF THE MOTION. AS A SIDE COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO SAY, AND LET'S THINK ABOUT WHEN THE COMMISSIONERS COME IN AND WHAT THEY WANT TO PROPOSE. TAKE A LOOK THEN AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE REALLY LIKE THAT. LET'S PULL THAT INTO THE SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR. WE'LL HAVE THE PROCESS AND THEN MAYBE IT'S DELAYING, LET'S JUST SAY TWO ITEMS. THAT FREES UP AN ENGINEER. AND WE CAN DO THAT, AT LEAST BACK TO WHAT MAYOR MEDRANO WAS TRYING TO DO. MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO WAS TRYING TO DO WAS JUST TRY TO FOLLOW SOME PROCESS AND CONSIDERATION. AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ADDING THE PARKS. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, ESPECIALLY AS WE ALL LOOKED AT KIND OF THE AGE I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FOLLOW KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION PROCESS AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN FIT

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AND POSSIBLY MOVE SOME THINGS. SO MY MOTION IS, IS TO APPROVE THE CIP. MY RECOMMENDED MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE CIP AS IS AT THIS POINT, AS PROPOSED BY STAFF. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN? I WANT TO I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO COMMENT WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. NICK, I'M SORRY. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS CAME UP WITH AN IDEA ON HOW TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS BACK ON MAY 12TH, AND WE KIND OF LOOKED OVER THAT. WE SAID, NICK, WORK FASTER, BUT WHEN HE GAVE US A RECOMMENDATION, WE KIND OF LOOKED THE OTHER WAY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M KIND OF A LITTLE BIT HESITANT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING. HE DID IT. WE DIDN'T LISTEN. I WAS IN HIS OFFICE ON HIS BIRTHDAY AND I REALIZED, OH YEAH, WE DIDN'T LISTEN. SHAME ON ME. AND SO THAT'S WHY AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, I SAID, LET'S GO AHEAD AND EXAMINE WAYS TO STREAMLINE THE APPROVAL PROCESS SO WE CAN FREE UP MAN HOURS. I'M SORRY. PERSONNEL HOURS, AND HAVE ENGINEERS WORKING ON THINGS SO THAT THINGS CAN MOVE FASTER THROUGH CIP PROJECT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING WITH THE PILOT, PILOT PROGRAM OR PILOT PROJECT EARLIER THAT I MENTIONED. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. ONE QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE BROWN ACT FOR THE WAY THIS ITEM IS AGENDIZED. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, YOUR YOUR MOTION WANTS TO BE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF NOT MAKE ANY TO RECEIVE THE REPORT, NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE CIP THAT WILL BE RECOMMENDED TO YOU ON JUNE 9TH.

ISN'T THAT WHAT I SAID? OKAY, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO I'M GOING TO HOLD OFF BECAUSE I'VE GOT ANOTHER ITEM I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS. OKAY, WELL, YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOU'VE GOT TO RESOLVE THAT. OKAY, WELL, THEN I'LL MAKE A STANDING SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND I WILL DISCUSS THAT SHORTLY. BUT I, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW, MR. CITY ATTORNEY. I CAN'T CONTINUE DISCUSSING CIP PROJECTS. SO THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR TO RECEIVE THE REPORT OF AS CURRENTLY PRESENTED WITHOUT INSERTING YOUR PROPOSED ADOPTION RECOMMENDATION. SO THE PROTOCOL WOULD BE TO VOTE ON THE SECOND MOTION FIRST. IF IT PASSES THE FIRST MOTION, THE MAIN MOTION BECOMES MOOT. IF THAT MOTION FAILS, THEN THEY VOTE ON YOUR MOTION. WELL, CAN I ASK COUNCIL MEMBER PETE TO HOLD OFF SO I CAN BRING UP ANOTHER ITEM? YEAH. LET ME LET ME ASK FOR CLARITY.

DIDN'T YOU MAKE A MOTION BEFORE TO ADD THAT TO THAT AND THEN APPROVE THE CIP? THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISUNDERSTOOD, MAYOR, THAT YOU WERE SAYING APPROVED THIS BY ADDING THIS ADDITIONAL CIP ITEM AGAIN. SO I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD. JUST ADD THIS.

YOU'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE THE CIP TONIGHT. IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT PURPOSE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE YOU'RE ADOPTING THE RECOMMENDATION. AND AS I UNDERSTAND, THE MAYOR'S MOTION IS YOU'RE ADOPTING THE RECOMMENDATION. BUT ADDING TO THAT RECOMMENDATION. PARK PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. SO MY MOTION CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT I SAID, BUT IT WASN'T TO ADOPT THE CIP. IT WAS TO ADD IN MOVING. IT WAS JUST TO MOVE UP THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. SO I GUESS THAT'S THE MOTION THAT WAS ON THE TABLE. AND I THAT'S THE MAIN MOTION. WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. IF YOU'RE READY TO VOTE ON THE MOTIONS, YOU'LL VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION FIRST AND THE MAIN MOTION SECOND. OKAY. CAN I ASK YOU TO HOLD OFF ON THAT FOR NOW? OKAY. I REMOVE MY MOTION UNTIL THE DISCUSSION IS CAN I REMOVE THE MOTION? WE CAN JUST DELAY VOTING ON THE MOTIONS UNTIL ALL DELIBERATIONS ON ALL ASPECTS OF THE CIP HAVE BEEN FULLY AIRED BY ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG. YEAH. BEFORE YOU GUYS DECIDE ON THE PARKS. HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT 2026, 2027 VERSUS WAITING UNTIL 2027, 2028? IS THAT ON? I MEAN, IT GIVES THE CITY STAFF A YEAR TO MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT THEY NEED TO. IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY STAFF COULD POSSIBLY DO BECAUSE I, I DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE UP THE CITY PARKS. BUT I REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT MAKING IT THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, SURE, IN A FEW MONTHS. I UNDERSTAND THOSE RESERVATIONS. I THINK THAT'S SORT OF DIRECTED AT MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO, COUNCIL MEMBER PETE AND COUNCIL MEMBER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND, BUT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG SUGGESTION IS, WOULD YOU BE MORE COMFORTABLE

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MOVING THIS UP ONE YEAR RATHER THAN TWO? AND I GUESS I, I THE THING I LIKE ABOUT AT LEAST CONSIDERING IT AT THIS TIME IS THE PLANNING AND THE PROCESS, AND THE CITY STAFF CAN LOOK AT IT. NICK CAN CAN LOOK AT IT FROM THE HOURS AND THE RESOURCES AND SAYING, OKAY, I'VE GOT THAT DONE AND THIS YEAR AND THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO NEXT YEAR SO HE CAN BE MORE PLANFUL IF YOU WANT TO SAY, IN PUTTING IT INTO HIS OVERALL CIP PLAN. SO YES, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING IT THIS YEAR. IT'S JUST THAT WE'D HAVE TO SHIFT SOME OTHER THINGS AROUND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT. SO IF WE CAN BE MORE PLANFUL AND DO IT IN NEXT YEAR, YES, I AM OPEN FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'D LIKE TO GET THE OPINION OF THE DIRECTOR, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ON THAT. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S HOW WE BUDGET THE CIP. RIGHT. SO THAT'S PERFECTLY CONSISTENT WITH DIRECTION THAT WE GET AT THE WORKSHOP OR MID-YEAR. AND WHAT YOU'D WIND UP SEEING THIS TIME NEXT YEAR IS A FIRST YEAR CIP THAT HAD A PLAYGROUND PROJECT IN IT, AND PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY LISTED IN YEAR TWO OF THE CIP IN YEAR TWO, THAT'S WHAT WOULD NOW BECOME YEAR ONE OF THE CIP. THAT'S THE KIND OF DIRECTION THAT LETS US, AND I HADN'T HEARD THE TERM BEFORE, BUT BE PLANFUL AS WE PUT THESE TOGETHER. AND THEN AS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR BOTH THE MAYOR'S MOTION, SHOULD IT BE VOTED ON AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG'S IDEA, SHOULD IT BECOME A MOTION, IS THE IDEA JUST TO MOVE THAT FIRST PARK PROJECT FORWARD FROM 2728 INTO A FUTURE FISCAL YEAR, OR TO MOVE THEM ALL FORWARD? AND WE JUST NEED YOU TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT FOR US. MY I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL. SAME. ALL OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE CAN DO WE HAVE A THIRD MOTION BECAUSE IF WE DO HAVE AN IDEA OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HELP US. I'VE GOT ONE MORE ITEM I WANTED TO DISCUSS. AND YOU'RE GOING TO HELP US NAVIGATE THIS MORASS I WILL. SO JUST JUST AS A PROCEDURAL MATTER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, THE WAY YOU END DEBATE IS TO MOVE THE PREVIOUS QUESTION. SOME MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL HAS TO GET THE FLOOR, MOVE THE PREVIOUS QUESTION THAT ENDS ALL DEBATE.

YOU IMMEDIATELY VOTE ON THAT. IF THAT VOTE PASSES, ALL DELIBERATIONS ARE AT END AND YOU VOTE ON THE MOTIONS IN THE ORDER. SUBSTITUTE MOTION FIRST, MAIN MOTION SECOND. NO ONE'S MADE THAT MOTION YET. SO RIGHT NOW, DEBATE IS STILL WIDE OPEN, AND I CAN BRING UP SOMETHING ELSE. YOU CAN DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO BRING UP, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS. CIP LEVEL OR NOT, GOT MORE PHOTOS. GOING TO HAVE TO GET MORE INK FOR MY COLOR PRINTER. ALL RIGHT. SO. THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS SUMNER PLACE, WHICH IS A STREET IN THE NORTHERN PART OF CYPRUS. AND. I'LL DESCRIBE THE ISSUE TO RESIDENTS WHO AREN'T AWARE OF THIS, THIS STREET ON ONE SIDE BORDERS FOREST LAWN. ON THE OTHER SIDE IT'S RESIDENCES, THE SIDE THAT BORDERS FOREST LAWN HAS BECOME A DUMPING GROUND FOR FURNITURE, TRASH, ETC. I USED TO DRIVE DOWN THERE EVERY DAY, EVERY WEEKDAY. YOU'D SEE COUCHES AND REFRIGERATORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. A COUPLE RESIDENTS REACHED OUT TO ME RECENTLY AND TOLD ME IT WAS PARTICULARLY ROUGH, SO I WENT OVER THERE ONE DAY AND THERE WAS A COUCH, A MATTRESS, A TIRE, PART OF A TABLE, MULTIPLE PIECES OF FURNITURE, BOXES, GARBAGE, ETC.

THE DAY I WENT THERE IS WORSE THAN NORMAL, BUT IT'S NOT TOTALLY OUT OF THE ORDINARY. AND THIS IS A CHALLENGING ISSUE. I THINK IT'S RESOURCE INTENSIVE. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM GENERALLY GOES OVER THERE TWICE A WEEK TO PICK UP ITEMS. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT THE IDEAL SOLUTION TO HAVE KIND OF DUMPING GROUND IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE OUR STAFF REPEATEDLY GOING OVER THERE TO PICK THINGS UP. I'D LIKE TO SEE US WORK TOWARD SOME TYPE OF LONG TERM SOLUTION, AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS. I HAD A

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CALL WITH NICK AND PETE, AND THEY WERE HELPFUL IN THERE, DOING SOME RESEARCH FOR ME TO PROVIDE SOME INITIAL INFORMATION ABOUT JUST OWNERSHIP OF THE AREA, WHICH CAN HELP INFORM US AND WHAT WE WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DEVOTE SOME ENERGY AND THOUGHTS AND RESOURCES TO TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T ADDRESS THE ISSUE COMPLETELY THIS YEAR, AT LEAST WE MAKE SOME MEANINGFUL PROGRESS, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW WE ALL FEEL ABOUT CYPRUS AND THE WAY WE WANT IT TO LOOK. NO ONE CAN LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, THIS IS ACCEPTABLE AND THIS IS HOW WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOOK. NO ONE COULD DRIVE DOWN THAT STREET AND SAY, THIS IS GOOD FOR PROPERTY VALUES OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. SO RIGHT NOW WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PLAN THAT I'M AWARE OF TO WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THIS? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE ANSWER IS BUDGETING SOME MONEY IN THE CIP OR SIMPLY COMMITTING TO STAFF PROVIDING A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF THE ISSUE AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS WITHIN A, YOU KNOW, A FEW MONTHS AT A COUNCIL MEETING. BUT I, I REALLY WANT US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE PROGRESS HERE. AND, AND I DON'T THINK RESIDENTS EXPECT US TO NECESSARILY HAVE A PERFECT ANSWER, BUT THEY CERTAINLY EXPECT US TO TRY AND TO NOT JUST KIND OF KNOW THAT THIS IS HAPPENING AND NOT AND NOT TAKE MORE PROACTIVE STEPS ABOUT IT. SO MY MAIN, I GUESS, QUESTION WOULD BE FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR OR CITY MANAGER. THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT SUMNER OR ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE IN THE CIP. I DO NOT WANT THAT TO HOLD US BACK FROM TAKING STEPS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND TRY AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND TRY AND LEARN MORE AND FIGURE IT OUT. SO MY QUESTION FOR STAFF IS HOW CAN WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND SO THAT WE CAN TAKE STEPS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS PROBLEM AND, AND THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO AND THAT IF WE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, WE'LL HAVE THE RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT IT. WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND, WHETHER IT'S PART OF THE CIP OR A SEPARATE THING? I JUST I'M CURIOUS WHERE WE CAN GO FROM HERE. SO BY WAY OF SOME ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND, IN ADDITION TO BIWEEKLY PUBLIC WORKS CLEANUPS, WE'VE DEDICATED LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES OUT THERE TRYING TO CATCH AND DETER DUMPERS AND LITTERERS. AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT THE ISSUE IS, RIGHT? I POSITIVE IT'S NO ONE FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT FOLKS ARE DRIVING DOWN THAT STREET BECAUSE IT IS REASONABLY QUIET, AND IT IS REASONABLY CLOSE TO A FAIRLY BUSY STREET IN CRESCENT, AND THEY'RE PUSHING JUNK OUT OF THE BACK OF THEIR PICKUP TRUCK. AND WHAT HAVE YOU ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET AS IT BORDERS FOREST LAWN. AND WE HAVE PUT UP ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE. WE HAVE DEPLOYED POLICE DEPARTMENT RESOURCES TRYING TO CATCH THOSE FOLKS, AND NONE OF IT HAS HAD A LONG TERM DETERRENT EFFECT. THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IS UNCLEAR. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITY ELEMENTS IN THE GROUND THERE. AND ONCE UPON A TIME WE THOUGHT CURB, GUTTER, SIDEWALK WAS THE SOLUTION AND HAVE SORT OF COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT ALL THAT DOES IS CREATE A MORE STABLE PLACE TO DUMP YOUR COUCH OR MATTRESS OR CHAIRS. THE LEVEL OF EFFORT TO ADDRESS THIS SORT OF ON A PERMANENT BASIS, I THINK, RISES TO A STRATEGIC PLAN LEVEL. BUT TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, IF IT'S BECOMING MORE ACUTE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY BE OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS, WELL, REALLY GOOD AND REALLY RIGOROUS ALSO ONLY HAPPENS TWICE A YEAR. SO IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL, PROBABLY IN A WORKSHOP WITH SORT OF A WE DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT A BOX. YOU KNOW, HERE ARE ALL THE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS THAT COULD HAPPEN OUT THERE, FROM BUILDING SOMETHING TO PLANTING SOMETHING, TO CHANGING THE WAY THE STREETS WORK. I KNOW THAT CCTV AND MORE LIGHTING IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SOLUTION FOR IT. THAT'S A MAJOR UNDERTAKING AS A THOUGHT EXERCISE, AND THEN WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE A MAJOR UNDERTAKING FOR A PROJECT. AND IS A LOT OF THE DEBATE TONIGHT HAS INVOLVED. IT BECOMES IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO DELIVER ON OUR COMMITMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY AND FUNCTION WITH DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS, WHEN THERE ARE NO CONSTRAINT ON THE NUMBER OF THINGS WE TELL THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE CAN DO FOR

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THEM. SO HAVING SAID THAT, IF THIS CAME FORWARD AND THE RIGHT SOLUTION WAS A FAIRLY BIG CIP PROJECT, CITY CERTAINLY HAS THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES FOR IT, AND WE'D BE IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT, HEY, THIS IS WE THINK, YOU KNOW, BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION, THIS LEVEL OF PRIORITY, BECAUSE IT'S DIRECTLY IMPACTING NOT THAT MANY RESIDENTS, BUT THE IMPACT ON THOSE RESIDENTS IS OBVIOUSLY VERY SEVERE BASED ON THESE PICTURES. AND SO THEN THEN YOU GUYS WORK YOUR MAGIC AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO PRIORITIZE THAT. FOR US, THESE THE BUDGET, THE CIP, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THESE ARE PLANNING DOCUMENTS. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE SPEND TIME, ENERGY AND EFFORT THINKING ABOUT AND WE HOPE TO STICK TO AND DELIVER THEM IN THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. THE ONE THING WE KNOW IS THAT MAN PLANS AND GOD LAUGHS. AND YOU SEE IT. ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE HAVE EMERGENCY FILL IN THE BLANK REPAIRS. THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S RISING TO THE LEVEL OF EMERGENCY NEIGHBORHOOD INTERVENTION FIX. AND IF THAT BECAME A CIP PROJECT, I THINK YOU'D SEE NICK AND I COME IN HERE AND SAY WE HAVE TO BUILD THINGAMABOB AND TO BUILD THINGAMABOB. WE'VE GOT A PROJECT THAT'S GOT TO WAIT. AND YOU WOULD TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION UNDER ADVISEMENT.

SO BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF HEAD NODDING I'M SEEING HERE, I FEEL LIKE I'VE GOT SUFFICIENT DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO TAKE SOME ENERGY FROM NICK AND FROM PD, MAYBE EVEN FROM PLANNING. SO I DON'T LEAVE OUT ANY OF THE ALICIA'S AND COME BACK WITH SOME IDEAS ON WHAT WOULD WORK HERE. AND WHEN WE TRY TO SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE THIS IN THE COMMUNITY, OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS THE LOWEST LEVEL OF EFFECTIVE INTERVENTION. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ON THE PHONE THE OTHER DAY, I SAID TO THE MAYOR, WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE COULD DO IS JUST CLOSE SUMNER CRESCENT, SO YOU CAN'T TURN DOWN IT. LIKE THAT WOULD SOLVE THE DUMPING PROBLEM, BUT IT WOULD HAVE THESE KNOCK ON EFFECTS ON TRAFFIC FLOW ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW IT LIVES, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT AN IDEA THAT YOU WOULDN'T PURSUE, BUT THAT WOULD BE A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING. AND MAYBE, HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOMETHING MUCH SIMPLER THAN THAT. MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE, EQUALLY EFFECTIVE THAT WE COULD MATERIALIZE QUICKLY. BUT WE'LL WE'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE UNIVERSE OF OPTIONS. AND ON WHICHEVER ONE THE COUNCIL LANDS, IF IT REMAINS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR YOU, WE'LL BUILD IT INTO YOUR BUDGET OR SHOW YOU HOW TO BUILD IT INTO YOUR BUDGET, YOU HOW TO BUILD IT INTO YOUR CIP AND DELIVER IT FROM THERE. THANK YOU. AND WE DON'T EXPECT, OR I DON'T THINK YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT BY JUNE 9TH. RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. AND THIS ISN'T EVEN SOMETHING I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU PUT IN JUNE 10TH, THANKS TO YOUR ATTORNEY, ALSO A RESIDENT. SO NOT EVEN SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO PUT RESOURCES INTO THE BUDGET FOR BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHAT THE SCALE OF THE SOLUTION MIGHT BE, BUT IT'S ONE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO EFFECT. THE BIGGEST REORGANIZATION ISSUE THAT MIGHT PRESENT ITSELF FOR YOU, IF IT WERE TO BECOME A CONSTRUCTION LEVEL. CIP IS, HEY, WE NEED TO MOVE IT AHEAD OF ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO GET DEFERRED, BUT WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THAT TO HAVE YOU DO ANYTHING WITH IT. NOW WE'RE THE WE'RE IN THE VERY PRELIMINARY STAGE COUNCIL MEMBER. SO YEAH, I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE WORKSHOP ACTUALLY PRODUCES. AND FOR THE RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY THAT DON'T KNOW, THIS SUMMER IS JUST ONE PLACE OF A COUPLE IN THE CITY. THERE ARE ALLEYWAYS EAST OF THE COLLEGE THAT HAVE THIS VERY SAME PROBLEM. SO IT'S NOT UNIQUE JUST TO SUMNER PLACE. FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE. I'VE SEEN THIS COUNTLESS TIMES IN MY LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE FACE IS THAT ONCE A DUMPING GROUND HAS BEEN KIND OF ESTABLISHED, WORD SPREADS THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORING CITIES, AND THEY KNOW IT'S A SAFE PLACE TO DUMP, RIGHT? REGARDLESS OF THE SIGNAGE, REGARDLESS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S EFFORTS, REGARDLESS OF ANY TYPE OF INTERVENTION, WE HAVE. EXCUSE ME. I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS CAN BE FIXED AND SOLVED, BUT I ALSO HOPE THAT IT CAN BE FIXED AND SOLVED IN IN ALL THE PLACES IN THE CITY. THAT'S MY THAT'S MY BIGGER CONCERN. IT HAS A LASTING EFFECT. I, I KNOW WHAT THE RESIDENTS FEEL BECAUSE I'VE HAD THOUSANDS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN MY LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER ABOUT THIS. TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, IT DOES DEGRADE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S THE BROKEN WINDOW THEORY, RIGHT? IF A NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS UNKEMPT, IT OPENS IT UP FOR CRIME, IT OPENS IT UP FOR DUMPING, SO FORTH AND SO ON. SO AGAIN, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORKSHOP AND I THINK I'M GOING TO DELVE INTO IT AS WELL FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND SEE IF I CAN'T REACH OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR SOME SOLUTIONS AS WELL. WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THERE'S

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SOME TRIED AND TRUE METHOD THAT THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL. SO THANK YOU.

YEAH. WELL THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER I THINK I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO, RIGHT. PUT EVERYONE'S HEADS TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. AND SO I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE IS CAN WE HAVE SOME SORT OF TIMELINE POTENTIALLY ON WHEN WE CAN REVISIT THIS AND GO THROUGH THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS? IS IT OKAY IF I HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO NICK AND MARK ABOUT IT AND CLOSE THE LOOP AT THE CITY COUNCIL OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THAT WAS THE OTHER ITEM I HAD. I THINK THAT BRINGS US BACK TO OUR THREE COMPETING MOTIONS POTENTIALLY. SO I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE THIRD MOTION IS. WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG WAS. SO MAKE YOUR MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER GOLDILOCKS ING IT. BUT WE'LL AND IF HE MADE A MOTION I DIDN'T HEAR A SECOND. OKAY, SO WHY DON'T YOU WALK US THROUGH? I MADE THE MOTION TO INCLUDE IT IN THE THIS YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR. THAT WAS SECONDED. RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER PETE MAYBE MADE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. ALTHOUGH YOU ADVISE THAT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY MOVING TO PASS THE CIP NOW. SO THAT'S MAYBE NOT. SO BOTH OF YOUR MOTIONS HAVE TO BE RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. SO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE THE REPORT ON THE CIP. BUT TO MOVE UP INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT, THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WAS TO RECEIVE THE CIP, BUT NOT TO MOVE UP. PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE THIRD MOTION WAS. OKAY AND SO WELL. AND I PROMISE, FOLKS, I THINK WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THIS. AND LOOK, WE ALL ARE ON BOARD WITH RECEIVING THE CIP.

I'M CONFIDENT ABOUT THAT. I THINK THE LAST ISSUE WAS COUNCIL MEMBER CHANG AND MAYBE SUGGESTED MOVING IT UP ONE YEAR. COUNCIL MEMBER PETE, I THINK YOU WERE KIND OF SUGGESTING KEEPING IT AS IS, BUT GIVING US THE I DON'T KNOW, JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING SOMETHING AFTER THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE PROCESS. BUT I WANT TO LET YOU SPEAK TO WHAT YOU WERE THINKING AND SEE SEE WHAT DISTANCE THERE IS BETWEEN YOU TWO, IF ANY. YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S DISTANCE PRETTY MUCH AT ALL. I'M SAYING GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT UP TO 27. JUST RECOGNIZE WHEN THEY DO THEIR PLAN THAT WE MOVED IT UP AND WE MOVED ALL OF THEM UP A YEAR, THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR OVERALL CIP FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO. SO YEAH, SO IS IT A I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO. OKAY. WELL IT'S A MODIFIED SUBSTITUTE MOTION. YEAH I ACCEPT THAT. AND IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MODIFICATION I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. NOW ARE WE READY TO VOTE OKAY THEN WE WILL NOW VOTE ON THE MODIFIED SUBSTITUTE MOTION FIRST.

THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY OKAY. THAT RENDERS THE MAIN MOTION MOOT, AND WE'RE READY TO

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MOVE ON, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. SECOND ORAL COMMUNICATIONS PERIOD, PAUL KOKKINOS, FOLLOWED BY BOB YOUNGSMA.

PAUL KOKKINOS, LONGTIME CYPRUS RESIDENT. BEFORE I START WITH WHAT I PREPARED, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE ALL OF YOU UP ON THE DIAS FOR THAT LAST LITTLE EXAMPLE OF HOW THINGS SHOULD WORK. THAT WAS AWESOME. JUST MEET YOU GUYS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, PLEASE DON'T FORGET THE CONCERNS RAISED AND THEN INTENSIFIED OVER THE LAST FEW COUNCIL MEETINGS.

ABSOLUTELY. DO NOT FORGET THE ONGOING COVER UP PLEASE. AGENDIZE. AGAIN, A REQUEST FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE ALL REPORTS AND ANY OTHER PERTINENT INFORMATION REGARDING THE PREVIOUSLY SECRET $183,000 SEPARATION AGREEMENT WITH FORMER CITY MANAGER DOUG DANKS. MR. DANKS, HIS COMMENTS REGARDING THE CITY MANAGER CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT BE KEPT A SECRET FROM THE EXISTING COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF CYPRUS, OF THE FINE CITY OF CYPRUS. TOO MUCH IS AT STAKE. THE RESIDENTS OF CYPRUS DESERVE THE ABSOLUTE BEST IN CITY MANAGEMENT. WE PAY

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